Explaining Socialism to a Republican

[BluesLegend]

Why are you leftist wealth re-distribution types so greedy? Shouldn't wealth be redistributed globally? Okay so you would only earn $3 an hour and probably have to live in a tent and poop in the woods but at least the wealth would be fairly re-distributed...right?

Any, ANY form of taxation is "wealth distribution"....and if you do NOT want to adhere in the social contract, then indeed you'll be living in a tent and pooping in the woods.
Building bridges, carving out super highways, relying on dams, etc. are ALL socialistic enterprises.....Discovering new drugs by the NIH, checking out our food and water safety, are ALL socialistic enterprises.....
Calling 911 for help, funding education through real estate taxes, applying for a loan at your local bank are also ALL social enterprises.l

Are you only in favor of re-distributing some wealth, so that you personally get more or are you prepared to go all the way and re-distribute the worlds wealth knowing that means you will probably end up with less than you have now? I ask because I doubt if even one liberal on this forum foaming at the mouth about wealth re-distribution is will going to go that far. Not if it means they personally might lose their house, car, and have to live on much less than they do today. Hence they should shut their big fat mouths about it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

dear, conservatives want extreme change while liberals want to protect the status quo welfare nanny state. Do you understand. Oddy, our founders also wanted change to a very very limited form of govt.

see why we have to be 100% positive that a liberal will be slow? Is any other conclusion possible??

 

[OnePercenter]

Herion dealers aren't predators. They supply a product people want. Tax collectors, on the other hand, are predators. They take your money at gun point.

Bernie Made-Off supplied a product that people wanted.

Tax collectors? Ask an American his/her effective federal tax rate for 2014.

 

[daws101]

as I said don't call me dear.
the only thing of importance to understand about you is that you talk out your ass.
you can never be wrong as you are never right.

, how is greed possible under capitalism? If you own a business you pray your competitior gets greedy so you can drive him into bankruptcy. China just eliminated 40% of world poverty because capitalism squeezes out greed and forces people to care only about pleasing other people with goods and services that increase their standard of living at the fastest possible rate..

Do you understand now?

repeating nonsense is just that....
do you understand now?

dear, if its nonsense you must say why?? A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary. Also, FYI Gordon Geko is not a economist or philosopher.

thanks captain obvious.....
nonsense
[ ˈnänˌsens ]
NOUN
noun: nonsense

1. spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense:
   "he was talking absolute nonsense"

by definition is unexplainable)that's why

btw this gem is a prime example of nonsense "A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary."
English not your first language?

dear, you said it was nonsensical to say that capitalism prevents greed and encourages the fastest economic growth possible. Can you say why its nonsensical or must you admit as a typical liberal you lack the IQ to defend your statement.

PS- you fool only yourself by trying to change the subject

my statement needs no defending....and your repeating of the same bullshit endlessly just proves that.
as to the IQ thing......I could be brain dead and still be 100 point above you on your best day...
besides that like all your unoriginal retorts is meaningless.

 

[daws101]

only when it fits you purposes.... you are wrong, own it.

My purpose is the same as the purpose of most of the Founding Fathers: freedom. Of course, Hamilton had a different purpose. He even wanted to setup the United States as a monarchy, so it's easy to see what his ulterior purpose was.

you like lot of so called conservatives have no fucking clue as to what freedom means or what to do with it passed your own childish and selfish needs..
proclaiming you and the founding fathers have anything in common is laughable..

Freedom means absence of government initiated force. The Founding Fathers had the same definition. Turds like you, on the other hand, think freedom means not having to earn a living and having the government pay for your birth control.

proclaiming you and the founding fathers have anything in common is laughable..

Avoiding the issue, as always.

Tell us what your definition of freedom is. We can all use a good laugh.

you wish.....freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...

 

[daws101]

, how is greed possible under capitalism? If you own a business you pray your competitior gets greedy so you can drive him into bankruptcy. China just eliminated 40% of world poverty because capitalism squeezes out greed and forces people to care only about pleasing other people with goods and services that increase their standard of living at the fastest possible rate..

