FBI is wrapping up e-mail investigation with no evidence Clinton willfully violated the law

You've noted a common characteristic. But not that the characteristic is what defines the emails as classified.

Okay, how about this one? The fact they had to be "unclassified" and redacted means they were classified before. That's it. They discuss foreign affairs between the US and other countries. According to the classification guide, such is automatically classified. That's not me, that's the State Department talking.
 
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Really? Go figure? I mean, her pervert husband did get away with sexually abusing numerous women. So this shouldn't surprise anyone. The Clintons are among the most powerful of NWO Globalist Elites. They're above the law.


The usual BS lies.

You are claiming that all these are lies? Really?

(Editor's Note: The following story is an update of previously-published information and contains some new material.)

By Daniel J. Harris
& Teresa Hampton

Capitol Hill Blue

Women have been charging Bill Clinton with sexual assault since his days as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford 30 years ago.

A continuing investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing home operator, told NBC's Lisa Myers five weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC shelved the interview, saying they were confirming all parts of the story, but finally aired it Wednesday night.

Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President, followed by The Washington Post and some other publications.

But Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that Broaddrick's story is only one account of many attempted and actual sexual assaults by Clinton that go back 30 years. Among the other incidents:

  • Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;
  • In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blueconfirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name;
  • In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;
  • Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;
  • From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;
  • Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."
  • Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.
  • Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.
  • Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.
  • Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.
  • Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.
In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

''There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma,'' he said. ''But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it.''

Miss Wellstone, who is now married and lives near London, confirmed the incident when contacted this week, but refused to discuss the matter further. She said she would not go public with further details of the attack. Afterwards, she changed her phone number and hired a barrister who warned a reporter to stay away from his client.

In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford University for a "European Tour" in 1969 and was told by University officials that he was no longer welcome there. Aldrich said Clinton's academic record at Oxford was lackluster. Clinton later accepted a scholarship for Yale Law School and did not complete his studies at Oxford.

The State Department official who investigated the incident said Clinton's interests appeared to be drinking, drugs and sex, not studies.

"I came away from the incident with the clear impression that this was a young man who was there to party, not study," he said.

Oxford officials refused comment. The State Department also refused to comment on the incident. A Freedom of Information request filed by Capitol Hill Blue failed to turn up any records of the incident.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Miss James, the Washington fundraiser who confirmed the encounter with Clinton at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington, but first said she would not appear publicly because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

''My husband and children deserve better than that,'' she said when first contacted two weeks ago. After reading the Broaddrick story Friday, however, she called back and gave permission to use her maiden name, but said she had no intention of pursuing the matter.

"I wasn't raped, but I was trapped in a hotel room for a brief moment by a boorish man," she said. "I got away. He tried calling me several times after that, but I didn't take his phone calls. Then he stopped. I guess he moved on."

But Miss James also retreated from public view this week after other news organizations contacted her.

The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."

Like two other women, the former Miss Moffet declined further interviews. A neighbor said she had received threatening phone calls.

The other encounters were confirmed with more than 30 interviews with retired Arkansas state employees, former state troopers and former Yale and University of Arkansas students. Like others, they refused to go public because of fears of retaliation from the Clinton White House.

Likewise, the mainstream media has shied away from the Broaddrick story. Initially, only The Drudge Report and other Internet news sites have actively pursued it. Since initial publication of this story, a few mainstream media outlets have expressed interest in interviewing the women.

The White House did not return calls for comment. White House attorney David Kendall has issued a public denial of the Broaddrick rape.

Bill Clinton's ong history of sexual assault
Have you been watching the news on Bill Cosby? Why is it the liberal news organs, are really pissed at Bill Cosby, but not Bill Clinton? The same that they allow Charlie Rangel to avoid taxes, but poor Weslie Snipes spent 5 years in jail. Liberal politicians are above the law, and the lickspittle lapdog low information voters just adore them.
 
Is this NOT Chris Stevens?

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That's not the picture he posted or the one I was referring to.

Pay attention.
 
