jknowgood
Diamond Member
Yeah what did come out of the emails is that Hillary had to cheat against Sanders. You still supported her. Hillary even received the question of the debates in advance. Talk about rigging the election.No, no you don't get off with that response, influence the election is a huge word. How did they influence voters? That has to be the question to answer since it is the accusation. Come on how?I'm not sure we will know the degree to which it affected the election, but I'm sure it had some influence. Either way, that is water under the bridge now.Again, influence how?They won't. They are happy because it affected their opponent and that is more important to them than evidence that a foreign state directly attempted to influence. There is no way of knowing whether or not it a tually made a difference in the election, but tbat isnt the point. Americans should be outraged. The fact that some are going so far as to justify and applaud it is beyond disconcerting. It's disgusting.The CIA and NSA say it was the Russians and they did it to help Trump. And there is no evidence Hillary's was hacked. Ay caramba. Read something, GOP chumps.
Are you OK with this happening? Or, do you think we should take it seriously? Do you see it as undermining the integrity of our elections?
I do.
Yes. I can. Who are you to make demands when you won't even answer questions?
There is no objective way right now to measure the damage done by the hacks, releasing to wikileaks, Russian propagated fake news, etc.
I think it would be naive to assume there was no effect. You can look at the proliferation of fake news and conspiracy theories spawned by all this, as one example and the willingness of people to believe it. You think it hasn't influenced opinions? There has been little attempt to critically analyze the material in its appropriate context. It's been released in data dumps.
Did it influence the election? Yes. Look at how the polls dropped after each release. Of course the polls were notoriously off this time but I think that has much to do with the many wildcards thrown into the election.