Do you understand now?

repeating nonsense is just that....
do you understand now?

dear, if its nonsense you must say why?? A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary. Also, FYI Gordon Geko is not a economist or philosopher.

thanks captain obvious.....
nonsense
[ ˈnänˌsens ]
NOUN
noun: nonsense

1. spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense:
   "he was talking absolute nonsense"

by definition is unexplainable)that's why

btw this gem is a prime example of nonsense "A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary."
English not your first language?

dear, you said it was nonsensical to say that capitalism prevents greed and encourages the fastest economic growth possible. Can you say why its nonsensical or must you admit as a typical liberal you lack the IQ to defend your statement.

PS- you fool only yourself by trying to change the subject

Notice that he still hasn't answered any questions. He hasn't told us what his definition of freedom is, even though he claims to know that mine is wrong.

I'm under no contract to answer in a manner or a time frame that is convenient to you.....clear...

 

[bripat9643]

My purpose is the same as the purpose of most of the Founding Fathers: freedom. Of course, Hamilton had a different purpose. He even wanted to setup the United States as a monarchy, so it's easy to see what his ulterior purpose was.

you like lot of so called conservatives have no fucking clue as to what freedom means or what to do with it passed your own childish and selfish needs..
proclaiming you and the founding fathers have anything in common is laughable..

Freedom means absence of government initiated force. The Founding Fathers had the same definition. Turds like you, on the other hand, think freedom means not having to earn a living and having the government pay for your birth control.

proclaiming you and the founding fathers have anything in common is laughable..

Avoiding the issue, as always.

Tell us what your definition of freedom is. We can all use a good laugh.

you wish.....freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...

So you are against freedom?

 

[nat4900]

dear capitalism prevents monopoly through competition while socialism encourages it. Notice how as a typical low IQ brainwashed liberal you get everythig backwards.

"Brilliant"......this [dear] dingbat states that capitalism prevents monopoly....and of course, the repeal of Glass-Steagal has given us banks who are too big to fail......on the other hand this same dingbat states that socialism encourages Wall Street bankers to gamble with other people's money.....

If this poster is your paragon of economics acumen.....there's not much more to post.

 

[daws101]

Nobody, even a Moon Bat, is stupid enough to believe that there is a fixed amount of wealth and that if one person gets more then another person gets less.

These Moon Bats are doing nothing more than being envious. It is envy and greed on their part and they rationalize it by saying they are poorer because somebody else is richer.

I think you're wrong about that. All the liberal turds posting in this forum believe it. Their entire world-view is predicated on the proposition.

false assumption....

It's not an assumption. They have said as much many times.

who the fuck is they? btw that's called an appeal to the masses or appeal to authority
Appeal to Common Belief
argumentum ad populum

(also known as: appeal to accepted belief, groupthink, appeal to widespread belief, appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, argument by consensus, consensus fallacy, authority of the many, bandwagon fallacy, argumentum ad numerum, appeal to the number, argumentum consensus gentium, appeal to the mob, appeal to the gallery, mob appeal, social conformance, value of community)

Description: When the claim that most or many people in general or of a particular group accept a belief as true is presented as evidence for the claim. Accepting another person’s belief, or many people’s beliefs, without demanding evidence as to why that person accepts the belief, is lazy thinking and a dangerous way to accept information.

Logical Form:

A lot of people believe X.

Therefore, X must be true.
Appeal to Authority
Explanation
An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true.

Appeals to authority are always deductively fallacious; even a legitimate authority speaking on his area of expertise may affirm a falsehood, so no testimony of any authority is guaranteed to be true.