Really? Go figure? I mean, her pervert husband did get away with sexually abusing numerous women. So this shouldn't surprise anyone. The Clintons are among the most powerful of NWO Globalist Elites. They're above the law.


The usual BS lies.

You are claiming that all these are lies? Really?

(Editor's Note: The following story is an update of previously-published information and contains some new material.)

By Daniel J. Harris
& Teresa Hampton

Capitol Hill Blue

Women have been charging Bill Clinton with sexual assault since his days as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford 30 years ago.

A continuing investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing home operator, told NBC's Lisa Myers five weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC shelved the interview, saying they were confirming all parts of the story, but finally aired it Wednesday night.

Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President, followed by The Washington Post and some other publications.

But Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that Broaddrick's story is only one account of many attempted and actual sexual assaults by Clinton that go back 30 years. Among the other incidents:

  • Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;
  • In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blueconfirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name;
  • In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;
  • Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;
  • From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;
  • Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."
  • Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.
  • Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.
  • Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.
  • Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.
  • Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.
In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

''There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma,'' he said. ''But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it.''

Miss Wellstone, who is now married and lives near London, confirmed the incident when contacted this week, but refused to discuss the matter further. She said she would not go public with further details of the attack. Afterwards, she changed her phone number and hired a barrister who warned a reporter to stay away from his client.

In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford University for a "European Tour" in 1969 and was told by University officials that he was no longer welcome there. Aldrich said Clinton's academic record at Oxford was lackluster. Clinton later accepted a scholarship for Yale Law School and did not complete his studies at Oxford.

The State Department official who investigated the incident said Clinton's interests appeared to be drinking, drugs and sex, not studies.

"I came away from the incident with the clear impression that this was a young man who was there to party, not study," he said.

Oxford officials refused comment. The State Department also refused to comment on the incident. A Freedom of Information request filed by Capitol Hill Blue failed to turn up any records of the incident.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Miss James, the Washington fundraiser who confirmed the encounter with Clinton at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington, but first said she would not appear publicly because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

''My husband and children deserve better than that,'' she said when first contacted two weeks ago. After reading the Broaddrick story Friday, however, she called back and gave permission to use her maiden name, but said she had no intention of pursuing the matter.

"I wasn't raped, but I was trapped in a hotel room for a brief moment by a boorish man," she said. "I got away. He tried calling me several times after that, but I didn't take his phone calls. Then he stopped. I guess he moved on."

But Miss James also retreated from public view this week after other news organizations contacted her.

The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."

Like two other women, the former Miss Moffet declined further interviews. A neighbor said she had received threatening phone calls.

The other encounters were confirmed with more than 30 interviews with retired Arkansas state employees, former state troopers and former Yale and University of Arkansas students. Like others, they refused to go public because of fears of retaliation from the Clinton White House.

Likewise, the mainstream media has shied away from the Broaddrick story. Initially, only The Drudge Report and other Internet news sites have actively pursued it. Since initial publication of this story, a few mainstream media outlets have expressed interest in interviewing the women.

The White House did not return calls for comment. White House attorney David Kendall has issued a public denial of the Broaddrick rape.

Bill Clinton's ong history of sexual assault
Have you been watching the news on Bill Cosby? Why is it the liberal news organs, are really pissed at Bill Cosby, but not Bill Clinton? The same that they allow Charlie Rangel to avoid taxes, but poor Weslie Snipes spent 5 years in jail. Liberal politicians are above the law, and the lickspittle lapdog low information voters just adore them.

To most Democrats, especially in the MSM, Bill Clinton is a 'loveable ole pervert.' But the reality is actually much darker. He's sexually abused young women for many years. He's a devious sex predator like Bill Cosby. And his wife is an accomplice. She's defended him and viciously attacked his numerous victims. They're both very bad people who should be in jail.
 
Further proof the moonbats having no ability to think for themselves.

The asshat OP along with all of his squishpots prove our claims every single day.
 
Neither the article you cited nor the Washington Post analysis it links to said that.

What article? What Washington Post analysis?

