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horizontal stress from the vertical columns were transferred via the floor trusses to the outer wall.
you are another fucking moron that thinks everyone with any logic is a government agent. there was no "secret mass murder".
cool 'and' Mr. Fizz cool are two DoD Disinformation Ops (How To Spot + Disinfo Ops Exposed) working 'both' sides of this debate 'and' leading you down endless rabbit holes like there is no tomorrow. However, the typical American is so STUPID (#1-10) that you might be digging around in this DoD Disinformation dodo (pic) forever ...
Hi Mr. Fizz:
you are another fucking moron that thinks everyone with any logic is a government agent. there was no "secret mass murder".
Logic? This is what Mr. Fizz here calls 'logic' (My Flight 93 Topic):
Mr. Fizz calls this 'empty hole' a crashed 100-ton Jetliner!
We 'can' see a little bit of garbage dumped into the little hole that was set on fire, but there is nothing here even remotely resembling the components of a real crashed 100-ton Jetliner! Period.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-IyB24UPss"]This Little Video Clip 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story "Logic" ...[/ame]
This is what Mr. Fizz calls "logic" (my Pentagon Topic) ...
Here again we see another 'empty hole' containing no signs of any crashed 100-ton Jetliner, just like Jamie McIntyre said while standing in front of the Pentagon on 9/11:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_cnFoMHjA"]This News Report 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story 'Logic' ...[/ame]
BTW, the idiots bumping this Topic senselessly have 'no clue' about what they are even talking about (I do = #3). FEMA has to do with Emergency Management, as in mishandling the Katrina Debacle (story). The notion that FEMA can 'deceive' anybody about the WTC Controlled Demolitions (AE911Truth.org) is absolute STUPIDITY (my WTC-7 Topic).
Here is one clue ...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo"]This Is A 'Definite' Controlled Demolition Implosion[/ame]
Mr. Chris
GL,
Terral
horizontal stress from the vertical columns were transferred via the floor trusses to the outer wall.
Show horizontal structure adequate for that. Then show that direct forces causing sway were resisted by needed diagonals.
The official plans, images from ground zero or 9-11 are the only sources good for this.
true enough.agent Fizz has made it perfectly clear in his hundreds of posts of his, that he clearly supports secret methods of mass murder by the government on their own citizens.
you are another fucking moron that thinks everyone with any logic is a government agent. there was no "secret mass murder".If you think this is gypsum, you are not logical.
So how many witnesses can you assemble that saw the muslims killing the 3,000 victims?
The NIST deprival of the plans by FEMA enabled by guiliani and the NYS courts makes it secret.
You enforce it with your refusal to recognize the violations of law and illogical insistence in naming a 400 foot tall structure gypsum fastened to steel core columns, that do not protrude in that photo and are never seen on 9-11.
whats hysterical about disinformation agent specialist Fizz is his moronic logic he has that it doesnt matter that hundreds of architects and engineers dont accept the offical version of the towers collapse or demolition experts either as well,nor first responders or firemen or policemen or witnesses that worked in the towers,what ONLY matters to agent Fizz is what the corporate controlled interest media and the government agencys say? and he says HE has logic?He needs to look in the mirror when calling someone a fucking moron.dont know why you even bother with this moron agent.i dont.
and you tell people its concrete, which is an outright LIE!!!If you think this is gypsum, you are not logical.
its smoke. you cant see what its made out of because ITS FUCKING SMOKE!! i'm sure the steel core with the gypsum is on the other side of the smoke creating that shadow but you cant make it out from this picture clearly.
anyone that says they can see concrete in that photo is a fucking liar.
in new york and new jersey live as it happened? probably several hundred thousand.
if you include watching it live on TV probably over 100 million.
The NIST deprival of the plans by FEMA enabled by guiliani and the NYS courts makes it secret.
