EVs are not selling well. Dealers are upset

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People also ask


Where does the hydrogen to fuel cars come from?


Hydrogen can be produced from a variety of domestic resources, such as natural gas, nuclear power, biomass, and renewable power like solar and wind. These qualities make it an attractive fuel option for transportation and electricity generation applications.

Hydrogen Fuel Basics | Department of Energy​

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I believe primarily from natural gas.

 

[Robert W]

Hydrogen transfers energy. You have to use electricity to get it, so how does that work for you?

People also ask


Where does the hydrogen to fuel cars come from?


Hydrogen can be produced from a variety of domestic resources, such as natural gas, nuclear power, biomass, and renewable power like solar and wind. These qualities make it an attractive fuel option for transportation and electricity generation applications.

Hydrogen Fuel Basics | Department of Energy​

energy.gov

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Hydrogen is far better. And it is also EV. And you lied about me.

Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Cars | DriveClean

Electric cars that run solely on hydrogen stored in a reinforced tank inside the car. Get an in-depth overview of the benefits of hydrogen fuel cells, the monetary rebates and the additional incentives available. Find out how the technology works, what the typical costs are and how quick they...

driveclean.ca.gov

Why haven't hydrogen powered vehicles been produced and sold?

There is no infrastructure to support them is the primary reason. If I gave you a car today powered by hydrogen only, could you use it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

People also ask


Where does the hydrogen to fuel cars come from?


Hydrogen can be produced from a variety of domestic resources, such as natural gas, nuclear power, biomass, and renewable power like solar and wind. These qualities make it an attractive fuel option for transportation and electricity generation applications.

Hydrogen Fuel Basics | Department of Energy​

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These sources will NEVER be able to supply sufficient hydrogen to replace ICE cars. That is what they will not tell you.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes and there are other problems. I think those are partly why the EV sales are slacking off. It depends on the engine in the Escalade but it takes moments to refill the tank but this is not true for the EV cars unless hydrogen is the fuel.

Where is your closest hydrogen station?

 

[leftwinger]

With an EV you are saving likely at least $100 per month on fuel, plus you have no oil changes. Put that money aside each month into a 4.50% savings account.

You need $25K min to get into those accounts.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Hydrogen cell cars are available now. And the auto manufacturers would not make them if they were not viable.

Where? Who builds them?

 

[Synthaholic]

You need $25K min to get into those accounts.

No you don't.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually, It's more than that.

I was having an interesting and in-depth conversation about EVs w/an engineer recently and he said something quite striking.

He said that right now we're thinking of cars in terms of a couple 100 thousand miles lifespan, but w/EVs wel'll be thinking about cars in terms of a few million miles lifespan." Said that we're essentially already there and it has to do w/them having fewer parts.

The batteries do not last that long, dumbass!

 

[leftwinger]

And if tomorrow Democrats all jumped on the hydrogen bandwagon you would be in here bitching tomorrow night about how the Democrats are ramming things down your throat.

This is the effect of years of propaganda fed to you.

No one needed to destroy Gas supply at 3X cost to force us to buy into EVs not for everyone.

 

[leftwinger]

No you don't.

You do at US Bank. I am not researching all 4 you.

 

[MarcATL]

The batteries do not last that long, dumbass!

There's a word called "replace."

Just how dumb are you?

 

[petro]

If you wish to have a level 2 charger, you need to have 200amp service or better.
Many older homes have 100amp service.
A level 2 charger sucks 50amps.
A cost and issue they don't tell you about.

 

[Robert W]

Where? Who builds them?

8 Vehicle Manufacturers Working on Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars | FASTECH

There are now several vehicle manufacturers using hydrogen fuel cells to power future models. We’re rounding up some of the most exciting announcements to date.

www.fastechus.com

I picked Toyota since it shows up first.

Believe it or not, Toyota has been working on fuel cell vehicles since 1992. Toyota has been steadfast in developing fuel-cell vehicles—long before many of its counterparts even considered the idea. The Toyota Mirai was among the first mass-produced hydrogen fuel cars to hit the road in 2014.

 

[leftwinger]

Americans bought more electric vehicles in the second quarter than in all of 2019. Roughly 295,000 EVs were sold between April and June 2023 — a new record. Not only is that more than 48% higher than last year, it's more EVs than were sold in all of 2019.Aug 20, 2023

Electric cars are breaking sales records, but here's why they're ...​

Probably including hybrid cars.

 

[Robert W]

If you wish to have a level 2 charger, you need to have 200amp service or better.
Many older homes have 100amp service.
A level 2 charger sucks 50amps.
A cost and issue they don't tell you about.

That and what if the driver finds out nobody recharged the car and they are in a hurry?

 

[Robert W]

There's a word called "replace."

Just how dumb are you?

If you don't mind it costing you a hell of a lot of money.

 

[leftwinger]

They will control and limit your charge based on your "Social" score. No worry abut SinthoHalic and his trips.

 

[petro]

8 Vehicle Manufacturers Working on Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars | FASTECH

There are now several vehicle manufacturers using hydrogen fuel cells to power future models. We’re rounding up some of the most exciting announcements to date.

www.fastechus.com

I picked Toyota since it shows up first.

Believe it or not, Toyota has been working on fuel cell vehicles since 1992. Toyota has been steadfast in developing fuel-cell vehicles—long before many of its counterparts even considered the idea. The Toyota Mirai was among the first mass-produced hydrogen fuel cars to hit the road in 2014.

Another link about Toyota's direction.

Here's How Toyota Could Save The Internal Combustion Engine

With a diversified approach to achieving carbon neutrality, Toyota is betting on running combustion engines on Hydrogen, but it faces some challenges

www.topspeed.com

 

[MarcATL]

If you don't mind it costing you a hell of a lot of money.

These batteries can last anywhere from 10 to 20 years, that alone surpasses the current lifespan of the average vehicle.

The cost of these batteries can range from $4K to $20K.

The tech is new at the moment, this is not bad nor unreasonable, even compared to current gas cars all things considered.

Are you a fact-based individual or a feelings, rhetoric and ideaology-based individual?