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Fisa documents released. Nunes memo thoroughly discredited.
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We'll, while you stay off topic, we learn more about how an abuse of power by the president leads to more unprecedented abuse by requesting more redaction's of the FISA. I'm wondering, does the Right understand, that by doing this, they taint an investigation, thereby obstructing that investigation? It's almost like the criminals get to investigate themselves to see if they are guilty or not. FISA applications' release tests bounds of protecting FBI sources Nothing this criminal has ever happened this high up, this close to a president. He definitely is desperate. Stealing the evidence to save his own ass is what this is. Grabbing evidence, that hog ties the FBI. This is about as criminal as it gets. He either gets it, or he's going to war with Iran, or do something else crazy. Trump is truly evil, and insane.No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
oreo
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As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.
FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics
Yes smarter people knew that the Nunes memo debunked itself as soon as it came out. Here is an detailed explanation of that regarding Carter Page. Also George Papalopodous's name is mentioned no where in the dossier file.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Sean Hannity, along with all the other prime time soap box operas on FOX NEWS have promoted this conspiracy theory that the Russian investigation was started because of the Dossier file, and a FISA warrant on Carter Page. But their TIME LINE is way off. The Dossier file was given to John McCain who then handed it over to former FBI directors James Comey in late December 2016/early January 2017. Comey started the Russian investigation in July 2016, months before he received the dossier file.
This is the Devin Nunes conspiracy.
It looks like Rod Rosenstein has had enough of the usual suspects of Republican house members who are manufacturing these conspiracy's.
Rosenstein calls for investigation of GOP House intelligence committee. Devin Nunes the target
This article (The Guardian) was confirmed by James Clapper under sworn testimony over a year ago.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with RussiaGCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
James Clapper's testimony on The Guardian article.
Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interferenceFEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies.Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate?YATES: I -- I can't answer that.FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.0LAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.
This is also confirmed in this video.
Basically several different foreign countries were picking up Russian intelligence agents and Trump surrogates in daily routine spying operations of Russian assets since 2015, and that information was then passed onto former FBI director James Comey. Under sworn testimony James Comey stated he started the Russian investigation in July 2016, and it had nothing to do with the Dossier file.
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dudmuck
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Read carefully:No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
According to Robert Deitz, who reviewed manyFISA applications during his time as general counsel at the National Security Agency, there was nothing in the declassified FISA application to show evidence of abuse or misconduct.
"There is absolutely nothing there to criticize," he stressed.
The fact that the source on Carter Page was being paid by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign would not affect the FISA judges' determination, Deitz explained. "Motivation doesn't mean jack," he said. "Your source may hate the guts of the person he's reporting on."
What matters, he continued, is having an intelligence source who has provided reliable information in the past and probable cause to believe an individual is an agent of a foreign power. Because the FISA Court is not a criminal court, the evidence does not have to meet the standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even without the Steele Dossier, the FISA application cites Carter Page's previous interview with an FBI agent, his public statements about his role as an informal adviser to the Kremlin and then-candidate Trump's statements about Page's role as a foreign policy adviser on the campaign.
As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.
FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics
Yes smarter people knew that the Nunes memo debunked itself as soon as it came out. Here is an detailed explanation of that regarding Carter Page. Also George Papalopodous's name is mentioned no where in the dossier file.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Sean Hannity, along with all the other prime time soap box operas on FOX NEWS have promoted this conspiracy theory that the Russian investigation was started because of the Dossier file. But their TIME LINE is way off. The Dossier file was given to John McCain who then handed it over to former FBI directors James Comey in late December 2016/early January 2017. Comey started the Russian investigation in July 2016, months before he received the dossier file.
This is the Devin Nunes conspiracy.
It looks like Rod Rosenstein has had enough of the usual suspects of Republican house members who are manufacturing these conspiracy's.
Rosenstein calls for investigation of GOP House intelligence committee. Devin Nunes the target
This article (The Guardian) was confirmed by James Clapper under sworn testimony over a year ago.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with RussiaGCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
James Clapper's testimony on The Guardian article.
Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interferenceFEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies.Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate?YATES: I -- I can't answer that.FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.0LAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.
This is also confirmed in this video.
Basically several different foreign countries were picking up Russian intelligence agents and Trump surrogates in daily routine spying operations of Russian assets since 2015, and that information was then passed onto former FBI director James Comey.
There are those hold overs who are willfully using distractions to shield themselves from reality by planting unrelated topics as a replacement for their failed arguments.Read carefully:No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
According to Robert Deitz, who reviewed manyFISA applications during his time as general counsel at the National Security Agency, there was nothing in the declassified FISA application to show evidence of abuse or misconduct.
"There is absolutely nothing there to criticize," he stressed.
The fact that the source on Carter Page was being paid by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign would not affect the FISA judges' determination, Deitz explained. "Motivation doesn't mean jack," he said. "Your source may hate the guts of the person he's reporting on."
What matters, he continued, is having an intelligence source who has provided reliable information in the past and probable cause to believe an individual is an agent of a foreign power. Because the FISA Court is not a criminal court, the evidence does not have to meet the standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even without the Steele Dossier, the FISA application cites Carter Page's previous interview with an FBI agent, his public statements about his role as an informal adviser to the Kremlin and then-candidate Trump's statements about Page's role as a foreign policy adviser on the campaign.
Faun
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What about it, raving lunatic?Provide proof with links please?Please elaborate.As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.
FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics
Disregard. BULLSHIT CLAIM by a bullshit person from another bullshit source. You don't pass go nor collect $200, Creepy.
Plus you morons who try to insult me by changing my name are just proving how uneducated you are.
How are we changing your name, creep?
Further, what does that have to do with education? You are a hack, pure and simple. You're a hate filled Communist spewing idiocy from the hate sites. You started a thread crowing about how great it is that the FISA document was released, even though that document confirms that the fabricated Steel Dossier that Hillary bought from the Kremlin was the basis,That is false. The source of the warrant was disclosed by way of Papadopolous. You all keep spinning, and we'll keep spinning you back to nothing; Rep. Adam Schiff: Nunes, Gowdy lied about the F.B.I.Meaning the FISA warrant application is an act of perjury, as even "I'm With HER" Comey acknowledes that the slander was never verified. Further, the FSB failed to disclose that the SOURCE of their warrant was the opposition party and campaign.
Quoting from the actual FISA, I think not. You, Nunes, Gowdy, and all of Trump's butt boys have been made.You seem too dumb to grasp that this is a complete disaster for you Communists, that this establishes collusion between the Obama Regime through a corrupt DOJ and FSB with the Clinton Campaign to rig the presidential election.
Congress is already preparing the subpoena for that corrupt sack of shit Loretta Lynch.
Son, you and Schiff are both fucking liars.
2016 FISA Application on Carter Page
Page 13, you lying pile of shit.
(U) In or about January 2015, Podobnyy, along with Evgeny Buryakov and Igor Sporyshev, were charged by a sealed complaint in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York for violations on 18 U.S.C. §§ 371 and 951 (conspiring to act, and acting as, an unregistered agent of a foreign government). According to the complaint, Buryakov worked in the United States as an agent of the SVR. Specifically, Buryakov operated under non-official cover, posing as an employee in the Manhattan office of a Russian bank. Buryakov worked with two other SVR agents, Podobnyy and Sporyshev, to gather intelligence on behalf of
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easyt65
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"...the National Security Division specifically hid the findings of the January 7, 2016 Inspector General Report – along with knowledge of other violations – from the FISA Court."Read carefully:No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
According to Robert Deitz, who reviewed manyFISA applications during his time as general counsel at the National Security Agency, there was nothing in the declassified FISA application to show evidence of abuse or misconduct.
"There is absolutely nothing there to criticize," he stressed.
The fact that the source on Carter Page was being paid by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign would not affect the FISA judges' determination, Deitz explained. "Motivation doesn't mean jack," he said. "Your source may hate the guts of the person he's reporting on."