You enforce it with your refusal to recognize the violations of law and illogical insistence in naming a 400 foot tall structure gypsum fastened to steel core columns, that do not protrude in that photo and are never seen on 9-11.
another one of your delusional rants that make no sense at all. remember when you were ranting for months... maybe years... that the cause of death on the death certificates was not valid? you never bothered to fucking check what the death certificates actually said. the cause of death was "murder" and it doesnt matter who did it, you fucking deadbeat moron.
now you are going on another delusional rant about FEMA, the NIST and guiliani about some stupid fucking plans or some shit.
who fucking cares? the plans flew into the buildings. they came down. lots of people died. your fucking guiliani tirade is fuckiing moronic. it doesnt change the outcome of what happened. Robertson, the structural engineer, cooperated with both FEMA and the NIST and he had the plans to the buildings. in fact, he had the only set of plans to the buildings that were not located inside the world trade center when it collapsed.
take your anti-psychotics, get a job, pay the $30,000 in child support you owe and try to stay out of jail, ok?
this is your brain
and this is your brain on drugs
All your subterfuge proves is you have no evidence of steel core columns in the core area and that you are working to support the secret methods of mass murder by ad hominum attack.
Hi Mr. Fizz:
you are another fucking moron that thinks everyone with any logic is a government agent. there was no "secret mass murder".
Logic? This is what Mr. Fizz here calls 'logic' (My Flight 93 Topic):
Mr. Fizz calls this 'empty hole' a crashed 100-ton Jetliner!
We 'can' see a little bit of garbage dumped into the little hole that was set on fire, but there is nothing here even remotely resembling the components of a real crashed 100-ton Jetliner! Period.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-IyB24UPss"]This Little Video Clip 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story "Logic" ...[/ame]
This is what Mr. Fizz calls "logic" (my Pentagon Topic) ...
Here again we see another 'empty hole' containing no signs of any crashed 100-ton Jetliner, just like Jamie McIntyre said while standing in front of the Pentagon on 9/11:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_cnFoMHjA"]This News Report 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story 'Logic' ...[/ame]
BTW, the idiots bumping this Topic senselessly have 'no clue' about what they are even talking about (I do = #3). FEMA has to do with Emergency Management, as in mishandling the Katrina Debacle (story). The notion that FEMA can 'deceive' anybody about the WTC Controlled Demolitions (AE911Truth.org) is absolute STUPIDITY (my WTC-7 Topic).
Here is one clue ...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo"]This Is A 'Definite' Controlled Demolition Implosion[/ame]
Mr. Chris
GL,
Terral
great post.
you are another fucking moron that thinks everyone with any logic is a government agent. there was no "secret mass murder".
whats hysterical about disinformation agent specialist Fizz is his moronic logic he has that it doesnt matter that hundreds of architects and engineers dont accept the offical version of the towers collapse or demolition experts either as well,nor first responders or firemen or policemen or witnesses that worked in the towers,what ONLY matters to agent Fizz is what the corporate controlled interest media and the government agencys say? and he says HE has logic?
look terrel, its your chearleader!! doesnt he look cute in his pom-poms and miniskirt.
hundreds of architects and engineers dont accept the official version. the reason it doesnt matter is because there are 1,750,000 architects and engineers and the 950 that signed the petition are insignificant.
do you understand what that means? thats 1,749,050 to 950.
its less than half a tenth of one percent.
its insignificant.
Hi Mr. Fizz:
you are another fucking moron that thinks everyone with any logic is a government agent. there was no "secret mass murder".
Logic? This is what Mr. Fizz here calls 'logic' (My Flight 93 Topic):
Mr. Fizz calls this 'empty hole' a crashed 100-ton Jetliner!
We 'can' see a little bit of garbage dumped into the little hole that was set on fire, but there is nothing here even remotely resembling the components of a real crashed 100-ton Jetliner! Period.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-IyB24UPss"]This Little Video Clip 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story "Logic" ...[/ame]
This is what Mr. Fizz calls "logic" (my Pentagon Topic) ...
Here again we see another 'empty hole' containing no signs of any crashed 100-ton Jetliner, just like Jamie McIntyre said while standing in front of the Pentagon on 9/11:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_cnFoMHjA"]This News Report 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story 'Logic' ...[/ame]
BTW, the idiots bumping this Topic senselessly have 'no clue' about what they are even talking about (I do = #3). FEMA has to do with Emergency Management, as in mishandling the Katrina Debacle (story). The notion that FEMA can 'deceive' anybody about the WTC Controlled Demolitions (AE911Truth.org) is absolute STUPIDITY (my WTC-7 Topic).