However, the informal fallacy occurs only when the authority cited either (a) is not an authority, or (b) is not an authority on the subject on which he is being cited. If someone either isn’t an authority at all, or isn’t an authority on the subject about which they’re speaking, then that undermines the value of their testimony.

more proof you have nothing in common with the F.F'S

"They" means the liberal turds in this forum. It refers to the noun in the previous sentence. Don't you understand plain English?

yes? do you?

 

[bripat9643]

repeating nonsense is just that....
do you understand now?

dear, if its nonsense you must say why?? A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary. Also, FYI Gordon Geko is not a economist or philosopher.

thanks captain obvious.....
nonsense
[ ˈnänˌsens ]
NOUN
noun: nonsense

1. spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense:
   "he was talking absolute nonsense"

by definition is unexplainable)that's why

btw this gem is a prime example of nonsense "A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary."
English not your first language?

dear, you said it was nonsensical to say that capitalism prevents greed and encourages the fastest economic growth possible. Can you say why its nonsensical or must you admit as a typical liberal you lack the IQ to defend your statement.

PS- you fool only yourself by trying to change the subject

Notice that he still hasn't answered any questions. He hasn't told us what his definition of freedom is, even though he claims to know that mine is wrong.

I'm under no contract to answer in a manner or a time frame that is convenient to you.....clear...

True. You can run away with your tail between your legs, but we'll all know what to think.

This is a debate forum. You obviously don't want to discuss your idiotic ideas. What are you doing here?

 

[bripat9643]

I think you're wrong about that. All the liberal turds posting in this forum believe it. Their entire world-view is predicated on the proposition.

false assumption....

It's not an assumption. They have said as much many times.

who the fuck is they? btw that's called an appeal to the masses or appeal to authority
Appeal to Common Belief
argumentum ad populum

(also known as: appeal to accepted belief, groupthink, appeal to widespread belief, appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, argument by consensus, consensus fallacy, authority of the many, bandwagon fallacy, argumentum ad numerum, appeal to the number, argumentum consensus gentium, appeal to the mob, appeal to the gallery, mob appeal, social conformance, value of community)

Description: When the claim that most or many people in general or of a particular group accept a belief as true is presented as evidence for the claim. Accepting another person’s belief, or many people’s beliefs, without demanding evidence as to why that person accepts the belief, is lazy thinking and a dangerous way to accept information.

Logical Form:

A lot of people believe X.

Therefore, X must be true.
Appeal to Authority
Explanation
An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true.

Appeals to authority are always deductively fallacious; even a legitimate authority speaking on his area of expertise may affirm a falsehood, so no testimony of any authority is guaranteed to be true.

However, the informal fallacy occurs only when the authority cited either (a) is not an authority, or (b) is not an authority on the subject on which he is being cited. If someone either isn’t an authority at all, or isn’t an authority on the subject about which they’re speaking, then that undermines the value of their testimony.

more proof you have nothing in common with the F.F'S

"They" means the liberal turds in this forum. It refers to the noun in the previous sentence. Don't you understand plain English?

yes? do you?

You just keep running away.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

"Brilliant"......this [dear] dingbat states that capitalism prevents monopoly....and of course, the repeal of Glass-Steagal has given us banks who are too big to fail....

dear, lets be as simple as possible for you. Can you give us an example of a capitalist monopoly??

 

[bripat9643]

, how is greed possible under capitalism? If you own a business you pray your competitior gets greedy so you can drive him into bankruptcy. China just eliminated 40% of world poverty because capitalism squeezes out greed and forces people to care only about pleasing other people with goods and services that increase their standard of living at the fastest possible rate..

Do you understand now?

repeating nonsense is just that....
do you understand now?

dear, if its nonsense you must say why?? A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary. Also, FYI Gordon Geko is not a economist or philosopher.

thanks captain obvious.....
nonsense
[ ˈnänˌsens ]
NOUN
noun: nonsense

1. spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense:
   "he was talking absolute nonsense"

by definition is unexplainable)that's why

btw this gem is a prime example of nonsense "A liberal will so stupid as to not know that saying why is necessary."
English not your first language?

dear, you said it was nonsensical to say that capitalism prevents greed and encourages the fastest economic growth possible. Can you say why its nonsensical or must you admit as a typical liberal you lack the IQ to defend your statement.

