Fascism

[NLT]

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Is "asshole you signature, or are you calling Trump an asshole? Syntax has always been problematic for you.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Please review the following two links on fascism and what we have observed since the election of Donald Trump to the office of POTUS.


Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism • /r/politics

Consider the promises made by Mr. Trump during the time before he received the nomination of the Republican Party, his rhetoric before his election after being nominated, and his rhetoric since being elected to POTUS?

IS this like a fake news website?

 

[Dschrute3]

If supporting putting Americans first again = 'Fascism', so be it i guess. I'm in.

 

[skookerasbil]

lol.....the guy who lives in the most racist city in America is posting up about facism!!

San Fransicko housing policy has been kicking blacks out for 20 years......and the residents are just fine with it and lecture everybody about who is racist and facist!


Newsom’s San Francisco: Most Racist City in California : Indybay

A sudden flash of insight: San Francisco Is The Most Racist City

 

[Divine Wind]

I don't need a lesson on what Poisoning the Well is, thanks. But thanks also for bringing up "Rump". Love to explain. I use "Rump" not as a proper name but as a title A title the man has duly earned through hard work, i.e. the hard work of being an Ass. And of course it puns on his real name so everybody knows who I refer to.

But I haven't been discussing Rump here and certainly not as a source. If I were picking apart something Rump said as a source, i.e denigrating the content on the basis of where it comes from ---- then you'd have Poisoning the Well.

On the other hand picking on "Rense" when the citation is a simple verbatim citiation of the exact same analysis availabe from multiple other sources that are wholly unrelated to Rense in any sense, ABSOLUTELY is poisoning the well. It's a blatant attempt to sweep the topic away, usually meaning the well-poisoner is afraid of it.

Agreed. Your posts indicate you are quite adept at it.

 

[12icer]

Surely you're not planning to counter a Poison the Well fallacy through ---- another Poison the Well fallacy?

What is so damned intimidating about the content?

No need to do so since you're doing fine on your own, sir.

For the third time, no comment about the Fascism link I provided? It's both less controversial and more valid than a 13 year old article written for GW Bush and retreaded for D Trump.

Definition of FASCISM
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

This post is GREAT, and shows exactly the complete fallacy of your fantastic fantasy theory. The actual definition of FASCISIM describes the liberal dimshtcrat agenda and the direction they have pushed this country for their entire time in office. Your OP is errant in its main theory, proposal and summation, therefore it is completely invalid as all the throw something and try to make it stick liberal bullshit talking points are. DW you get post of the year if I get to vote.

 

[Pogo]

If the only site/cite was the Rense Link, you might have a point.

The very fact you cited Rense at all invalidates the rest of your argument. My point stands.

Oh fucking BULLSHIT. That was never anything more than a puerile attempt to derail the thread by harping on the shiny object of a URL. It completely ignores, and can't explain, the fact that the same analysis, by the same analyst, was reprinted verbatim in several other sources, four of which are books (PoliSci and others) that I already cited in post 40.

Dogshit has no case here other than being profoundly guilty of Poisoning the Well as an attempt to deflect what is obviously for him a severely inconvenient topic. That alone tells us more about Dogshit than any analysis of 'fascism' has.

 

[Wry Catcher]

If the only site/cite was the Rense Link, you might have a point.

The very fact you cited Rense at all invalidates the rest of your argument. My point stands.

Oh fucking BULLSHIT. That was never anything more than a puerile attempt to derail the thread by harping on the shiny object of a URL. It completely ignores, and can't explain, the fact that the same analysis, by the same analyst, was reprinted verbatim in several other sources, four of which are books (PoliSci and others) that I already cited in post 40.

Dogshit has no case here other than being profoundly guilty of Poisoning the Well as an attempt to deflect what is obviously for him a severely inconvenient topic. That alone tells us more about Dogshit than any analysis of 'fascism' has.

Well said, dogshit has no case, but as a good right wing hack he will repeat the lie over and over and over and over. Why? He has no class and is a mendacious piece of shit. It's really that simple!.

 

[Wry Catcher]

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Is "asshole you signature, or are you calling Trump an asshole? Syntax has always been problematic for you.

Note: NLT is a fool, a liar, a punk and mentally challenged.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Please review the following two links on fascism and what we have observed since the election of Donald Trump to the office of POTUS.


Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism • /r/politics

Consider the promises made by Mr. Trump during the time before he received the nomination of the Republican Party, his rhetoric before his election after being nominated, and his rhetoric since being elected to POTUS?

IS this like a fake news website?

Another fool and another idiot-gram.

Q. Where are the real conservatives

A. Hiding, they are embarrassed by the fools pretending to be something they are not: honest, informed, intelligent, Christian and conservative.

