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I see you keep evading the part where you should have read your policy. If you had any questions, you should have consulted with your company HR dept.
Instead, you just assumed you had unlimited coverage for every unimaginable injury or illness. Newsflash, such policies are very rare. These are catastrophic care coverage.
The mandates are not unlimited either.
As a matter of fact, one of the ideas the GOP presented during the Obamacare negotiations was for this type coverage. The democrats refused to even consider it.
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I see you keep evading the part where you should have read your policy. If you had any questions, you should have consulted with your company HR dept.
Instead, you just assumed you had unlimited coverage for every unimaginable injury or illness. Newsflash, such policies are very rare. These are catastrophic care coverage.
The mandates are not unlimited either.
As a matter of fact, one of the ideas the GOP presented during the Obamacare negotiations was for this type coverage. The democrats refused to even consider it.
It shouldn't be my job to ready my policy.
If we aren't going to have universal health care like every other civilized country, then the onus is on the insurance companies to do what they say, not on the rest of us to be on the lookout for how they are going to cheat us.
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I see you keep evading the part where you should have read your policy. If you had any questions, you should have consulted with your company HR dept.
Instead, you just assumed you had unlimited coverage for every unimaginable injury or illness. Newsflash, such policies are very rare. These are catastrophic care coverage.
The mandates are not unlimited either.
As a matter of fact, one of the ideas the GOP presented during the Obamacare negotiations was for this type coverage. The democrats refused to even consider it.
It shouldn't be my job to ready my policy.
If we aren't going to have universal health care like every other civilized country, then the onus is on the insurance companies to do what they say, not on the rest of us to be on the lookout for how they are going to cheat us.
read this: Obamacare only covers 60%.......
how 'civilized' is that....? when they send you the bill for the 40% remaining who are you going to blame then....?
It shouldn't be my job to ready my policy.
If we aren't going to have universal health care like every other civilized country, then the onus is on the insurance companies to do what they say, not on the rest of us to be on the lookout for how they are going to cheat us.
read this: Obamacare only covers 60%.......
how 'civilized' is that....? when they send you the bill for the 40% remaining who are you going to blame then....?
I think you are confused if you think there's a policy called "ObamaCare", but I don't have time to re-educate you.
The Dems are pulling away on ACA, foreign policy, nominations, immigration, you name it.
By the end of January, the GOP will realize the USS TeaPot has sailed and sunk.
About damn time.
The Dems are pulling away on ACA, foreign policy, nominations, immigration, you name it.
By the end of January, the GOP will realize the USS TeaPot has sailed and sunk.
About damn time.
Dems are pulling away?
Last time I heard subject-specific numbers the news was about how the Dem advantage had disappeared in most areas and had shrunk where it still existed.
The Dems are pulling away on ACA, foreign policy, nominations, immigration, you name it.
By the end of January, the GOP will realize the USS TeaPot has sailed and sunk.
About damn time.
The Dems are pulling away on ACA, foreign policy, nominations, immigration, you name it.
By the end of January, the GOP will realize the USS TeaPot has sailed and sunk.
About damn time.
Employer provided insurance coverage is a "fringe benefit"...Meant to attract workers to an employer. Based on that, there is no incentive to not provide it. However, it is not an entitlement. Nor is it proper to "expect" it.Wow, you guys are delusional.
Most employer programs ALREADY meet the mandate. This is kind of what you don't get, is that unilke individual plans, the pools for employers are large enough to spread the risk around.
Now, yeah, here's the number you keep taking out of context that every year, the old plans are cancelled and they have to come up with new plans that are usually 90% the same as the old one.
I think what you guys are a bit confused about is that there is a plan called "ObamaCare" that is actually paying out money. There really isn't. It's just an expansion and mandates on existing plans.
Most employer policies already meet the requirements? Ok prove it. Second, it doesn't matter. Because once the employer mandate becomes effective, employers will begin dumping their employees insurance altogether because the fine is cheaper than insuring their employees. That is how this thing was set up. The deliberate scuttling of employer provided health insurance was the target of PPACA.
To address your last point, let's say for a moment you are correct. There is no such thing as obamacare.
I have two questions..
1. What is the $900 billion( estimated before passage then recalculated to cost three times that) for?
2.If Obamacare really is just mandates, then why is there a need for a 950 page law, 16,000 new IRS employees and a host of other new regulations and rules?
Dumbass- if that where the case, why didn't they dump their employees YEARS ago?
I mean, there's no fine now, and dumping them into nothing would be cheaper than paying the fine or insuring them. So why do they offer health care?
