‘Explosive documents’ connect Christie, bridge scandal

[Meister]

Full transcript: N.J. Gov. Chris Christie?s Jan. 9 news conference on George Washington Bridge scandal - The Washington Post



He trusted the judgement of his campaign manager for 5 long years but only now he decides that he can't when it is politically expedient to do so?



This is political dissembling. Christie is telling a story that doesn't add up. When he had a press conference 4 weeks ago he used the story about it being a "traffic study" and now he is claiming to be "blindsided" by the emails.

If the NJ Legislature and the Port Authority were not buying the "story" about the "traffic study" then Christie should have been asking why they weren't. Instead he comes up with this "narrative" that makes it appear as though he put everyone on the carpet and now he is "blindsided". There is no way that is credible because during those 4 weeks the guilty parties would have been trying to cover their butts and that would have included "off the record" conversations with Christie.

Furthermore, unless Christie is a gullible fool, and he is far from being one, he would not have been satisfied with what he was hearing either. As a former prosecutor he should be able to spot a hole in a story in a heartbeat.

His answers were evasive and he is laying the blame for this on his staff. It defies credulity that none of his allegedly "trusted friends and advisers" told him the truth. It is also incredible to believe that his staff would concoct this plan without clearing it with him first. Was there no one there who considered the political ramifications if this became public knowledge? We aren't talking about neophytes here. These are political insiders. They would be well aware of the consequences so they would not have acted on their own authority. Someone higher up the food chain than Bridget Kelly came up with this scheme. I seriously doubt it was Christie's legal adviser so that leaves only Christie and his Chief of Staff. Given Christie's feud with the NJ Democratic legislature and the timing it all points back at Christie himself.

how would he know if a trusted high ranking staff member lied to him? do you think the governor of a state is concerned about road closures, one that lasted only four days. please.

We still only have Christie's word that anyone lied to him.

When a "road closure" causes problems with interstate commerce and prevents 1st responders from being able to carry out their duties then he should be concerned when it persists for 4 days.

Until someone comes forward with knowledge otherwise, he's innocent....that's how it's done in this country, dorito.

 

[Yurt]

so christie is guilty because we only have his word.....

yawn

christie was a hero to the left a year ago....now...they've thrown him under the bus to smear the gop

 

[Yurt]

Here is Christie's problem. If he didn't know about this he is incompetent. His CLOSEST aides knew about it.

how is he incompetent if he was lied to? you do realize this was done by the port authority in both NY and NJ. that would make it reasonable to believe the closure was legit as two states were involved.

nothing incompetent about being lied to.

It was not both.


It was the city of Fort Lee, that was essentially turned into a parking lot, for four days.

On the first day of school.

During the anniversary of 9/11.

On an order from Christies office.

both?

and no one denies it came from his office.

your point?

 

[paperview]

how is he incompetent if he was lied to? you do realize this was done by the port authority in both NY and NJ. that would make it reasonable to believe the closure was legit as two states were involved.

nothing incompetent about being lied to.

It was not both.


It was the city of Fort Lee, that was essentially turned into a parking lot, for four days.

On the first day of school.

During the anniversary of 9/11.

On an order from Christies office.

both?

and no one denies it came from his office.

your point?

Did you forget what you just wrote?

" you do realize this was done by the port authority in both NY and NJ. that would make it reasonable to believe the closure was legit as two states were involved. "

That is not true.

 

[Yurt]

It was not both.


It was the city of Fort Lee, that was essentially turned into a parking lot, for four days.

On the first day of school.

During the anniversary of 9/11.

On an order from Christies office.

both?

and no one denies it came from his office.

your point?

Did you forget what you just wrote?

" you do realize this was done by the port authority in both NY and NJ. that would make it reasonable to believe the closure was legit as two states were involved. "

That is not true.

ok, if you say so, but i read here:

How'd this begin? In mid-September, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey unexpectedly closed two access lanes on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge, which spans the Hudson River and serves as a major commuter route between the two states. A massive, weeklong traffic jam ensued, clogging the streets of nearby Fort Lee.

Chris Christie's Bridge Scandal, Explained | Mother Jones

and here:

Two of Christie's appointees at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the bi-state agency that oversees the bridge and other transportation facilities in the region, have resigned over controversy arising from the closures.

Lawmakers pledge to continue probing New Jersey bridge scandal

it had to be both states. sorry, but according to what is out there, you're wrong. do you have anything to the contrary?