What matters, he continued, is having an intelligence source who has provided reliable information in the past and probable cause to believe an individual is an agent of a foreign power. Because the FISA Court is not a criminal court, the evidence does not have to meet the standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even without the Steele Dossier, the FISA application cites Carter Page's previous interview with an FBI agent, his public statements about his role as an informal adviser to the Kremlin and then-candidate Trump's statements about Page's role as a foreign policy adviser on the campaign.
oreo
Gold Member
As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.
FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics
Yes smarter people knew that the Nunes memo debunked itself as soon as it came out. Here is an detailed explanation of that regarding Carter Page. Also George Papalopodous's name is mentioned no where in the dossier file.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Sean Hannity, along with all the other prime time soap box operas on FOX NEWS have promoted this conspiracy theory that the Russian investigation was started because of the Dossier file. But their TIME LINE is way off. The Dossier file was given to John McCain who then handed it over to former FBI directors James Comey in late December 2016/early January 2017. Comey started the Russian investigation in July 2016, months before he received the dossier file.
This is the Devin Nunes conspiracy.
It looks like Rod Rosenstein has had enough of the usual suspects of Republican house members who are manufacturing these conspiracy's.
Rosenstein calls for investigation of GOP House intelligence committee. Devin Nunes the target
This article (The Guardian) was confirmed by James Clapper under sworn testimony over a year ago.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with RussiaGCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
James Clapper's testimony on The Guardian article.
Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interferenceFEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies.Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate?YATES: I -- I can't answer that.FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.0LAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.
This is also confirmed in this video.
Basically several different foreign countries were picking up Russian intelligence agents and Trump surrogates in daily routine spying operations of Russian assets since 2015, and that information was then passed onto former FBI director James Comey.
There are those hold overs who are willfully using distractions to shield themselves from reality by planting unrelated topics as a replacement for their failed arguments.Read carefully:No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
According to Robert Deitz, who reviewed manyFISA applications during his time as general counsel at the National Security Agency, there was nothing in the declassified FISA application to show evidence of abuse or misconduct.
"There is absolutely nothing there to criticize," he stressed.
The fact that the source on Carter Page was being paid by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign would not affect the FISA judges' determination, Deitz explained. "Motivation doesn't mean jack," he said. "Your source may hate the guts of the person he's reporting on."
What matters, he continued, is having an intelligence source who has provided reliable information in the past and probable cause to believe an individual is an agent of a foreign power. Because the FISA Court is not a criminal court, the evidence does not have to meet the standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even without the Steele Dossier, the FISA application cites Carter Page's previous interview with an FBI agent, his public statements about his role as an informal adviser to the Kremlin and then-candidate Trump's statements about Page's role as a foreign policy adviser on the campaign.
I think it's hard for millions to admit they supported and voted for the Russian Manchurian candidate, but they did--
Really a great book to read that ties it all together is this. This would be especially helpful to FOX NEWS watchers who have been getting no news or wholly contorted news. This book follows all other media outlets reporting on the Russian investigation since it's onset.
It reads like a Grisham spy novel--and it's TRUE.
Yes it did change the outcome of the election, and James Clapper agrees with that assessment. Go to this link on this board for the explanation.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election
easyt65
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As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.
FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics
Yes smarter people knew that the Nunes memo debunked itself as soon as it came out. Here is an detailed explanation of that regarding Carter Page. Also George Papalopodous's name is mentioned no where in the dossier file.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Sean Hannity, along with all the other prime time soap box operas on FOX NEWS have promoted this conspiracy theory that the Russian investigation was started because of the Dossier file. But their TIME LINE is way off. The Dossier file was given to John McCain who then handed it over to former FBI directors James Comey in late December 2016/early January 2017. Comey started the Russian investigation in July 2016, months before he received the dossier file.
This is the Devin Nunes conspiracy.
It looks like Rod Rosenstein has had enough of the usual suspects of Republican house members who are manufacturing these conspiracy's.