Well, unfortunately, because it is expected for any job that doesn't require you to ask if they want fries with that. You want to attract employees with any kind of skill, you are pretty much expected to offer health insurance. And because unlike individual market plans, they are group plans, they are more comprehensive because it is unlikely more than one person might develop a catastrophic illness.
Now, you do have a few unethical companies that found it easier to fire employees when they get sick, injured or pregnant, like the last bunch of jokers who cured my Republicanism. But really, in most of the world, companies are going to offer good insurance.
Some little fly by night company won't, but they wont be in business long, anyway.
A couple of months?....You're joking ,right?Here's the thing, Cleetus.
They are promising a service. If they can't provide the service, they shouldn't be in business.
Period.
And when the CEO of Cigna gets an 83 Million Dollar retirement bonus, but Cigna denies a 17 year old girl a liver transplant because it costs too much, then there's some serious problems with priorities.
This is where your argument dies. This government promised a service, and has so far not been able to provide it. Therefore the logical conclusion here is... wait for it... for them not to be in business within the healthcare insurance industry. The government lied to the people about this service, and if they were any other insurance company, they would be shut down and fined, not to mention the people running the outfit would be sent to jail for fraud.
The government is providing the service it promised.
The failure is on the part of the private insurers, who insisted they could comply and haven't.
Please don't try to make more out of the website than you are, because you are just going to look silly in a couple of months.
Let me see if I understand your point of view.[
No Joe,
The website will not be working in a couple of months. It is now 5 days and counting. Remember? Obama said it would be working smoothly by November 30th.
If it is not working smoothly....I pretty sure Obama will have lied again. Don't ya think?
Well, you and the rest of the Big Insurance shills will claim it isn't even if it is.
But poor people are going to have access to the system, and I know this horrifies you.
Oh yes it most certainly IS...That is defined as 'personal responsibility'...[
I see you keep evading the part where you should have read your policy. If you had any questions, you should have consulted with your company HR dept.
Instead, you just assumed you had unlimited coverage for every unimaginable injury or illness. Newsflash, such policies are very rare. These are catastrophic care coverage.
The mandates are not unlimited either.
As a matter of fact, one of the ideas the GOP presented during the Obamacare negotiations was for this type coverage. The democrats refused to even consider it.
It shouldn't be my job to ready my policy.
If we aren't going to have universal health care like every other civilized country, then the onus is on the insurance companies to do what they say, not on the rest of us to be on the lookout for how they are going to cheat us.
Oh yes it most certainly IS...That is defined as 'personal responsibility'...[
I see you keep evading the part where you should have read your policy. If you had any questions, you should have consulted with your company HR dept.
Instead, you just assumed you had unlimited coverage for every unimaginable injury or illness. Newsflash, such policies are very rare. These are catastrophic care coverage.
The mandates are not unlimited either.
As a matter of fact, one of the ideas the GOP presented during the Obamacare negotiations was for this type coverage. The democrats refused to even consider it.
It shouldn't be my job to ready my policy.
If we aren't going to have universal health care like every other civilized country, then the onus is on the insurance companies to do what they say, not on the rest of us to be on the lookout for how they are going to cheat us.
How can you live with yourself knowing you bought something about which you knew nothing?
There is no cheating. Every insurance policy whether for life, health, home, auto or financial has rules and language for the consumer to read and understand.
Not doing your due diligence is no one's fault but your own.
What makes you believe single payer is unlimited coverage?
You are nothing but a cry baby. "Woe is me", you say.
Ya know what? Nobody cares about your fucking self created problems.
All you know to do is complain.
Guy, I understand you don't have God's first fucking clue as to how group plans work.
I know you DESPERATELY need people to be in a panic about this, because, honestly, panic is all you guys have.
Joe, why don't you provide a link that disproves her statement? Obviously people are having trouble simply taking your word on this, just like Obama when he said "If you like your healthcare plan you can keep it, period." It would appear the democrats can not be trusted in providing a health care option the people want.
43% Trust GOP More on Health Care, 39% Democrats - Rasmussen Reports?
Didn't Ratmuffin have Romney winning by 7 points?
Among young people, they now trust congressional Republicans more on health care (41-46)
SOURCE: Poll: Obama Loses Young People, Now Trust GOP More on Healthcare
In an especially troubling turn, that same survey found -- even though congressional approval ratings are at an all time low -- voters trust Republicans in Congress as much or more than the President on big issues like health care and the economy.
SOURCE: John King: For Obama, a bad turn or a tipping point? - CNN.com
"As in running away from, not running away with. It's all hands to battle stations, time for the USS Tea Pot to go on the offensive" means the TeaPot is sinking and all hands are expected to go down with the ship. OK. The TeaPs can all be primaried out next year. Be better for America and certainly for GOP.