 

[paperview]

both?

and no one denies it came from his office.

your point?

Did you forget what you just wrote?

" you do realize this was done by the port authority in both NY and NJ. that would make it reasonable to believe the closure was legit as two states were involved. "

That is not true.

ok, if you say so, but i read here:

How'd this begin? In mid-September, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey unexpectedly closed two access lanes on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge, which spans the Hudson River and serves as a major commuter route between the two states. A massive, weeklong traffic jam ensued, clogging the streets of nearby Fort Lee.

Chris Christie's Bridge Scandal, Explained | Mother Jones

and here:

Two of Christie's appointees at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the bi-state agency that oversees the bridge and other transportation facilities in the region, have resigned over controversy arising from the closures.

Lawmakers pledge to continue probing New Jersey bridge scandal

it had to be both states. sorry, but according to what is out there, you're wrong. do you have anything to the contrary?

lol

You think Christie appointed people to work in New York...Oooookkay.

They are New Jersey people who worked for the Port Authority -- which is controlled by both state Governors -- but it was the NJ people who shut it down.

It was the NY PA dude who put an end to it -- and the NJ assholes who caused it were pissed when the NY guy stopped the madness.

Yeesh.

 

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"After a top New Jersey political appointee at the Port Authority, David Wildstein, ordered the lane closings at the George Washington Bridge that clogged Fort Lee, N.J., for four days in September,

the authority’s New York-appointed executive director, Patrick J. Foye, exploded with anger and ordered the lanes reopened.


But then the authority’s New Jersey-appointed chairman, David Samson, expressed outrage over Mr. Foye’s outrage, accusing him of leaking the story of the lane closings.


The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is a bistate agency that was designed to take politics out of the operation of the region’s trade and transportation infrastructure. But as portrayed in email traffic released this week by investigators of the lane-closing scandal, it appears consumed by politics: a split personality beholden to the whims of the two rival governors who control it."


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/11/n...s-agencys-status-as-2-warring-fiefs.html?_r=0

 

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"After a top New Jersey political appointee at the Port Authority, David Wildstein, ordered the lane closings at the George Washington Bridge that clogged Fort Lee, N.J., for four days in September,

the authority’s New York-appointed executive director, Patrick J. Foye, exploded with anger and ordered the lanes reopened.


But then the authority’s New Jersey-appointed chairman, David Samson, expressed outrage over Mr. Foye’s outrage, accusing him of leaking the story of the lane closings.


The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is a bistate agency that was designed to take politics out of the operation of the region’s trade and transportation infrastructure. But as portrayed in email traffic released this week by investigators of the lane-closing scandal, it appears consumed by politics: a split personality beholden to the whims of the two rival governors who control it."


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/11/n...s-agencys-status-as-2-warring-fiefs.html?_r=0

 

[paperview]

Get it now?

 

[Political Junky]

On another thread, someone became indignant at the suggestion that the Right was defending Christie. This thread is full of defensive posts from the Right,

 

[Derideo_Te]

so christie is guilty because we only have his word.....

yawn

christie was a hero to the left a year ago....now...they've thrown him under the bus to smear the gop

Please provide the link to where I stated that Christie was guilty, Yurt!

Right now we only have his word that his staff lied to him. Christie has a track record of taking retributive action against his political opponents and he was dissembling during his press conference. Most of all his current story doesn't add up. Ask any cop and they will tell you that whenever someone keeps changing their story they are probably lying. First it was about a "traffic study" and now it is the fault of his staff. There is more to come and it isn't going to get any better in my opinion.

 

[Yurt]

Did you forget what you just wrote?

" you do realize this was done by the port authority in both NY and NJ. that would make it reasonable to believe the closure was legit as two states were involved. "

That is not true.

ok, if you say so, but i read here:

How'd this begin? In mid-September, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey unexpectedly closed two access lanes on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge, which spans the Hudson River and serves as a major commuter route between the two states. A massive, weeklong traffic jam ensued, clogging the streets of nearby Fort Lee.

Chris Christie's Bridge Scandal, Explained | Mother Jones

and here:

Two of Christie's appointees at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the bi-state agency that oversees the bridge and other transportation facilities in the region, have resigned over controversy arising from the closures.

Lawmakers pledge to continue probing New Jersey bridge scandal

it had to be both states. sorry, but according to what is out there, you're wrong. do you have anything to the contrary?

lol

You think Christie appointed people to work in New York...Oooookkay.