The 23 emails that I linked to from the Daily Caller are the correspondence between Blumenthal and Clinton, which are clearly discussing foreign affairs. That is not only a breach of law and protocol, but the emails themselves are themselves classified.

That's fallacious reasoning. Like assuming that a fighter jet and a tricycle are the same thing because they both have wheels.

You've noted a common characteristic. But not that the characteristic is what defines the emails as classified. Nor does either article, neither the Daily Caller article nor the Washington Post article it links to, indicate that any email to Blumenthal that discusses foreign affairs is classified.

Nor have I seen any source beyond folks here on a message board, that make such a claim.

Nor have I seen anywhere where any email that deals with 'foreign affairs' is classified.

Again, just folks here at the message board. Do you have anything that's, you know, credible and informed that backs that claim?
And is it just me, or did you just flat out ignore my link?

Its just you. I read your Daily Caller link. It didn't say what you did. I read the Washington Post analysis that the Daily Caller article linked to. It didn't say what you did either.

Your source so far, that anything sent to Blumenthal that discusses foreign affairs is classified....is apparently Mudwhistle.
The Perfect Storm Circling Hillary Clinton
 
Will the State Department’s ruling on Hillary Clinton's emails hurt her campaign?
23% No, this is mostly a non-issue
20% Maybe, she was at least sloppy
52% Yes, her failure was significant
5% I’m not sure
Total responses: 6,736 votes
Ruling: Clinton, other secretaries of state at fault
Tick tock, tick tock.
Time is almost up for the felon candidate
State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices
State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices


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Will the State Department’s ruling on Hillary Clinton's emails hurt her campaign?
23% No, this is mostly a non-issue
20% Maybe, she was at least sloppy
52% Yes, her failure was significant
5% I’m not sure
Total responses: 6,736 votes
Ruling: Clinton, other secretaries of state at fault
Tick tock, tick tock.
Time is almost up for the felon candidate
State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices
State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices


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Yup. The IG has been sent out to pave the way to make Hillary's multiple FBI recommended felony charges not so 'unbearable' to Hillary's ass lickers.
They are going to go ballistic!!!!!
God I can't WAIT to watch MSNBC talking heads spinning on their chairs.
"SHE'S INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!!!!!!! PLEASE JUST VOTE FOR HER!!!!! AFTER ALL SHE HAS A VAGINA!!!!!!!!!!"
 
CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!:badgrin:
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You don't have to " willfully " violate a law in order to be charged with breaking it.

" Ignorance of the law is no excuse ".

If I'm driving 75 in a 50 mph zone while daydreaming and not paying attention to my speed --- I will still get a ticket and fined and the fact I didn't do it " willfully " is totally irrelevant and will not get me out of it.

If I fuck a 16 year old girl who looks 25 and who told me she was 22 I will still be charged with statutory rape whether I intended to have sex with an underage girl or not.
 
You insist you know better than the legal experts that contradict you.

We'll see what your opinions are worth, won't we?

I just quoted the actual fucking law to you. Read it you fucking idiot, it's quite clear.

And as mos of the legal experts asked on the topic agree, its a stretch to apply it to a SOS's communication with her own aides, rather than an enemy nation.

You insist you know better.

We'll see what your opinion is worth. Just remember.....I told you so.

You won't quote one single legal expert who says that having classified information on an unclassified email server is not a violation of the law dude. Not one.

It is a matter of record that the law was violated here. That isn't even at question. The question is, Was Hillary at fault, PERIOD. That's the part you don't seem to understand , all the "legal experts" who are defending her, they aren't arguing that the law wasn't violated, because it was, they are arguing that Hillary was not responsible for the material being on the unclassified server.

Seriously, if you're too stupid to understand the actual topic , why are you even posting, go post in the tv forum or something.
hey dude,

you are the one that posted the link to this supposed law that was broken...but FAILED at reading comprehension of the very first sentence of the law.... where was the intent to deliver this top secret info to the enemy kiddo?

that's your problem, not mine or Hillary's.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


Show me where in that law intent is required.

