Fat Boy Proved He Could Hit Guam

[JoeB131]

Do you know what the Allies were fighting? Read up on the goals of Germany, Japan, and Italy. And the Allies agreed to the use of nukes by the US. How many more should have died? Did you know many in Japan chose to fight until the last man? How many died in Berlin and surrounding areas because of NO SURRENDER by Hitler?

Okay, a couple of issues.

First and foremost, the goals of the Axis are irrelevent to the use of Nukes. By August 1945, Italy and Germany had already surrendered and Japan was on the brink of collapse. They were already seeking a way to surrender, the sticking point was the status of the Emperor. After Russia entered the war, we were suddenly totally okay with keeping the Emperor.

Second, the bombs really didn't force Japan's surrender. The entry of the USSR into the Pacific War did. They rolled up Japans forces in Manchuria and Korea in days. Had it dragged on any longer than that, the USSR would have gotten to Tokyo long before the US did.

 

[Peach]

Do you know what the Allies were fighting? Read up on the goals of Germany, Japan, and Italy. And the Allies agreed to the use of nukes by the US. How many more should have died? Did you know many in Japan chose to fight until the last man? How many died in Berlin and surrounding areas because of NO SURRENDER by Hitler?

Okay, a couple of issues.

First and foremost, the goals of the Axis are irrelevent to the use of Nukes. By August 1945, Italy and Germany had already surrendered and Japan was on the brink of collapse. They were already seeking a way to surrender, the sticking point was the status of the Emperor. After Russia entered the war, we were suddenly totally okay with keeping the Emperor.

Second, the bombs really didn't force Japan's surrender. The entry of the USSR into the Pacific War did. They rolled up Japans forces in Manchuria and Korea in days. Had it dragged on any longer than that, the USSR would have gotten to Tokyo long before the US did.

I learned differently; Japan was never near surrender, and the use of nukes saved lives in that war.

 

[toobfreak]

A man with nukes who threatens to use them.

It is not looking good.

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I really wish he would either launch a test missile that landed within the 200 mile limit of U.S. Territory of the West Coast or really launched one at Guam. We could knock either down and it would finally give us the excuse to bust his ass bad.

I used to want to nuke Little Kim, but I've changed my mind. After we bust his military down to little, crying babies, I want our Special Forces to TAKE HIM ALIVE and bring him back to the U.S. as a war criminal to stand trial. I want him humiliated, stripped of all dignity and forced to serve 60 years in federal prison, but not before he is taken about the USA on tour in his cage so that we can all see and laugh at him.

 

[Roudy]

It will be the most lopsided, brutal take-down in the history of military warfare. No pussyfooting or holding back with this regime. This is not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Iraq was a "cakewalk". Uh...wait a minute, not really. Unlike Iraq, North Korea has a military.

North Korea will be paralyzed in every way possible within the first 48 to 72 hours.

 

[Roudy]

It will be the most lopsided, brutal take-down in the history of military warfare. No pussyfooting or holding back with this regime. This is not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Iraq was a "cakewalk". Uh...wait a minute, not really. Unlike Iraq, North Korea has a military.

Amazing how anxious they are for wars other people will fight.

If there is any ground troops, the people that will get involved will be the South Koreans and Japanese, the same people that fat boy keeps threatening and shooting missiles at.

 

[Roudy]

Yes, we murdered 150,000 people in a country that had already been defeated and was seeking terms of surrender.

In the words of the Warrior Poet, Will Smith ...

'Don't start nothin, there won't be nothin'

Okay... so you think it was okay to do this to children?

I'm just asking, because you guys like to tell us how moral you are.

You see, we are the only country to have used these weapons on human beings. and we did it to a country that had already been effectively defeated and was seeking terms of surrender.

But we are going to tell a small country that has been invaded several times that they can't have these weapons.

So, just to be clear, you argue about the immorality of nuclear weapons and advocate for letting every unstable country acquire them?

Joehammad just hates America and everything it stands for. That's his real problem.

 

[miketx]

A man with nukes who threatens to use them.

It is not looking good.

Meh, I'm more worried about Trump having nukes than the little potbellied dictator...

Then you are a fool like most regressives.

 

[Roudy]

So, just to be clear, you argue about the immorality of nuclear weapons and advocate for letting every unstable country acquire them?

Why is it an "unstable" country? It's been ruled by the same family for 70 years now. that's about as 'Stable" as you can get.

I just think it's immoral for a country that USED NUKES ON PEOPLE to tell another country that they can't have them for self-defense.

The UN has voted unanimously (a rare event) that the fat thug is unstable and a threat to the world. Even countries like Mexico are throwing the N Korean Ambassador out.

 

[Roudy]

He's just a megalomaniac, digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. If and when the US and the West decide to take action, it will be swift and decisive.

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

 

[Geaux4it]

Yes, we murdered 150,000 people in a country that had already been defeated and was seeking terms of surrender.

In the words of the Warrior Poet, Will Smith ...

'Don't start nothin, there won't be nothin'

Okay... so you think it was okay to do this to children?

I'm just asking, because you guys like to tell us how moral you are.

You see, we are the only country to have used these weapons on human beings. and we did it to a country that had already been effectively defeated and was seeking terms of surrender.

But we are going to tell a small country that has been invaded several times that they can't have these weapons.

Dude, you are wrong like a broken clock is right twice a day

Japan rejected the terms

-Geaux

President Truman had signed the Potsdam Declaration with our allies on July 26, 1945 that mandated unconditional surrender for Japan, but the concepts outlined in the Japanese peace feelers would have left them with their empire virtually intact and not unconditional surrender.

