Evolution question.

[CrusaderFrank]

No, I gave an example of selection.

No you didn't. You said "laws of physics" then pointed to gravity as the agent binding molecules into proteins and proteins into cells

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No you didn't. You said "laws of physics" then pointed to gravity as the agent binding molecules into proteins and proteins into cells

A bizarre lie. I pointed to selection "selecting for" the spheroidical shape of massive objects.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A bizarre lie. I pointed to selection "selecting for" the spheroidical shape of massive objects.

What force of nature does this imaginary "selecting" It's gravity, right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What force of nature does this imaginary "selecting" It's gravity, right?

Loaded question ignored. Frank, you have a lot of catching up to do before asking questions of educated people.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Loaded question ignored. Frank, you have a lot of catching up to do before asking questions of educated people.

Odd, it's as if you know your answers just don't make any sense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Odd, it's as if you know your answers just don't make any sense.

*To people abjectly ignorant of the topic

 

[CrusaderFrank]

*To people abjectly ignorant of the topic

^ Ignoring the life raft I'm tossing...keep flailing about "selection" and "randomness"

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

^ Ignoring the life raft I'm tossing...keep flailing about "selection" and "randomness"

In other words, you don't understand these concepts. But that is somehow everyone else's fault.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In other words, you don't understand these concepts. But that is somehow everyone else's fault.

I understand your explanations are just a reflexive reaction to the idea that we are in a Creation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I understand your explanations are just a reflexive reaction to the idea that we are in a Creation.

No, because there could still be creation. Magical gods could still have created the universe, even if everything I say is true. Or maybe it was leprechauns.

So as usual your accusations are more true of yourself than of anyone else. You are responding reflexively and vapidly, because you erroneously think someone is arguing agavalidly, fetish idea of creation. When they are not.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, because there could still be creation. Magical gods could still have created the universe, even if everything I say is true. Or maybe it was leprechauns.

So as usual your accusations are more true of yourself than of anyone else. You are responding reflexively and vapidly, because you erroneously think someone is arguing agavalidly, fetish idea of creation. When they are not.

See? Your mockery makes you look and sound foolish.

It's all random is a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY and couple that with the self awareness, well IMPOSSIBLE SQUARED.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

See? Your mockery makes you look and sound foolish.

It's all random is a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY and couple that with the self awareness, well IMPOSSIBLE SQUARED.

What a goofy word salad.

Selection is not random. Tantrums won't help you.

 

[scruffy]

It is mathematically impossible for random events to have created the first cell.

Horseshit.

Where did you hear anything so amazingly stupid?

 

[scruffy]

NO! That would be random. You said there is a "Selection" process, who is doing the selecting? Random, inorganic molecules and proteins do not make selections

Oh look, another rocket scientist.

 

[scruffy]

See? Your mockery makes you look and sound foolish.

It's all random is a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY and couple that with the self awareness, well IMPOSSIBLE SQUARED.

You sound exactly like one of those dumbass leftards in the other thread.

You obviously don't know anything, so why don't you just read and absorb instead of making unsupportable statements?

There's at least three people here that know what they're talking about. How about you listen to them?

You might try reading the rest of the thread, the "mathematical impossibility" bit has already been blown out of the water.

 

[toobfreak]

If the cornerstone of evolution is the extinction of species with 'undesirable traits'

A better way of thinking of it is that successful traits are those better adapted to the changing environment so you have a matrix of two variables: both random mutations and the changing planet, so, traits conducive to succeeding tend to survive and go on while traits contrary to better success tend to cancel out.

why do we go out of our way to save people who have these traits?

Because we are idiots. Guilty liberals tends to see changes to the planet which we may contribute to as being "unnatural" so try to "fix" it by "saving" them. I suppose the good in that is if we can save a plant or a species artificially, at least they are around to study and learn from.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You sound exactly like one of those dumbass leftards in the other thread.

You obviously don't know anything, so why don't you just read and absorb instead of making unsupportable statements?

There's at least three people here that know what they're talking about. How about you listen to them?

You might try reading the rest of the thread, the "mathematical impossibility" bit has already been blown out of the water.

We’re talking about the impossibility of random events making life. Nothing anyone said here “blows that out of the water”

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Horseshit.

Where did you hear anything so amazingly stupid?

walk me through the random process by which molecules make proteins which then randomly assemble themselves into fully functional cells.

If it’s random, it’s like a poker game for no money where 7 2 is as good a hand as pocket Aces.

 

[scruffy]

We’re talking about the impossibility of random events making life.

Then you're talking wild leftard fantasy.

Nothing anyone said here “blows that out of the water”

Indeed it does.

You're not ready to find out why, you don't know enough.

 

[scruffy]

walk me through the random process by which molecules make proteins which then randomly assemble themselves into fully functional cells.

If it’s random, it’s like a poker game for no money where 7 2 is as good a hand as pocket Aces.

Dude - read the fucking thread.

No, I'm not going to give you an education for free. Go to school for 12 years like I did.