FDR cow towed to Stalin and the Russians.

[xyz]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

 

[xyz]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

I never use vulgarity.

If you'd like to discuss moi.....and, possibly, begin a religion based on my life.....let me know.

 

[xyz]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

I never use vulgarity.

If you'd like to discuss moi.....and, possibly, begin a religion based on my life.....let me know.

No, I wasn't saying you use vulgarity. I was referring to Trump. I guess I should taken that last part about you from the quote, sorry.

Not interested in a religion based on your life, unfortunately.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

I never use vulgarity.

If you'd like to discuss moi.....and, possibly, begin a religion based on my life.....let me know.

No, I wasn't saying you use vulgarity. I was referring to Trump. I guess I should taken that last part about you from the quote, sorry.

Not interested in a religion based on your life, unfortunately.

I have a dozen or so posts in this thread discussing the Socialist Savior, Franklin Roosevelt, and the love of communism he brought to America, and the problems he left for Europe.

Should you ever gain enough education to enter that discussion, be sure to let me know.

 

[xyz]

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

I never use vulgarity.

If you'd like to discuss moi.....and, possibly, begin a religion based on my life.....let me know.

No, I wasn't saying you use vulgarity. I was referring to Trump. I guess I should taken that last part about you from the quote, sorry.

Not interested in a religion based on your life, unfortunately.

I have a dozen or so posts in this thread discussing the Socialist Savior, Franklin Roosevelt, and the love of communism he brought to America, and the problems he left for Europe.

Should you ever gain enough education to enter that discussion, be sure to let me know.

I'm not particularly fond that he gave half of Europe to the Russians...

 

[xyz]

On the other hand, it depends what you mean by socialism. I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. That was a given and I would think any other president would have done the same.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

I never use vulgarity.

If you'd like to discuss moi.....and, possibly, begin a religion based on my life.....let me know.

No, I wasn't saying you use vulgarity. I was referring to Trump. I guess I should taken that last part about you from the quote, sorry.

Not interested in a religion based on your life, unfortunately.

I have a dozen or so posts in this thread discussing the Socialist Savior, Franklin Roosevelt, and the love of communism he brought to America, and the problems he left for Europe.

Should you ever gain enough education to enter that discussion, be sure to let me know.

I'm not particularly fond that he gave half of Europe to the Russians...

I'm gonna assume that you are referring to Roosevelt's bow to Stalin, half of Europe.

BTW....Stalin made plans for the other half as well.

Before Hitler attacked Stalin, the plan was for Hitler to do the work of destroying other European governments....
. Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."

Then, Stalin would march in and take over:
When Hitler began his advances on other countries, Stalin refused to join the nations talking of stopping him. Stalin was, in fact, pleased that Hitler was destroying the old order throughout Europe. "There will be no parliaments, no trade unions, no armies, no governments....then Stalin will come as the liberator...millions of people will be sitting in concentration camps, hoping someone will liberate them, then Stalin and the Red Army will come and liberate them. That was his plan." Vladimir Bukovsky.


Of the four dictators of the time, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Roosevelt.....Stalin was by far the most intelligent and insightful....and evil.

We still have his handiwork, the United Nations.

Stalin treated FDR as his vassal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

On the other hand, it depends what you mean by socialism. I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. That was a given and I would think any other president would have done the same.

"...it depends what you mean by socialism..."

No it doesn't.

Jot this down so you don't make that mistake again:

There is hardly 1° of separation between any of these six.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
All favor the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."

 

[PoliticalChic]

On the other hand, it depends what you mean by socialism. I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. That was a given and I would think any other president would have done the same.

" I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. "


That's correct....because he, FDR, hated successful businessmen, and he made that clear from the start.

So, Franklin Roosevelt didn't know jack about business. and, seeing others become successful where he failed, he used his talent in politics to assault them, and take their success away from them.
We see the same motivations in today's Democrat administrations.....'You didn't build that!'



But.....war made FDR into quite a different animal, with a new-found love of the business community. Suddenly....he needed them!

No longer would he refer to their "obeisance to Mammon!" (Roosevelt's Nomination Address, July 2, 1932)



On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”




On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.


a.“…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war.

Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times….

Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.”
On National Defense - May 26, 1940



Took him long enough.

 

[PoliticalChic]

On the other hand, it depends what you mean by socialism. I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. That was a given and I would think any other president would have done the same.

"I would think any other president would have done the same"

But he didn't anticipate the war....he applauded Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler, and thought the problem would disappear.

FDR wouldn't have been in that position had he been a wiser man.
He never anticipated having to fight one of his idols.


"...the Republicans fought FDR and his preparations."



"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
PolitiFact - U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48

 

[Pogo]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

It's her bullshit way of trying to control dialogue. Wants to limit vocabularies because she knows she's losing.

Fuck that silly shit.

 

[xyz]

I'm gonna assume that you are referring to Roosevelt's bow to Stalin, half of Europe.

BTW....Stalin made plans for the other half as well.

Before Hitler attacked Stalin, the plan was for Hitler to do the work of destroying other European governments....
. Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."

Then, Stalin would march in and take over:
When Hitler began his advances on other countries, Stalin refused to join the nations talking of stopping him. Stalin was, in fact, pleased that Hitler was destroying the old order throughout Europe. "There will be no parliaments, no trade unions, no armies, no governments....then Stalin will come as the liberator...millions of people will be sitting in concentration camps, hoping someone will liberate them, then Stalin and the Red Army will come and liberate them. That was his plan." Vladimir Bukovsky.

They were allies at first.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?



I am never wrong.

Like this guy?

Like no one you've ever met.

I was referring to the vulgarity part...

It's her bullshit way of trying to control dialogue. Wants to limit vocabularies because she knows she's losing.

Fuck that silly shit.

Wash your mouth out, Stinky.

Everything I post is linked, sourced and documented.

And, as you've proven.....I am never wrong.

 

[xyz]

On the other hand, it depends what you mean by socialism. I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. That was a given and I would think any other president would have done the same.

" I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. "


That's correct....because he, FDR, hated successful businessmen, and he made that clear from the start.

So, Franklin Roosevelt didn't know jack about business. and, seeing others become successful where he failed, he used his talent in politics to assault them, and take their success away from them.
We see the same motivations in today's Democrat administrations.....'You didn't build that!'



But.....war made FDR into quite a different animal, with a new-found love of the business community. Suddenly....he needed them!

No longer would he refer to their "obeisance to Mammon!" (Roosevelt's Nomination Address, July 2, 1932)



On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”




On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.


a.“…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war.

Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times….

Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.”
On National Defense - May 26, 1940



Took him long enough.

No, not because he hated business, because that was the only way to win the war. Anyone would have done it, Republican, Democrat. Only someone who wanted to lose the war wouldn't.

 

[Pogo]

At the time, were we newer at this world player thing? Spy agencies and all. Now those organizations are so entrenched in our government that there has to be major influence on our politicians.

FDR had no spy agencies...he invited Stalin's spies into his administration.

After the war, we used former Nazis who had a network of spies in Russia.


"Reinhard Gehlen (3 April 1902 – 8 June 1979) was a German general who served as chief of the Foreign Armies East (FHO) military intelligence unit during World War II, and who later became leader of the Gehlen Organization and the first president of theFederal Intelligence Service (Bundesnachrichtendienst) (BND) during the Cold War. Gehlen is considered one of the most legendary Cold War spymasters."
Reinhard Gehlen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Founded our CIA during the Cold War.

OMFG what a dumbass.

The CIA grew out of the OSS, which was active during WW2. Where the fuck do you think Allen Dulles came from? The friggin' Easter Bunny?

OSS -- Office of Strategic Services. 1942.

Holy SHIT that was bad.

Whenever I force these imbeciles into vulgarity it reveals, that, again, they know I've destroyed 'em.
FDR had no CIA because he counted on his daddy, Joseph Stalin, and didn't believe he needed spies. The only spies FDR had were Stalin's.



As Hitler marched into Poland, Whittaker Chambers arranged a private meeting with Adolf Berle, President Roosevelt’s assistant Sec’y of State. Chambers detailed the Communist espionage network, naming at least two dozen Soviet spies in Roosevelt’s administration, including Alger Hiss. Berle reported this to Roosevelt, who laughed, and told Berle to go f--- himself.
Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaming the Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator, p. 60.