They are New Jersey people who worked for the Port Authority -- which is controlled by both state Governors -- but it was the NJ people who shut it down.

It was the NY PA dude who put an end to it -- and the NJ assholes who caused it were pissed when the NY guy stopped the madness.

Yeesh.

so it didn't take both states?

my good lord, why are you even posting about this....seriously. the closure affected TWO states, it had to have BOTH states approval.

the asswipe who started this had a buddy on the NY side.

grow the fuck up.

 

[Yurt]

so christie is guilty because we only have his word.....

yawn

christie was a hero to the left a year ago....now...they've thrown him under the bus to smear the gop

Please provide the link to where I stated that Christie was guilty, Yurt!

Right now we only have his word that his staff lied to him. Christie has a track record of taking retributive action against his political opponents and he was dissembling during his press conference. Most of all his current story doesn't add up. Ask any cop and they will tell you that whenever someone keeps changing their story they are probably lying. First it was about a "traffic study" and now it is the fault of his staff. There is more to come and it isn't going to get any better in my opinion.

just wondering...but at least now you've state you don't know he is guilty.

thank you.

 

[paperview]

ok, if you say so, but i read here:

How'd this begin? In mid-September, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey unexpectedly closed two access lanes on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge, which spans the Hudson River and serves as a major commuter route between the two states. A massive, weeklong traffic jam ensued, clogging the streets of nearby Fort Lee.

Chris Christie's Bridge Scandal, Explained | Mother Jones

and here:

Two of Christie's appointees at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the bi-state agency that oversees the bridge and other transportation facilities in the region, have resigned over controversy arising from the closures.

Lawmakers pledge to continue probing New Jersey bridge scandal

it had to be both states. sorry, but according to what is out there, you're wrong. do you have anything to the contrary?

lol

You think Christie appointed people to work in New York...Oooookkay.

They are New Jersey people who worked for the Port Authority -- which is controlled by both state Governors -- but it was the NJ people who shut it down.

It was the NY PA dude who put an end to it -- and the NJ assholes who caused it were pissed when the NY guy stopped the madness.

Yeesh.

so it didn't take both states?

my good lord, why are you even posting about this....seriously. the closure affected TWO states, it had to have BOTH states approval.

the asswipe who started this had a buddy on the NY side.

grow the fuck up.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/8445035-post908.html

Still insulting I see.

How bout you read that ^ and tell me again about "the buddy on the NY side."

 

[percysunshine]

DNC internal polling shows that Christy can beat Hillary in 2016. Hence, scandal.

 

[paperview]

Christies office left a big ass paper trail of corruption. Hence, scandal.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Funny, Holder is quick to jump on a local issue, and investigate whether federal laws were broken. He must think this is much more important than the IRS or Benghazi cluster f*cks

Holder should have found why the federal law and IRS regulation do not comport.

The Tea Party PACS are illegal.

 

[Spoonman]

hes your asshole not ours

You've been gone a long time, TM. Leftwingers are the ones who have been making happy sighs about him.

yea, we had months of republicans need to take a lesson and learn from Christie. well they learned a typical democratic practice. corruption. heck, when he is president he can use the IRS for political revenge.

one think I have to say about the last 5 years is there has been a plethora of events occurring that have exposed the left as hyopcrites

 

[Spoonman]

(VIDEO) Greatest Line About Democrats to EVER appear in the Movies - The Federalist Papers

 

[Yurt]

lol

You think Christie appointed people to work in New York...Oooookkay.

They are New Jersey people who worked for the Port Authority -- which is controlled by both state Governors -- but it was the NJ people who shut it down.

It was the NY PA dude who put an end to it -- and the NJ assholes who caused it were pissed when the NY guy stopped the madness.

Yeesh.

so it didn't take both states?

my good lord, why are you even posting about this....seriously. the closure affected TWO states, it had to have BOTH states approval.

the asswipe who started this had a buddy on the NY side.

grow the fuck up.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/8445035-post908.html

Still insulting I see.

How bout you read that ^ and tell me again about "the buddy on the NY side."

how about you learn to read...from your own link:

With 6,800 employees and a budget of $7 billion in 2012, the authority is a complicated organization. Each governor appoints six commissioners and has veto power over the actions of the commissioners from his state. To ensure geographic balance in the leadership, the governor of New Jersey appoints the Port Authority’s chairman and the governor of New York appoints its executive director.

you are a moron if you think the closure only happened only from NJ. the bridge spans two states.

but do continue being an idiot.