Here you go F&B.... right in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the law you just quoted.... I will make it big and BOLD for your blind eyes.... ;)

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,
 
I just quoted the actual fucking law to you. Read it you fucking idiot, it's quite clear.

And as mos of the legal experts asked on the topic agree, its a stretch to apply it to a SOS's communication with her own aides, rather than an enemy nation.

You insist you know better.

We'll see what your opinion is worth. Just remember.....I told you so.

You won't quote one single legal expert who says that having classified information on an unclassified email server is not a violation of the law dude. Not one.

It is a matter of record that the law was violated here. That isn't even at question. The question is, Was Hillary at fault, PERIOD. That's the part you don't seem to understand , all the "legal experts" who are defending her, they aren't arguing that the law wasn't violated, because it was, they are arguing that Hillary was not responsible for the material being on the unclassified server.

Seriously, if you're too stupid to understand the actual topic , why are you even posting, go post in the tv forum or something.
hey dude,

you are the one that posted the link to this supposed law that was broken...but FAILED at reading comprehension of the very first sentence of the law.... where was the intent to deliver this top secret info to the enemy kiddo?

that's your problem, not mine or Hillary's.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


Show me where in that law intent is required.

Here you go F&B.... right in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the law you just quoted.... I will make it big and BOLD for your blind eyes.... ;)

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,

And here you go, from the same law


(d)
Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or




Now, by law, non secure email addresses are NOT permitted to possess classified material.


So, for the section YOU highlighted, yes intent is required. For the overall law however, no intent is not required.
 
And as mos of the legal experts asked on the topic agree, its a stretch to apply it to a SOS's communication with her own aides, rather than an enemy nation.

You insist you know better.

We'll see what your opinion is worth. Just remember.....I told you so.

You won't quote one single legal expert who says that having classified information on an unclassified email server is not a violation of the law dude. Not one.

It is a matter of record that the law was violated here. That isn't even at question. The question is, Was Hillary at fault, PERIOD. That's the part you don't seem to understand , all the "legal experts" who are defending her, they aren't arguing that the law wasn't violated, because it was, they are arguing that Hillary was not responsible for the material being on the unclassified server.

Seriously, if you're too stupid to understand the actual topic , why are you even posting, go post in the tv forum or something.
hey dude,

you are the one that posted the link to this supposed law that was broken...but FAILED at reading comprehension of the very first sentence of the law.... where was the intent to deliver this top secret info to the enemy kiddo?

that's your problem, not mine or Hillary's.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


Show me where in that law intent is required.

Here you go F&B.... right in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the law you just quoted.... I will make it big and BOLD for your blind eyes.... ;)

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,

And here you go, from the same law


(d)
Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or




Now, by law, non secure email addresses are NOT permitted to possess classified material.


So, for the section YOU highlighted, yes intent is required. For the overall law however, no intent is not required.
I don't know why you and others keep saying she had a nonsecure server? She had a secure server, just like the server used for State department employee emails, but it was an UNCLASSIFIED system, just like State.gov email, that you wanted her to use, was and IS, an UNCLASSIFIED email system.

and here, from again, RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES....of what you posted

delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

The people who sent her the classified info were entitled to receive it, along with herself. (And whatever Blumenthal sent her, was from his own sources not the Intelligence department's T/Secrets.)

ALSO, when it was determined to have T/S information on her computer, her lawyer worked with officials to get her server and memory stick and secure them in his safe as per the govt's instructions until they could retrieve it from him....so she did not fail to deliver her server on demand.
 
You won't quote one single legal expert who says that having classified information on an unclassified email server is not a violation of the law dude. Not one.

It is a matter of record that the law was violated here. That isn't even at question. The question is, Was Hillary at fault, PERIOD. That's the part you don't seem to understand , all the "legal experts" who are defending her, they aren't arguing that the law wasn't violated, because it was, they are arguing that Hillary was not responsible for the material being on the unclassified server.

Seriously, if you're too stupid to understand the actual topic , why are you even posting, go post in the tv forum or something.
hey dude,

you are the one that posted the link to this supposed law that was broken...but FAILED at reading comprehension of the very first sentence of the law.... where was the intent to deliver this top secret info to the enemy kiddo?

that's your problem, not mine or Hillary's.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


Show me where in that law intent is required.