Rosenstein calls for investigation of GOP House intelligence committee. Devin Nunes the target
This article (The Guardian) was confirmed by James Clapper under sworn testimony over a year ago.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with RussiaGCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
James Clapper's testimony on The Guardian article.
Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interferenceFEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies.Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate?YATES: I -- I can't answer that.FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.0LAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.
This is also confirmed in this video.
Basically several different foreign countries were picking up Russian intelligence agents and Trump surrogates in daily routine spying operations of Russian assets since 2015, and that information was then passed onto former FBI director James Comey.
There are those hold overs who are willfully using distractions to shield themselves from reality by planting unrelated topics as a replacement for their failed arguments.Read carefully:No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
According to Robert Deitz, who reviewed manyFISA applications during his time as general counsel at the National Security Agency, there was nothing in the declassified FISA application to show evidence of abuse or misconduct.
"There is absolutely nothing there to criticize," he stressed.
The fact that the source on Carter Page was being paid by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign would not affect the FISA judges' determination, Deitz explained. "Motivation doesn't mean jack," he said. "Your source may hate the guts of the person he's reporting on."
What matters, he continued, is having an intelligence source who has provided reliable information in the past and probable cause to believe an individual is an agent of a foreign power. Because the FISA Court is not a criminal court, the evidence does not have to meet the standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even without the Steele Dossier, the FISA application cites Carter Page's previous interview with an FBI agent, his public statements about his role as an informal adviser to the Kremlin and then-candidate Trump's statements about Page's role as a foreign policy adviser on the campaign.
I think it's hard for millions to admit they supported and voted for the Russian Manchurian candidate, but they did--
Really a great book to read that ties it all together is this. This would be especially helpful to FOX NEWS watchers who have been getting no news or wholly contorted news. This book follows all other media outlets reporting on the Russian investigation since it's onset.
It reads like a Grisham spy novel--and it's TRUE.
Yes it did change the outcome of the election, and James Clapper agrees with that assessment. Go to this link on this board for the explanation.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election
The WILLING ignorance of traitor-supporting assholes like you never ceases to amaze me ... Despite zero evidence to support the bullshit you continue to parrot - going on 3 years now - and despite the overwhelming evidence of Democrat / Obama administration crime and exposed treason - you continue to brainlessly push their narrative.
Hillary and Democrats rigged primaries, cheated in debates, engaged in election fraud & you accuse Trump of trying to win unfairly. What a f*ing idiot...
airplanemechanic
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Might want to read it yourself, OP. It actually shows that the FBI used the fake dossier to drum up the FISA warrant. That's definitely a violation of the law.
Faun
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Oh? What law was violated?Might want to read it yourself, OP. It actually shows that the FBI used the fake dossier to drum up the FISA warrant. That's definitely a violation of the law.
oreo
Gold Member
As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.
FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics
Yes smarter people knew that the Nunes memo debunked itself as soon as it came out. Here is an detailed explanation of that regarding Carter Page. Also George Papalopodous's name is mentioned no where in the dossier file.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Sean Hannity, along with all the other prime time soap box operas on FOX NEWS have promoted this conspiracy theory that the Russian investigation was started because of the Dossier file. But their TIME LINE is way off. The Dossier file was given to John McCain who then handed it over to former FBI directors James Comey in late December 2016/early January 2017. Comey started the Russian investigation in July 2016, months before he received the dossier file.
This is the Devin Nunes conspiracy.
It looks like Rod Rosenstein has had enough of the usual suspects of Republican house members who are manufacturing these conspiracy's.
Rosenstein calls for investigation of GOP House intelligence committee. Devin Nunes the target
This article (The Guardian) was confirmed by James Clapper under sworn testimony over a year ago.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with RussiaGCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
James Clapper's testimony on The Guardian article.