The Japanese had, in fact, put out “peace” feelers through the Russians, but the Japanese concept of “surrender” was altogether different than what was required by the Potsdam Declaration

https://www.quora.com/Did-the-Japan...re-an-atomic-bomb-was-dropped-on-them-in-WWII

 

[Peach]

He's just a megalomaniac, digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. If and when the US and the West decide to take action, it will be swift and decisive.

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

How many innocents die in the "let's bomb them first" fantasy?

 

[Roudy]

The question isn't whether or not the fat punk and his regime will be demolished if it comes down to having to use the military option, the question is what happens in the aftermath. There should be a multi national force comprised mainly of N Korea's neighbors in the region, ready to step in and stabilize the country.

 

[Roudy]

He's just a megalomaniac, digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. If and when the US and the West decide to take action, it will be swift and decisive.

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

How many innocents die in the "let's bomb them first" fantasy?

We don't know. How many innocents die if the fat punk lands a nuclear missile on one of our major coastal US cities?

 

[Peach]

He's just a megalomaniac, digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. If and when the US and the West decide to take action, it will be swift and decisive.

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

How many innocents die in the "let's bomb them first" fantasy?

We don't know. How many innocents die if the fat punk lands a nuclear missile on one of our major coastal US cities?

He hasn't the range, yet. Yes, something must be done, but getting rid of him may be the best solution.

 

[Roudy]

He's just a megalomaniac, digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. If and when the US and the West decide to take action, it will be swift and decisive.

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

How many innocents die in the "let's bomb them first" fantasy?

We don't know. How many innocents die if the fat punk lands a nuclear missile on one of our major coastal US cities?

He hasn't the range, yet. Yes, something must be done, but getting rid of him may be the best solution.

Are we going to wait until he has the capacity to hit us before we take action? That is what this is all about. Getting rid of him before he acquires the capacity is a much better option than when he does.

 

[TomParks]

If Kim Dim Bulb flies one over Guam will it be MOAB #2 on their nuclear test range or the rain of fire on NK?

MOAB is not designed for use in an area without total air superiority and no threat of anti-aircraft fire. Please stop using this weapons as an example of what we could use against NK. It simply cannot happen. It is dropped by a cargo aircraft by parachute.

Thanks for explaining that. I still have the same question however. If Kim takes the next logical step in his test progression and launches a missile over Guam what should our response be? Do we decimate their test range, or do we decimate their country? Or is there a non-military option?

It depends completely on the level of decimation of South Korea that we are willing to accept. Making a conventional attack on his launch facilities because some of these missiles apparently are capable of being fired from mobile launchers.

If we could locate them and launch a coordinated surprise attack using cruise missiles on their fixed facilities and mobile launchers, we just might convince him that the nuclear option is not his best bet. Having the B-2s standing by to mop up would also be a good idea.

The only problem is that NK could still launch a massive artillery attack on SK and kills possibly hundred of thousands of innocent civilians. Should he do that, the limits would have to come off and we would be forced to destroy Kim's regime to the last man. China might not like that.

So from what I read the main threat is artillery pointed at Seoul.....so that threat would have to be neutralized fast. What is the quickest way to do this?

 

[Asclepias]

He's just a megalomaniac, digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself. If and when the US and the West decide to take action, it will be swift and decisive.

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

Actually it is about the US only dumbass. China doesnt have to go to war with the entire world. No one is going to back the US if they invade N.Korea. The Chinese will not allow the US to occupy or attack N.Korea.

 

[TomParks]

Even Drumpf isnt that dumb. There is no outcome that doesnt end with a war with China. Drumpf will need to kiss plenty of Chinese booty or US troops in S. Korea will be wiped off the map.

This isn't about the US only dumbass. China will not go to war with the entire world both economically and militarily for an out of control, spoiled brat fat punk.

How many innocents die in the "let's bomb them first" fantasy?

We don't know. How many innocents die if the fat punk lands a nuclear missile on one of our major coastal US cities?

He hasn't the range, yet. Yes, something must be done, but getting rid of him may be the best solution.

Are we going to wait until he has the capacity to hit us before we take action? That is what what this is all about. Getting rid of him before he acquires the capacity is a much better option than when he does.

He wants war and does not care but liberals can accept that. He is going to hit Japan or Guam sooner than later

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If Kim Dim Bulb flies one over Guam will it be MOAB #2 on their nuclear test range or the rain of fire on NK?

MOAB is not designed for use in an area without total air superiority and no threat of anti-aircraft fire. Please stop using this weapons as an example of what we could use against NK. It simply cannot happen. It is dropped by a cargo aircraft by parachute.

Thanks for explaining that. I still have the same question however. If Kim takes the next logical step in his test progression and launches a missile over Guam what should our response be? Do we decimate their test range, or do we decimate their country? Or is there a non-military option?

It depends completely on the level of decimation of South Korea that we are willing to accept. Making a conventional attack on his launch facilities because some of these missiles apparently are capable of being fired from mobile launchers.

If we could locate them and launch a coordinated surprise attack using cruise missiles on their fixed facilities and mobile launchers, we just might convince him that the nuclear option is not his best bet. Having the B-2s standing by to mop up would also be a good idea.

The only problem is that NK could still launch a massive artillery attack on SK and kills possibly hundred of thousands of innocent civilians. Should he do that, the limits would have to come off and we would be forced to destroy Kim's regime to the last man. China might not like that.

So from what I read the main threat is artillery pointed at Seoul.....so that threat would have to be neutralized fast. What is the quickest way to do this?

Tactical nuclear weapons will work, but we aren't going to do that for obvious reasons.

 

[Asclepias]

The question isn't whether or not the fat punk and his regime will be demolished if it comes down to having to use the military option, the question is what happens in the aftermath. There should be a multi national force comprised mainly of N Korea's neighbors in the region, ready to step in and stabilize the country.

Yeah. China is going to let the US or any of their allies occupy N.Korea. Youre a fucking idiot.