 

[Coyote]

If the only site/cite was the Rense Link, you might have a point.

The very fact you cited Rense at all invalidates the rest of your argument. My point stands.

Oh fucking BULLSHIT. That was never anything more than a puerile attempt to derail the thread by harping on the shiny object of a URL. It completely ignores, and can't explain, the fact that the same analysis, by the same analyst, was reprinted verbatim in several other sources, four of which are books (PoliSci and others) that I already cited in post 40.

Dogshit has no case here other than being profoundly guilty of Poisoning the Well as an attempt to deflect what is obviously for him a severely inconvenient topic. That alone tells us more about Dogshit than any analysis of 'fascism' has.

He has also used hate sites - he sourced Frank Gaffney's CSP site, pretty widely regarded as every bit as disreputable as Rense.

This might have better definitions of fascism than Britt though: Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia

 

[Rustic]

Please review the following two links on fascism and what we have observed since the election of Donald Trump to the office of POTUS.


Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism • /r/politics

Consider the promises made by Mr. Trump during the time before he received the nomination of the Republican Party, his rhetoric before his election after being nominated, and his rhetoric since being elected to POTUS?

IS this like a fake news website?

Another fool and another idiot-gram.

Q. Where are the real conservatives

A. Hiding, they are embarrassed by the fools pretending to be something they are not: honest, informed, intelligent, Christian and conservative.

Why don't you shove your socialism up your ass and call it Hillary Clinton...

 

[bripat9643]

Please review the following two links on fascism and what we have observed since the election of Donald Trump to the office of POTUS.


Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism • /r/politics

Consider the promises made by Mr. Trump during the time before he received the nomination of the Republican Party, his rhetoric before his election after being nominated, and his rhetoric since being elected to POTUS?

The author of the first article is an unqualified quack. He has no credentials that would make him an authority on fascism. Furthermore, he provides absolutely no justification for any of his so-called "characteristics."

You only proved that you're a great big sucker. I see this shit posted in this forum about 4-6 times a year.

 

[Coyote]

Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia

Umberto Eco
In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[11] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

• "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
• "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
• "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
• "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
• "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
• "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
• "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
• Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
• "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
• "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
• "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
• "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
• "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
• "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.

Sound familiar....?

Opening in theatres near you January 20th, 2017.

 

[bripat9643]

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[bripat9643]

Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia

Umberto Eco
In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[11] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

• "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
• "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
• "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
• "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
• "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
• "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
• "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
• Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
• "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
• "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
• "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
• "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
• "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
• "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.

Sound familiar....?

Opening in theatres near you January 20th, 2017.

What evidence does he provide that these are the characteristics of fascism?

Umberto Eco was a well known communist, BTW. All his claims about fascism need to be understood in that light.

Furthermore, a lot of those characteristics describe left wingers better than they describe conservatives.

 

[Coyote]

Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia

Umberto Eco
In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[11] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

• "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
• "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
• "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
• "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
• "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
• "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
• "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
• Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
• "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
• "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
• "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
• "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
• "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
• "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.

Sound familiar....?

Opening in theatres near you January 20th, 2017.

What evidence does he provide that these are the characteristics of fascism?

Umberto Eco was a well known communist, BTW. All his claims about fascism need to be understood in that light.

How does his being a communist make his work any less valid than say a capitalist?

 

[bripat9643]

No communication of real substance can even begin unless & until those on the ends of the spectrum stop the wild hyperbole and binary thinking.

Or, unless & until those people are somehow culturally marginalized.
.

Why would anyone waste his time "communicating" with left wingers? You would make better use of your time communicating with a mentally retarded two year old.

 

[bripat9643]

Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia

Umberto Eco
In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[11] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:

• "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
• "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
• "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
• "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
• "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
• "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
• "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
• Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
• "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
• "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
• "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
• "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
• "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
• "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.

Sound familiar....?

Opening in theatres near you January 20th, 2017.

What evidence does he provide that these are the characteristics of fascism?

Umberto Eco was a well known communist, BTW. All his claims about fascism need to be understood in that light.

How does his being a communist make his work any less valid than say a capitalist?

Communists are all liars, for one thing. Furthermore, his work has no visible means of support. It has no facts or logic behind it. It's merely a list of his leftwing prejudices about anyone who isn't a leftist.

 

[12icer]

You cannot change the definition of fascist, It describes liberal leftist dimocrats EXACTLY. The current occupant, and the bitchqueen also are exact matches for the REAL definition of fascist. BOOHOOO BOOGER EATING HOO. You have been schooled but I know you are too shallow egotistical and immature to realize it because that describes liberals too.