Full transcript: Sally Yates and James Clapper testify on Russian election interferenceFEINSTEIN: The Guardian has reported that Britain's intelligence service first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious interactions between Trump advisers and Russian intelligence agents. This information was passed on to U.S. intelligence agencies.Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. Is this accurate?YATES: I -- I can't answer that.FEINSTEIN: General Clapper, is that accurate? CLAPPER: Yes, it is and it's also quite sensitive.FEINSTEIN: OK. Let me ask you this.0LAPPER: The specifics are -- are --- are quite sensitive.
This is also confirmed in this video.
Basically several different foreign countries were picking up Russian intelligence agents and Trump surrogates in daily routine spying operations of Russian assets since 2015, and that information was then passed onto former FBI director James Comey.
There are those hold overs who are willfully using distractions to shield themselves from reality by planting unrelated topics as a replacement for their failed arguments.Read carefully:No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
According to Robert Deitz, who reviewed manyFISA applications during his time as general counsel at the National Security Agency, there was nothing in the declassified FISA application to show evidence of abuse or misconduct.
"There is absolutely nothing there to criticize," he stressed.
The fact that the source on Carter Page was being paid by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign would not affect the FISA judges' determination, Deitz explained. "Motivation doesn't mean jack," he said. "Your source may hate the guts of the person he's reporting on."
What matters, he continued, is having an intelligence source who has provided reliable information in the past and probable cause to believe an individual is an agent of a foreign power. Because the FISA Court is not a criminal court, the evidence does not have to meet the standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even without the Steele Dossier, the FISA application cites Carter Page's previous interview with an FBI agent, his public statements about his role as an informal adviser to the Kremlin and then-candidate Trump's statements about Page's role as a foreign policy adviser on the campaign.
I think it's hard for millions to admit they supported and voted for the Russian Manchurian candidate, but they did--
Really a great book to read that ties it all together is this. This would be especially helpful to FOX NEWS watchers who have been getting no news or wholly contorted news. This book follows all other media outlets reporting on the Russian investigation since it's onset.
It reads like a Grisham spy novel--and it's TRUE.
Yes it did change the outcome of the election, and James Clapper agrees with that assessment. Go to this link on this board for the explanation.
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election
The WILLING ignorance of traitor-supporting assholes like you never ceases to amaze me ... Despite zero evidence to support the bullshit you continue to parrot - going on 3 years now - and despite the overwhelming evidence of Democrat / Obama administration crime and exposed treason - you continue to brainlessly push their narrative.
Hillary and Democrats rigged primaries, cheated in debates, engaged in election fraud & you accuse Trump of trying to win unfairly. What a f*ing idiot...
Again, you haven't pulled a single credible link out of your ass to verify anything you just stated. But then again, I wouldn't expect a Russian troll wouid be able to do that.
You've never been able to provide a credible link to anything.
But I can---
Fisa documents released. Nunes memo thoroughly discredited.
Carter Page-Trump campaign adviser-testifies he met with Russian government officials in July 2016.
Mueller already has collusion & obstruction of justice--he's going after this Trump russian mob now.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions may be facing perjury charges.
Do Russian oligarchs own Trump and his empire?
James Clapper book (Facts & Fears) Russia was successful in getting Trump elected.
Most damaging evidence of Russian collusion with Trump campaign released today
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The problem is Sessions has a say in what is redacted. Where the fuck is he? Why isn't he doing his job?We'll, while you stay off topic, we learn more about how an abuse of power by the president leads to more unprecedented abuse by requesting more redaction's of the FISA. I'm wondering, does the Right understand, that by doing this, they taint an investigation, thereby obstructing that investigation? It's almost like the criminals get to investigate themselves to see if they are guilty or not. FISA applications' release tests bounds of protecting FBI sources Nothing this criminal has ever happened this high up, this close to a president. He definitely is desperate. Stealing the evidence to save his own ass is what this is. Grabbing evidence, that hog ties the FBI. This is about as criminal as it gets. He either gets it, or he's going to war with Iran, or do something else crazy. Trump is truly evil, and insane.No lying shithead, with undeniable evidence proving the US IG cited the FBI / NIA definitely DID abuse the FISA Courts.