Here you go F&B.... right in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the law you just quoted.... I will make it big and BOLD for your blind eyes.... ;)

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,

And here you go, from the same law


(d)
Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or




Now, by law, non secure email addresses are NOT permitted to possess classified material.


So, for the section YOU highlighted, yes intent is required. For the overall law however, no intent is not required.
I don't know why you and others keep saying she had a nonsecure server? She had a secure server, just like the server used for State department employee emails, but it was an UNCLASSIFIED system, just like State.gov email, that you wanted her to use, was and IS, an UNCLASSIFIED email system.

and here, from again, RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES....of what you posted

delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

The people who sent her the classified info were entitled to receive it, along with herself. (And whatever Blumenthal sent her, was from his own sources not the Intelligence department's T/Secrets.)

ALSO, when it was determined to have T/S information on her computer, her lawyer worked with officials to get her server and memory stick and secure them in his safe as per the govt's instructions until they could retrieve it from him....so she did not fail to deliver her server on demand.



No they were NOT entitled to receive it. That's how it works. You aren't entitled to receive classified material through unapproved means, NO ONE is. The non government server automatically makes you NOT entitled to receive classified emails. And the FBI gives EVERYONE the same spiel when you receive your clearance

And by nonsecure we are talking about nonsecure by law meaning not government authorized.

See, it gets back to you just don't know what you are talking about here.
 
hey dude,

you are the one that posted the link to this supposed law that was broken...but FAILED at reading comprehension of the very first sentence of the law.... where was the intent to deliver this top secret info to the enemy kiddo?

that's your problem, not mine or Hillary's.
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


Show me where in that law intent is required.

Here you go F&B.... right in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the law you just quoted.... I will make it big and BOLD for your blind eyes.... ;)

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,

And here you go, from the same law


(d)
Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or




Now, by law, non secure email addresses are NOT permitted to possess classified material.


So, for the section YOU highlighted, yes intent is required. For the overall law however, no intent is not required.
I don't know why you and others keep saying she had a nonsecure server? She had a secure server, just like the server used for State department employee emails, but it was an UNCLASSIFIED system, just like State.gov email, that you wanted her to use, was and IS, an UNCLASSIFIED email system.

and here, from again, RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES....of what you posted

delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

The people who sent her the classified info were entitled to receive it, along with herself. (And whatever Blumenthal sent her, was from his own sources not the Intelligence department's T/Secrets.)

ALSO, when it was determined to have T/S information on her computer, her lawyer worked with officials to get her server and memory stick and secure them in his safe as per the govt's instructions until they could retrieve it from him....so she did not fail to deliver her server on demand.



No they were NOT entitled to receive it. That's how it works. You aren't entitled to receive classified material through unapproved means, NO ONE is. The non government server automatically makes you NOT entitled to receive classified emails. And the FBI gives EVERYONE the same spiel when you receive your clearance

And by nonsecure we are talking about nonsecure by law meaning not government authorized.

See, it gets back to you just don't know what you are talking about here.
me thinks you are trying so hard to bull crap your way through this, it's coming out of your eyes.

The law is specific, you fail to comprehend it PURPOSELY, it is clearly right before your eyes to read and it says NOTHING to confirm your made up, assumptions.

DEAL WITH the truth and facts, for a change.... :rolleyes:
 

Here you go F&B.... right in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the law you just quoted.... I will make it big and BOLD for your blind eyes.... ;)

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation,

And here you go, from the same law


(d)
Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or




Now, by law, non secure email addresses are NOT permitted to possess classified material.


So, for the section YOU highlighted, yes intent is required. For the overall law however, no intent is not required.
I don't know why you and others keep saying she had a nonsecure server? She had a secure server, just like the server used for State department employee emails, but it was an UNCLASSIFIED system, just like State.gov email, that you wanted her to use, was and IS, an UNCLASSIFIED email system.

and here, from again, RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES....of what you posted

delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

The people who sent her the classified info were entitled to receive it, along with herself. (And whatever Blumenthal sent her, was from his own sources not the Intelligence department's T/Secrets.)

