Immanuel
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So disregarding the many other ways he can express himself outside the workplace (and there are many), you're all right with average everyday people being insulted and degraded by their physician in his office for a vote they cast a year and a half ago because some people call Tea Partiers racist? Am I reading this correctly?
Prove to me that he has insulted his patients.
You might be able to claim that the sign is insulting and I would agree with you in that respect. I would have not chosen his method. However, from the sounds of it, you are insinuating that once they came into his office he queried them and then insulted them. I do not believe that he directed this to his patients. I believe it was meant for the country. He doesn't appear to be very good at getting his message out. So, he's not a good writer. Do we sue him for that? He could have handled this in a much better way. He could have been much more diplomatic, but he wasn't. I guess we should send him to Gitmo for that.
Am I okay with the fact that he chose this method? No, I said that when I first got involved in the two thread, I think it was only two, that involved this discussion.
I, as you, respect his right to do so. I am offended by the reaction some in these threads have taken that would squash his right to do so.
Immie
I agree completely with the bolded parts (easier than typing all that. lol).
I think talking about suing him and sending him to Gitmo comes dangerously close to the freaks who try to claim all "Liberals" are brown shirted statists who worship Obama the Messiah and want to round up people who disagree with them and put them in camps, but I understand from you at least it's hyperbole.
I do think he deliberately set out to ruffle feathers or he would have chosen a different method. I do believe people were insulted or he would not have had patients walk away as he did, at least according to the article. I disagree completely with his methods and I think he's smarter than you give him credit for, we can disagree on that but I do think this was at least partially deliberate as far as the insult to his patients is concerned. Some people simply cannot see past party affiliation to the people who hold the ideas, I guess. Just look around for your proof of that!
I don't want to squash his right to do stuff like this, in fact if he were my doctor I'd rather know how he feels about me before he had his finger in a delicate spot. But I am adamantly opposed to the people who would wrap him in cotton and preach about his "right" to have no consequences for his own choices. It's just as wrong to try to squelch the critics' rights as it is to squelch the doctor's.
However, the only people I recall calling anyone fascists brown shirts in this thread are... well, Ravi is the only one I remember. Not that others haven't, but I remember Ravi, because it was directed at my point of view. I do not believe she was calling me a fascist brown shirt.
Who knows? Maybe some on the right did as well. I'm sure I am not alone when I say that I don't always pay as much attention to those who are arguing the same "side" as I am as I do to those who I am opposing.
I think he deliberately set out to ruffle feathers as well. However, whose feathers? I think it was Congress, the President and those who believe they have the right to dictate to us what we can and cannot do. I think you believe he set out to ruffle the feathers of his patients. I think you are wrong.
I did not say he was not smart. I think he did exactly what he wanted to do and expected to do. He got his point out nationwide.
I think he will suffer consequences. He will probably lose patients. He probably knew that in advance. He is likely to be audited next year too. I hope he thought about that. Hell, he might even be called in front of Congress and have to face the wrath of Congressman Henry Waxman! I think his patients have every right to decide for themselves whether they will remain his patients or not. They can tell him what they think by voting with their cash and more power to them. I do not think he needs to worry about that though.
Immie