They illegally acquired FISA Court warrants to conduct their own Watergate.
Valerie
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You'll only confuse them by citing facts....
i might die of shock if i ever see you post any
I just read Trump refused to declassified the FISA doc. What game is he playing? He's making it look like there is something in there he doesn't want people to see.
WHITE HOUSE SPOX: Trump Won't Declassify Carter Page FISA Docs Despite House Intel Request
WHITE HOUSE SPOX: Trump Won't Declassify Carter Page FISA Docs Despite House Intel Request
bripat9643
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The FBI has not said the dossier is phony. That is a lie. They have said, that the parts to the dossier that have been investigated have checked out. You of course are a liar. Some of the dossier's allegations have been corroborated, while others remain unverified[19] or may require access to classified information for verification.[20] In February 2017, some details related to conversations "solely between foreign nationals" were independently verified. Some of those individuals were known to be "heavily involved" in efforts to damage Clinton and help Trump. The conversations "took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier", giving US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of parts of the dossier.[21]Why did they have no credible justification? Because Trump is totally innocent, you fucking dumbass. Even the FBI says the "dossier" is phony. McCabe admitted when he testified before Congress that nothing in it has been verified. That means it's a work of fiction. No matter how hard you try, you can't wash the stink off this turd.Why?Carter Page was being looked at all the way back to 2013. No one knew Trump was running for president at that time. The conclusions by Trump and his Sheep are not only lies, but they resemble arguments coming from total retards. How damn stupid does a person have to be to acknowledge the tweets by Trump, when Trump himself declassified these documents, that, by the way has never been done before? And, Nunes never read them, and then they make up lies as a result? You have to be some more kind of special stupid to go along with that. Get back to planet earth people. Your country needs patriots. Not a bunch of cowards who support pussy grabbers; DOJ releases FISA documents in Russia probeDonald J. Trump
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....and the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account. Source #1 was the major source. Avoided talking about it being the Clinton campaign behind it. Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team. Not about Carter Page..was all about getting Trump.....
4:01 AM - Jul 23, 2018
I have no idea what "being looked at" is supposed to mean, but the first FISA warrant was applied for in the summer of 2016. They had no credible justification.What is your proof that the "dossier" is "phony"?The had a phony dossier concocted by Trump's political opposition.You'll have to prove the "dossier" is "phony" for me to understand what "acceptable behavior" means?Anyone who believes that's acceptable behavior for a federal agency is a scum who belongs in prison.
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And no one conducting this investigation has said he is innocent or guilty. So where and what is your proof? Or are you going to lie about that too?
So unnamed people had conversations that aren't detailed in locations that aren't listed? In other words, nothing. The only claims that have been "verified" are public knowledge that could easily be obtained by reading a newspapers.
Bottom line, you are a douche bag who is lying to support a coup against a lawfully elected president.
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Yes it was, you lying turd. The only other "source" were news articles that obtained their information indirectly from the dossier.Fucking moron, the dossier wasn’t their only source of evidence for probable cause.Carter Page was being looked at all the way back to 2013. No one knew Trump was running for president at that time. The conclusions by Trump and his Sheep are not only lies, but they resemble arguments coming from total retards. How damn stupid does a person have to be to acknowledge the tweets by Trump, when Trump himself declassified these documents, that, by the way has never been done before? And, Nunes never read them, and then they make up lies as a result? You have to be some more kind of special stupid to go along with that. Get back to planet earth people. Your country needs patriots. Not a bunch of cowards who support pussy grabbers; DOJ releases FISA documents in Russia probeDonald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump
....and the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account. Source #1 was the major source. Avoided talking about it being the Clinton campaign behind it. Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team. Not about Carter Page..was all about getting Trump.....
4:01 AM - Jul 23, 2018
I have no idea what "being looked at" is supposed to mean, but the first FISA warrant was applied for in the summer of 2016. They had no credible justification. The had a phony dossier concocted by Trump's political opposition. Anyone who believes that's acceptable behavior for a federal agency is a scum who belongs in prison.
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