Here is one clue ...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo"]This Is A 'Definite' Controlled Demolition Implosion[/ame]
Mr. Chris
GL,
Terral
Dont know about Chris, but agents Fizz and Gam have routinely exposed themselves as the DOD agents they are with not only their constant moronic ramblings that demolitions did not bring the towers down, but yeah in also their hysterical logic they always have when claiming an airliner crashed at that site.lol.
Their explanations for THAT one make me roll on the floor with laughter every time even more so than their moronic ramblings defending the coverup commission that the planes and the fire alone caused the towers collapse.
This post with that link you provided on how to spot a disinformation op agent, totally pinpoints them and describes them to the tee.They hate it that we have seen through their phony cover.
Hi Mr. Fizz:
Logic? This is what Mr. Fizz here calls 'logic' (My Flight 93 Topic):
Mr. Fizz calls this 'empty hole' a crashed 100-ton Jetliner!
We 'can' see a little bit of garbage dumped into the little hole that was set on fire, but there is nothing here even remotely resembling the components of a real crashed 100-ton Jetliner! Period.
This Little Video Clip 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story "Logic" ...
This is what Mr. Fizz calls "logic" (my Pentagon Topic) ...
Here again we see another 'empty hole' containing no signs of any crashed 100-ton Jetliner, just like Jamie McIntyre said while standing in front of the Pentagon on 9/11:
This News Report 'Debunks' Mr. Fizz's Official Cover Story 'Logic' ...
BTW, the idiots bumping this Topic senselessly have 'no clue' about what they are even talking about (I do = #3). FEMA has to do with Emergency Management, as in mishandling the Katrina Debacle (story). The notion that FEMA can 'deceive' anybody about the WTC Controlled Demolitions (AE911Truth.org) is absolute STUPIDITY (my WTC-7 Topic).
Here is one clue ...
This Is A 'Definite' Controlled Demolition Implosion
Mr. Chris
GL,
Terral
Dont know about Chris, but agents Fizz and Gam have routinely exposed themselves as the DOD agents they are with not only their constant moronic ramblings that demolitions did not bring the towers down, but yeah in also their hysterical logic they always have when claiming an airliner crashed at that site.lol.
Their explanations for THAT one make me roll on the floor with laughter every time even more so than their moronic ramblings defending the coverup commission that the planes and the fire alone caused the towers collapse.
This post with that link you provided on how to spot a disinformation op agent, totally pinpoints them and describes them to the tee.They hate it that we have seen through their phony cover.
fizz is a rabid misrepresenter. He tries to represent that I say, "secret mass murder". I do not. I say, secret methods of mass murder
Of course , fo rthis reason they fight hard against the concrete core information because only concrete can be instantly fractured to fall freely, and, that can happen with a relatively small amount of explosives if it is properly placed. They deny so unreasonably that their posts extend well beyond moronic, again probably because that same concrete, can be fractured so totally by a maximized "breaching pressure shockwave" accelerating wildly all the concrete that it is reduced to near particulate origins.
When the concrete does that it is a wave of projectiles that is about 70% solid including hard stone aggregates traveling at about 10,000 foot per second for maybe 40 feet. Imagine what that amount of material traveling at about 3 times the speed of a high powered rifle slug does to the contents of the building. Now the agents reasons for dissing concrete so hard is easily seen. It is a way to feasibly explain the things that happened.
That, ............. is the last f'nnnnnnn thing the perps want. So agents dviot and fizz MUST oppose no matter how stupid they appear.
Agents must oppose any information useful for gaining more truth and justice, particuarly if it explains things too. The fact of the FEMA deception invalidates the cause of death on 3,000 death certificates, meaning an inquiry into the deception and its impact on the analysis of collapse is due to all of us, post haste!