PS- you fool only yourself by trying to change the subject

my statement needs no defending....and your repeating of the same bullshit endlessly just proves that.
as to the IQ thing......I could be brain dead and still be 100 point above you on your best day...
besides that like all your un original retorts it meaning less.

You respond to questions about your ideas just like Hillary responds to questions about her email.

 

[daws101]

[]false my statement is only confusing to low end of the gene pool types who need someone or something to blame for their own ignorance, lack of skill or luck .
throw in a heavy dose of an unearned sense of entitlement and guys like you appear.

You haven't given one specific example of how you are poorer because somebody else is richer, even though I have asked a half dozen times.

You have nothing. Typical for a Moon Bat.

I have also asked. The result?

*** cricketes ***

He won't explain it because deep down he knows it's true. However, he also just "knows" that he's entitled to some of the money that rich guy earned.

false there is nothing to explain..
your confusion is not my problem...

Translation: you refuse to answer any questions put to you because you know you'll answers will make it obvious that you're a fool.

false! you wanting me to appear foolish does not make me a fool, on the other hand ....

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

states that socialism encourages Wall Street bankers to gamble with other people's money.....

.

if I said that I'll pay you $10,000. Bet?? or run away with your liberal strawman tail between your legs.

 

[daws101]

dear, conservatives want extreme change while liberals want to protect the status quo welfare nanny state. Do you understand. Oddy, our founders also wanted change to a very very limited form of govt.

see why we have to be 100% positive that a liberal will be slow? Is any other conclusion possible??

more meaningless babble .....

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

[]false my statement is only confusing to low end of the gene pool types who need someone or something to blame for their own ignorance, lack of skill or luck .
throw in a heavy dose of an unearned sense of entitlement and guys like you appear.

You haven't given one specific example of how you are poorer because somebody else is richer, even though I have asked a half dozen times.

You have nothing. Typical for a Moon Bat.

I have also asked. The result?

*** cricketes ***

He won't explain it because deep down he knows it's true. However, he also just "knows" that he's entitled to some of the money that rich guy earned.

false there is nothing to explain..
your confusion is not my problem...

Translation: you refuse to answer any questions put to you because you know you'll answers will make it obvious that you're a fool.

false! you wanting me to appear foolish does not make me a fool, on the other hand ....

dear, a liberal is a fool. He wants to buy from from Steve Jobs and then have the govt steal the money back. Suppose Jobs wanted the phone back but did not want to give you your money back? To the liberal, govt is nothing more than a thief on their behalf.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

more meaningless babble .....

translation: as a typical liberal I lack the IQ to respond substantively

 

[daws101]

you like lot of so called conservatives have no fucking clue as to what freedom means or what to do with it passed your own childish and selfish needs..
proclaiming you and the founding fathers have anything in common is laughable..

Freedom means absence of government initiated force. The Founding Fathers had the same definition. Turds like you, on the other hand, think freedom means not having to earn a living and having the government pay for your birth control.

proclaiming you and the founding fathers have anything in common is laughable..

Avoiding the issue, as always.

Tell us what your definition of freedom is. We can all use a good laugh.

you wish.....freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...

So you are against freedom?

lol! I'm against ignorance.....

 

[daws101]

Get back to us next time someone steals your wallet.....I.e. thief has more money than you and now you're poorer.....

.......and, by the way, don't bother calling the cops since law enforcement is a tax-paid social program.

You didn't answer my question. Tell me how somebody having more money than you has made you poorer. I want specifics.

it depends on how they made "their" money.
most all billionaires by doing just that making other people poorer

How do they make other people poorer?

asked and answered. you just don't like the answer..stop repeating...

Please refer me to the answer. Post #?

is your mouse broken? back button?