Five myths about Libertarianism

[Quantum Windbag]

For the less educated posters on the board, and for the curious.

1. Libertarians are a fringe band of “hippies of the right.”


2. Libertarians don’t care about minorities or the poor.


3. Libertarianism is a boys’ club.


4. Libertarians are pro-drug, pro-abortion and anti-religion.


5. Libertarians are destroying the Republican Party.

Five myths about libertarians - The Washington Post

 

[Boatswain2PA]

#2 and #3 are certainly myths....not so sure about #1, #4, and #5. Ron Paul is kind of a hippie, the "true" libertarians are for drug/abortion/religion rights (ie: the right to have, and the right not to have them), and libertarians are certainly hurting the Republican party by not voting republican.

 

[konradv]

For the less educated posters on the board, and for the curious.

That's the propaganda, isn't it? If you don't go for it, you're "less educated". When the truth is that it just doesn't work. While nearly everyone has libertarian leanings and doesn't like to be told what to do, the truly educated realize, if the more radical elements of libertarianism came to fruition, it would be a disaster on the scale of Marxism.

 

[Oddball]

#2 and #3 are certainly myths....not so sure about #1, #4, and #5. Ron Paul is kind of a hippie, the "true" libertarians are for drug/abortion/religion rights (ie: the right to have, and the right not to have them), and libertarians are certainly hurting the Republican party by not voting republican.

Pure bullshit.

Republicans are hurting the party, by campaigning like libertarians and governing like socialists.....That's no fault of any libertarian.

 

[rightwinger]

Libertarian creed

I got mine.......Fuck the rest of you

 

[Oddball]

For the less educated posters on the board, and for the curious.

That's the propaganda, isn't it? If you don't go for it, you're "less educated". When the truth is that it just doesn't work. While nearly everyone has libertarian leanings and doesn't like to be told what to do, the truly educated realize, if the more radical elements of libertarianism came to fruition, it would be a disaster on the scale of Marxism.

If you don't seek out and discover the real stances of libertarians and the principles behind them, in favor of relying upon propaganda and hyperbole instead, that makes you less educated.

And yes, I'm talking about "you" personally.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

#2 and #3 are certainly myths....not so sure about #1, #4, and #5. Ron Paul is kind of a hippie, the "true" libertarians are for drug/abortion/religion rights (ie: the right to have, and the right not to have them), and libertarians are certainly hurting the Republican party by not voting republican.

So Ron Paul is a hippie, despite being deeply conservative in his personal life. True libertarians understand that there is no libertarian position on abortion, and that there are both pro-life and pro-choice libertarians.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

For the less educated posters on the board, and for the curious.

That's the propaganda, isn't it? If you don't go for it, you're "less educated". When the truth is that it just doesn't work. While nearly everyone has libertarian leanings and doesn't like to be told what to do, the truly educated realize, if the more radical elements of libertarianism came to fruition, it would be a disaster on the scale of Marxism.

The less educated are the idiots who think libertarians are anarchists. The curios are the honest people.

 

[OnePercenter]

Libertarians fail to realize that it's 2013 and everything is more complex than they can understand.

Libertarians fail to understand 'greed'.

Libertarians are the original hypocrites. Their 'god' Ayn who denounced social programs, but used social programs when it was in her best interest. (under an assumed name)

 

[auditor0007]

#2 and #3 are certainly myths....not so sure about #1, #4, and #5. Ron Paul is kind of a hippie, the "true" libertarians are for drug/abortion/religion rights (ie: the right to have, and the right not to have them), and libertarians are certainly hurting the Republican party by not voting republican.

Has little to do with them being pro-abortion, pro drug use, or anti-religion. They just think the government should not be telling people what they can and cannot do.

 

[TheOldSchool]

A libertarian is nothing more than a Republican who just wants to smoke legal weed.

So maybe I should consider switching parties???

 

[OnePercenter]

A libertarian is nothing more than a Republican who just wants to smoke legal weed.

So maybe I should consider switching parties???

Are you hypocrite enough?

 

[TheOldSchool]

A libertarian is nothing more than a Republican who just wants to smoke legal weed.

So maybe I should consider switching parties???

Are you hypocrite enough?

fuckin narc

 

[OnePercenter]

A libertarian is nothing more than a Republican who just wants to smoke legal weed.

So maybe I should consider switching parties???

Are you hypocrite enough?

fuckin narc

If you want to talk-the-talk, you have to walk-the-walk!

 

[Avorysuds]

Libertarian creed

I got mine.......Fuck the rest of you

Progressive Democart 2013 liberal creed

"I won't earn mine.... Fuck the rest of you I'm taking yours!"

Man I love owning you RW.

 

[Avorysuds]

Libertarians fail to realize that it's 2013 and everything is more complex than they can understand.

Libertarians fail to understand 'greed'.

Libertarians are the original hypocrites. Their 'god' Ayn who denounced social programs, but used social programs when it was in her best interest. (under an assumed name)

haha...

k.

BTW, we understand greed very well. We believe in an economic system that is actually structured around one of the core mechanics of a healthy economy, greed. You wish to control greed, and despite the entire history of all human societies that have tried to do so failing, you somehow think "This time... This time we'll get it right and millions won't die and starve due to my arrogance and naive economic polices applied by force."

And do you really want me to point out the hypocrisy of the DNC/GOP and so on? Like, really...

 

[Plasmaball]

#2 and #3 are certainly myths....not so sure about #1, #4, and #5. Ron Paul is kind of a hippie, the "true" libertarians are for drug/abortion/religion rights (ie: the right to have, and the right not to have them), and libertarians are certainly hurting the Republican party by not voting republican.

So Ron Paul is a hippie, despite being deeply conservative in his personal life. True libertarians understand that there is no libertarian position on abortion, and that there are both pro-life and pro-choice libertarians.

I disagree. Liberts fall on the side of less government. So they prefer government not even weigh in on the issue at all. Same for drugs. We are adults, we can make adult choices.
Liberts are about free will....

 

[NYcarbineer]

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2. Libertarians don’t care about minorities or the poor.

This is directly from the Libertarian Party 2012 Platform:

All efforts by government to redistribute wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society.

Since it requires a redistribution of wealth to provide public education to all regardless of their ability to pay,

and since Libertarianism opposes any redistribution of wealth, it is not a myth to say that Libertarians don't care about the poor,

unless you believe that providing an education to the poor regardless of their ability to pay is of no benefit.

This is further indicated by this plank in the Libertarian platform:

2.8 Education

Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. Parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.

Education 'without interference from government' and without any governmental 'redistribution of wealth',

means NO public education. Period. Which thus means education can only be acquired based on one's ability to pay for it.

Platform | Libertarian Party

 

[NYcarbineer]

[/B]4. Libertarians are pro-drug, pro-abortion and anti-religion.

This is from the Libertarian Party Platform on abortion:

1.4 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

That is a statement supporting the right to legal abortion at any time, for any reason, between conception and birth.

I'm sure there's a dance move that anti-abortion Libertarians can provide to claim that the above does not make Libertarianism 'pro-abortion',

and I look forward to seeing it.

 

[editec]

For the less educated posters on the board, and for the curious.

1. Libertarians are a fringe band of “hippies of the right.”


2. Libertarians don’t care about minorities or the poor.


3. Libertarianism is a boys’ club.


4. Libertarians are pro-drug, pro-abortion and anti-religion.


5. Libertarians are destroying the Republican Party.

Five myths about libertarians - The Washington Post

WEll yes and no. Certainly the above five states describe SOME libertarians.

But as the author of the article suggests:

Libertarians are found across the political spectrum and in both major parties.

I think of myself as a Libertarian, for example.

Most of this boards self proclaiming libertarians would probably disagree.

But it is entirely possible to be a SOCIALIST and a Libertian, too.

What is the basic notion of LIBERTARIANISM?

I believe that anyone who wants MINIMUM (but just enough) GOVERNMENT in their lives, is a LIBERTARIAN.

LIBERTARIANS are not anarchists...they believe in government.

So then..its all a question of HOW MUCH government, isn't it?

Libertarianism is a THEME about governance, not a clearly defined set of rule or policies.

In fact a thinking libertarian might object to a policy or law under one circumstance, and support that law or policy under another circumstance.

Why would a thinking libertarian NOT be consistent?

Because REALITY changes the equasion as to what is necessary government.