Terral has absolutely presented an image of a hole in the ground. No way can that fact can be disputed. What it means, or how the information is used, I cannot comprehend, ....... and he seems to have no posted any ways the information might be used. Perhaps he's simply hoping someone will want to discuss it with him. Curiously, the perpetrators would much rather people talk about a hole in the ground than any info that might explain things.
fizz is a rabid misrepresenter. He tries to represent that I say, "secret mass murder". I do not. I say, secret methods of mass murder
Of course , for this reason they fight hard against the concrete core information because only concrete can be instantly fractured to fall freely, and, that can happen with a relatively small amount of explosives if it is properly placed. They deny so unreasonably that their posts extend well beyond moronic, again probably because that same concrete, can be fractured so totally by a maximized "breaching pressure shockwave" accelerating wildly all the concrete that it is reduced to near particulate origins.
When the concrete does that it is a wave of projectiles that is about 70% solid including hard stone aggregates traveling at about 10,000 foot per second for maybe 40 feet. Imagine what that amount of material traveling at about 3 times the speed of a high powered rifle slug does to the contents of the building. Now the agents reasons for dissing concrete so hard is easily seen. It is a way to feasibly explain the things that happened.
That, ............. is the last f'nnnnnnn thing the perps want. So agents dviot and fizz MUST oppose no matter how stupid they appear.
Agents must oppose any information useful for gaining more truth and justice, particuarly if it explains things too. The fact of the FEMA deception invalidates the cause of death on 3,000 death certificates, meaning an inquiry into the deception and its impact on the analysis of collapse is due to all of us, post haste!
Terral has absolutely presented an image of a hole in the ground. No way can that fact can be disputed. What it means, or how the information is used, I cannot comprehend, ....... and he seems to have no posted any ways the information might be used. Perhaps he's simply hoping someone will want to discuss it with him. Curiously, the perpetrators would much rather people talk about a hole in the ground than any info that might explain things.
you fucking deadbeat moron. the reason i claim that there was no concrete core is because THERE WAS NO CONCRETE CORE.
Since I can provide independently verified evidence for the concrete core, and you can provide none of that for the steel core columns, you are wrong.
My children have not been abandoned, I've been targeted for severe legal abuse by a municipality seeking to evade compliance with state laws of record keeping and mental health by collusion between them and family law courts. This is a structure that is destroying the American family or on the tail end of it after media manipulation takes its effect.
The fact is I've done a huge favor by exposing the fact that the supreme court wrote district court rules for the 9th circuit that basically remove all Consitutional rights of "access to courts" by pro se plaintiffs via a branching designed to be taken advantage of through "abrogation" by the judicial council. But you don't care about the Constitution or families.
WELFARE FRAUD CREATES CHILD SUPPORT
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802693-post2845.html
CITIZENS OF 9th CIRCUIT DEPRIVED OF DUE PROCESS, PETITION FOR ENBANC HEARING
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802123-post2829.html
MOTION QUASH CONTEMPT, ESTOPPLE
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802288-post2836.html
STOP PAYMENT ON CHECK
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802771-post742.html
SUPREME COURT TRICKERY
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1826942-post3076.html
is absolute STUPIDITY (my WTC-7 Topic).
Since I can provide independently verified evidence for the concrete core, and you can provide none of that for the steel core columns, you are wrong.
My children have not been abandoned, I've been targeted for severe legal abuse by a municipality seeking to evade compliance with state laws of record keeping and mental health by collusion between them and family law courts. This is a structure that is destroying the American family or on the tail end of it after media manipulation takes its effect.
The fact is I've done a huge favor by exposing the fact that the supreme court wrote district court rules for the 9th circuit that basically remove all Consitutional rights of "access to courts" by pro se plaintiffs via a branching designed to be taken advantage of through "abrogation" by the judicial council. But you don't care about the Constitution or families.
WELFARE FRAUD CREATES CHILD SUPPORT
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802693-post2845.html
CITIZENS OF 9th CIRCUIT DEPRIVED OF DUE PROCESS, PETITION FOR ENBANC HEARING
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802123-post2829.html
MOTION QUASH CONTEMPT, ESTOPPLE
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802288-post2836.html
STOP PAYMENT ON CHECK
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802771-post742.html
SUPREME COURT TRICKERY
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1826942-post3076.html
you cant provide independently verified proof. you link to your own website!!
since you apparently have no idea what evidence is..... i will show you what evidence really looke like.
"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it. The stainless-steel outer ribs are only 22 inches apart, "
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME
since you apparently have no idea what evidence is..... i will show you what evidence really looke like.
"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core,
“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered
