Explaining Socialism to a Republican

[bripat9643]

Why are you leftist wealth re-distribution types so greedy? Shouldn't wealth be redistributed globally? Okay so you would only earn $3 an hour and probably have to live in a tent and poop in the woods but at least the wealth would be fairly re-distributed...right?

Any, ANY form of taxation is "wealth distribution"....and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.
Building bridges, carving out super highways, relying on dams, etc. are ALL socialistic enterprises.....Discovering new drugs by the NIH, checking out our food and water safety, are ALL socialistic enterprises.....
Calling 911 for help, funding education through real estate taxes, applying for a loan at your local bank are also ALL social enterprises.l

To be more accurate, all taxation is theft. Also, the so-called "social contract" is a myth. THere's nothing to adhere to. Bridges and highways can be privately built and have been privately built. Private companies develop most new drugs. The NIH performs no useful function. Food and water safety can also be done by private firms. Banks are private corporations, so I don't know where you get the idea that it's a "social enterprise." There are thousands of private schools in this country, so that can obviously be done without government and real estate taxes.

 

[M14 Shooter]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

 

[danielpalos]

Why are you leftist wealth re-distribution types so greedy? Shouldn't wealth be redistributed globally? Okay so you would only earn $3 an hour and probably have to live in a tent and poop in the woods but at least the wealth would be fairly re-distributed...right?

Any, ANY form of taxation is "wealth distribution"....and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.
Building bridges, carving out super highways, relying on dams, etc. are ALL socialistic enterprises.....Discovering new drugs by the NIH, checking out our food and water safety, are ALL socialistic enterprises.....
Calling 911 for help, funding education through real estate taxes, applying for a loan at your local bank are also ALL social enterprises.l

To be more accurate, all taxation is theft. Also, the so-called "social contract" is a myth. THere's nothing to adhere to. Bridges and highways can be privately built and have been privately built. Private companies develop most new drugs. The NIH performs no useful function. Food and water safety can also be done by private firms. Banks are private corporations, so I don't know where you get the idea that it's a "social enterprise." There are thousands of private schools in this country, so that can obviously be done without government and real estate taxes.

Can the right please stop appealing to Ignorance of the law as a moral and ethic in our Republic.

The social Power to Tax is delegated by the People to our elected representatives.

 

[danielpalos]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

 

[daws101]

......today's right wingers strongly defend corporate greed,,

capitalism makes greed impossible. If a company is greedy a competitor can undersell him and drive him into bankruptcy. Socialism has no such regulation.

bullshit !

 

[M14 Shooter]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

Where in the Constition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

 

[daws101]

All these posts and how many can give a textbook definition of socialism, much less name the various types?

Types of socialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[bripat9643]

Why are you leftist wealth re-distribution types so greedy? Shouldn't wealth be redistributed globally? Okay so you would only earn $3 an hour and probably have to live in a tent and poop in the woods but at least the wealth would be fairly re-distributed...right?

Any, ANY form of taxation is "wealth distribution"....and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.
Building bridges, carving out super highways, relying on dams, etc. are ALL socialistic enterprises.....Discovering new drugs by the NIH, checking out our food and water safety, are ALL socialistic enterprises.....
Calling 911 for help, funding education through real estate taxes, applying for a loan at your local bank are also ALL social enterprises.l

To be more accurate, all taxation is theft. Also, the so-called "social contract" is a myth. THere's nothing to adhere to. Bridges and highways can be privately built and have been privately built. Private companies develop most new drugs. The NIH performs no useful function. Food and water safety can also be done by private firms. Banks are private corporations, so I don't know where you get the idea that it's a "social enterprise." There are thousands of private schools in this country, so that can obviously be done without government and real estate taxes.

Can the right please stop appealing to Ignorance of the law as a moral and ethic in our Republic.

The social Power to Tax is delegated by the People to our elected representatives.

How does that prove it isn't theft?

 

[bripat9643]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

 

[daws101]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

Where in the Constition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[M14 Shooter]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Well, it is... between the states, the federal government and the people.

 

[danielpalos]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Yes, it is a written social contract.

 

[bripat9643]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

Where in the Constition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Nope, that doesn't say "I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation."

 

[bripat9643]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Well, it is... between the states, the federal government and the people.

When did I agree to this "contract?"

 

[bripat9643]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Yes, it is a written social contract.

It's written, but it's not a contract.

 

[danielpalos]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Yes, it is a written social contract.

It's written, but it's not a contract.

Yes, it is a written social Contract that was ratified by the People as that form of agreement to It.

Are you claiming that the Term the People is a collective Term that may exclude Individuals?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Yes, it is a written social contract.

It's written, but it's not a contract.

Yes, it is a written social Contract that ratified by the People.
Are you claiming that the Term the People is a collective Term that may exclude Individuals?

Where in the Constitition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

 

[danielpalos]

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Yes, it is a written social contract.

It's written, but it's not a contract.

Yes, it is a written social Contract that ratified by the People.
Are you claiming that the Term the People is a collective Term that may exclude Individuals?

Where in the Constitition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

did you know that non-sequiturs may be considered fallacies.

Yes, it is a written social Contract that was ratified by the People.
Are you claiming that the Term the People is a collective Term that may exclude Individuals?

Promoting the general welfare may entail voluntary advocacy. Providing for the general welfare merely requires appropriations.

 

[daws101]

.and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.

Where can I find a copy of this contract?

Any document declaring a form of Government will do; our own Constitution is one example.

Where in the Constition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Nope, that doesn't say "I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation."

yes it does ....
The first clause of Article I, Section 8, reads, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." This clause, called the General Welfare Clause or the Spending Power Clause, does not grant Congress the power to legislate for the general welfare of the country; that is a power reserved to the states through the Tenth Amendment. Rather, it merely allows Congress to spend federal money for the general welfare. The principle underlying this distinction—the limitation of federal power—eventually inspired the only important disagreement over the meaning of the clause.

According to James Madison, the clause authorized Congress to spend money, but only to carry out the powers and duties specifically enumerated in the subsequent clauses of Article I, Section 8, and elsewhere in the Constitution, not to meet the seemingly infinite needs of the general welfare. Alexander Hamilton maintained that the clause granted Congress the power to spend without limitation for the general welfare of the nation. The winner of this debate was not declared for 150 years.
want fires with that....
don't bother to rationalize that it does not mention individuals as the is very obviously implied.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Constitution isn't a contract.

Yes, it is a written social contract.

It's written, but it's not a contract.

Yes, it is a written social Contract that ratified by the People.
Are you claiming that the Term the People is a collective Term that may exclude Individuals?

Where in the Constitition does it say I am responsible for providing goods and services to others w/o compensation?

did you know that non-sequiturs may be considered fallacies.

Yes, it is a written social Contract that was ratified by the People.
Are you claiming that the Term the People is a collective Term that may exclude Individuals?

Promoting the general welfare may entail voluntary advocacy. Providing for the general welfare merely requires appropriations.

You haven't answered my question.