No action was taken, and in fact, Roosevelt promoted Hiss. Almost a decade later, Chambers was called before the HUAC and named Hiss as a Soviet agent. Hiss sued Chambers, at which time Chambers presented “… four notes in Alger Hiss's handwriting, sixty-five typewritten copies of State Department documents and five strips of microfilm, some of which contained photographs of State Department documents. The press came to call these the"PumpkinPapers" Whittaker Chambers - Wikipedia)


Franklin wanted nothing more than to swim with the other sharks....Mussolini, Hitler, and most of all, Stalin.
Roosevelt welcomed Stalin's agents into his administration....had one living in the White House.




See, Stinky....I taught you something else to go with the fact that Jefferson Davis was a Democrat.


Mark it down.

I asked you where the fuck Allen Dulles came from, i.e. started.

You had no answer.

Fatter o' mact you actually POSTED:

At the height of the Cold War in the 1950s, law enforcement and intelligence leaders like J. Edgar Hoover at the F.B.I. and Allen Dulles at the C.I.A.

So he just one day ............................... showed up. Out of nowhere. Poof. No background, no experience, no nothing. He was always there and we have always been at war with Eastasia.

You lose.

Why is it that every lying imbecile needs to use vulgarity when they lose the argument?

Once AGAIN you lying sack of shit:

>> The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was a wartime intelligence agency of the United States during World War II, and a predecessor to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The OSS was formed as an agency of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS)[3] to coordinate espionage activities behind enemy lines for all branches of the United States Armed Forces. Other OSS functions included the use of propaganda, subversion, and post-war planning. << (Wikipedia, the obscure knowledge base unavailable to mendacious dipshits)​

Formed June 13, 1942. And there ain't a damn thing you can do about that.

Now take your lying sack of bullshit and cram it up your mendacious ass.
And if that perturbs your virgin ears, feel free to bite me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm gonna assume that you are referring to Roosevelt's bow to Stalin, half of Europe.

BTW....Stalin made plans for the other half as well.

Before Hitler attacked Stalin, the plan was for Hitler to do the work of destroying other European governments....
. Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."

Then, Stalin would march in and take over:
When Hitler began his advances on other countries, Stalin refused to join the nations talking of stopping him. Stalin was, in fact, pleased that Hitler was destroying the old order throughout Europe. "There will be no parliaments, no trade unions, no armies, no governments....then Stalin will come as the liberator...millions of people will be sitting in concentration camps, hoping someone will liberate them, then Stalin and the Red Army will come and liberate them. That was his plan." Vladimir Bukovsky.

They were allies at first.

Excellent!


Hitler didn't have the supplies nor resources he needed, so August 23, 1939, Soviet Russia' Foreign Minister Molotov signs the Nazi-Soviet Non-aggression Pact while German Foreign Minister Von Ribbentrop and Soviet leader Josef Stalin look on, while standing under a portrait of Lenin –materials to be provided in later economic agreements.

a. "1939- At the same time, Stalin helps supply the German war effort, providing the Nazi regime with oil, wood, copper, manganese ore, rubber, grain, and other resources under a trade agreement between the two nations. Stalin views the war against Germany as a conflict "between two groups of capitalist countries", saying there is "nothing wrong in their having a good fight and weakening each other." Georgy Zhukov hero file | moreorless.net.au

b. September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities. Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.



BTW....the lack of resources is why Hitler attacked Stalin in June....he knew he only had supplies enough for 2-3 months.....plus, he knew he couldn;t defeat Stalin's three best generals: December, January, and February.


No one with a brain imagined that Germany could defeat the Soviet Union.

 

[PoliticalChic]

On the other hand, it depends what you mean by socialism. I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. That was a given and I would think any other president would have done the same.

" I think he pretty much had to redirect the industries to help in the war effort. "


That's correct....because he, FDR, hated successful businessmen, and he made that clear from the start.