ALSO, when it was determined to have T/S information on her computer, her lawyer worked with officials to get her server and memory stick and secure them in his safe as per the govt's instructions until they could retrieve it from him....so she did not fail to deliver her server on demand.



No they were NOT entitled to receive it. That's how it works. You aren't entitled to receive classified material through unapproved means, NO ONE is. The non government server automatically makes you NOT entitled to receive classified emails. And the FBI gives EVERYONE the same spiel when you receive your clearance

And by nonsecure we are talking about nonsecure by law meaning not government authorized.

See, it gets back to you just don't know what you are talking about here.
me thinks you are trying so hard to bull crap your way through this, it's coming out of your eyes.

The law is specific, you fail to comprehend it PURPOSELY, it is clearly right before your eyes to read and it says NOTHING to confirm your made up, assumptions.

DEAL WITH the truth and facts, for a change.... :rolleyes:

The truth and fact is that you are a partisan moron.

It is ILLEGAL to transmit classified material through nonsecure (meaning non government) email servers PERIOD.

That is just the bottom line here. No other aspect matters. Before email, it was telephone calls. Believe it or not, I'm old enough to remember the days when I had to find a secure telephone to discuss classified materials with my boss WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY CLEARED TO RECEIVE MY CLASSIFIED materials. Why couldn't I just use an unsecure line? I mean I was calling my boss who was cleared to receive the material either way.

Oh that's fucking right, because transmitting over nonsecure means is ILLEGAL, who I was calling was IRRELEVANT..

This isn't even that hard to figure out. I have ZERO doubt that if Hillary were a Republican you would be on the complete opposite side of this. NONE.

On the other hand, I'm not a partisan idiot, so I don't care where she stands politically. She broke the law PERIOD.
 
To most Democrats, especially in the MSM, Bill Clinton is a 'loveable ole pervert.' But the reality is actually much darker. He's sexually abused young women for many years. He's a devious sex predator like Bill Cosby. And his wife is an accomplice. She's defended him and viciously attacked his numerous victims. They're both very bad people who should be in jail.

Since the 1990's conservative oligarchs have been paying people to come up with salacious stories about the Clintons, without any evidence that any of these things happened. It's pretty clear that Clinton is a serial adulterer, but the stories of his so-called sexual assaults come across as really ham-handed attempts at seduction. And when told "No", he stopped.

The one and only woman who has accused Clinton of rape, has also publicly stated that it never happened. Which is the lie and which is the truth? None of the other women filed suit, laid charges, or filed a complaint at the time.

Monica Lewinsky told friends she was "packing her knee pads" and moving to Washington. Clinton didn't "prey upon a young intern". She was young and foolish, but she was nobody's victim.
 
I hear a fat lady singing.

You're right. The end of the Republican email witchhunt is in sight. It's not ending the way you hope it will.

So far conservative oligarchs are on record as spending 500 million dollars to discredit Clinton. Hiring writers who produce books saying her Foundation is crooked, which the authors themselves admit have been written with NO EVIDENCE OF THE ALLEGATIONS THEY ARE MAKING.

7 Republican Benghazi investigations WITH NO FINDING OF WRONGDOING OR CONSPIRACY ON CLINTON'S PART.

Whitewater, allegations of murder of Vince Foster, allegations of rape and sexual assault, Travelgate. All Republican smears funded by Dark Money.

How long are you going to believe these lies. 20 years of allegations and smears and not ONE CHARGE. Not ONE STAFFER TURNING ON HER. ZIP, NADA NOTHING.

The fat lady sang a long, long time ago. Republicans keep thinking it was for Hillary. It was for them.
 
The one think you haven't done, Hutch, is prove me wrong. I'm still waiting.

I'm waiting for him to do that myself, he hasn't been able to do so, yet.

He can't so he will start diverting or claim false victory. That is the liberal MO.
 

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