So, Franklin Roosevelt didn't know jack about business. and, seeing others become successful where he failed, he used his talent in politics to assault them, and take their success away from them.
We see the same motivations in today's Democrat administrations.....'You didn't build that!'



But.....war made FDR into quite a different animal, with a new-found love of the business community. Suddenly....he needed them!

No longer would he refer to their "obeisance to Mammon!" (Roosevelt's Nomination Address, July 2, 1932)



On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”




On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.


a.“…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war.

Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times….

Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.”
On National Defense - May 26, 1940



Took him long enough.

No, not because he hated business, because that was the only way to win the war. Anyone would have done it, Republican, Democrat. Only someone who wanted to lose the war wouldn't.

Wrong.

FDR was a spiteful, vengeful failed businessman.





Based on the hagiography, one can't help but be surprised at how mediocre young Franklin was at just about everything. Prep school was Groton, college, Harvard....excelling at neither sports nor academics. "I can't understand this thing about Frank. He never amounted to much at school." "BEFORE THE TRUMPET: Young Franklin Roosevelt, 1882-1905," by Geoffrey C. Ward,, p. 180-181


a. A 'C to C+' student; not much for homework, study, or research....but he focused on social-political clubs, debates and journalism.

b. Not the only rejection, but a significant one, was his attempt to join Porcellian, the oldest and most elite social club at Harvard. Theodore Roosevelt and other members of the Roosevelt family belonged to the club, but Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was president of the Harvard Crimson, never managed to be elected a member. At some time, in his late thirties, he told his relative Sheffield Cowles that this had been "the greatest disappointment in his life". Frances Richardson Keller, Fictions of U. S. History : A Theory & Four Illustrations, p. 116.

Porcellian members were future entrepreneurs, businessmen, bankers, and corporate lawyers.
And they had rejected Franklin Roosevelt.

And he never forgot it.

 

[xyz]

I'm gonna assume that you are referring to Roosevelt's bow to Stalin, half of Europe.

BTW....Stalin made plans for the other half as well.

Before Hitler attacked Stalin, the plan was for Hitler to do the work of destroying other European governments....
. Communist party members throughout Europe were ordered to sabotage their nation's forces, and aid the Nazi attackers. The French Communist Party, July 1940: "It is comforting to see workers talking to German soldiers as friends,...'well done, comrades, and keep it up,' ...the brotherhood of man will not be forever a hope, it will become a living reality."

Then, Stalin would march in and take over:
When Hitler began his advances on other countries, Stalin refused to join the nations talking of stopping him. Stalin was, in fact, pleased that Hitler was destroying the old order throughout Europe. "There will be no parliaments, no trade unions, no armies, no governments....then Stalin will come as the liberator...millions of people will be sitting in concentration camps, hoping someone will liberate them, then Stalin and the Red Army will come and liberate them. That was his plan." Vladimir Bukovsky.

They were allies at first.

Excellent!


Hitler didn't have the supplies nor resources he needed, so August 23, 1939, Soviet Russia' Foreign Minister Molotov signs the Nazi-Soviet Non-aggression Pact while German Foreign Minister Von Ribbentrop and Soviet leader Josef Stalin look on, while standing under a portrait of Lenin –materials to be provided in later economic agreements.

a. "1939- At the same time, Stalin helps supply the German war effort, providing the Nazi regime with oil, wood, copper, manganese ore, rubber, grain, and other resources under a trade agreement between the two nations. Stalin views the war against Germany as a conflict "between two groups of capitalist countries", saying there is "nothing wrong in their having a good fight and weakening each other." Georgy Zhukov hero file | moreorless.net.au

b. September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities. Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.



BTW....the lack of resources is why Hitler attacked Stalin in June....he knew he only had supplies enough for 2-3 months.....plus, he knew he couldn;t defeat Stalin's three best generals: December, January, and February.


No one with a brain imagined that Germany could defeat the Soviet Union.

I think they could have if they consolidated their power in Europe and waited. The Germans had better technology, they just didn't have the manpower. Plus Hitler wanted everything and fast, which is why they lost in Russia.

He didn't listen to his generals, and wanted to use all the technology for offense rather than defense, the Me 262s, for example.