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The class was on symbolism.
The entire point of the exercise was that people would object to it - the point of the exercise is that people would hesitate to step on a piece of paper with Jesus written on it - a symbol with no actual religious meaning - because their mind would associate that symbol with what it represents.
It was actually quite a good lesson plan - and if anything, the whole "scandal" about it proved the professor's point.
Except for the fact he kicked out a student. That means the intent was not to cause consternation at all.
We don't know what went on in that classroom, or why the student was suspended. We only have the student's side of the story.
The professor is a "she", by the way.
It's staggeringly unlikely that the kid was suspended because he fulfilled the point of the lesson. It's much more likely that the student reacted in a way that resulted in his suspension.
There's a rumor going around that he threatened the teacher - supposedly coming from other students in the class. I'm not saying those rumors are true - just that there's more to the story than what you guys are publicizing.
The Koran is a religious symbol. A piece of paper with "Jesus" written on it is not.
Are you the one who gets to decide that?
Huh! And here I thought people got to decide things like that for themselves, and millions think the exercise was an outrage. How were you planning on convincing them that the Jesus paper is not a religious symbol? So far, I'd say they've got you wildly outnumbered.
In fact, I'm beginning to lose faith that you really ARE the person who gets to decide about that sort of thing.
Actually, the religions themselves decide that.
What sect of Christianity consecrates pieces of paper with "Jesus" written on them?
there's a lot of assumption right thereThis is not about Christianity whining. The student didn't make any moves until he found out to his surprise he was suspended.
Well, first and foremost, Jesus is a huge prophet in Islam so this isn't just anti Christian, this is anti Islam if one wants to really go at this.
Jesus is a biggie. Every time some one wants to slag Jesus, they're slagging Islam too.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)
Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And it's not the students side of the story for crying out loud. Read the article. The University has apologized and admitted that this was insensitive.
First of all, my point was that the lesson wasn't "anti-religious", in any way. It was a lesson in the power of symbols, and how our brain reacts to them. This thread is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
Does writing Jesus's name on a piece of paper, then stepping on it somehow "hurt" Jesus? Does the piece of paper somehow gain some religious value when Jesus's name is written on it, becoming more than just a piece of paper?
As for the University "apologizing" - I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's a lot more likely that they're "apologizing" for PR reasons than because they actually think anything was wrong.
We only have the student's side of the story in terms of exactly why he was suspended.
I note that you selectively ignored all the posts pointing out that it is NOT just one students claim, the school apologized for the incident, if as you inferred, the Student did something wrong, the school would not have apologized, if as you inferred , the Instructor did not cross a line, the school would not have apologized.
But keep on ignoring the point.
Are you the one who gets to decide that?
Huh! And here I thought people got to decide things like that for themselves, and millions think the exercise was an outrage. How were you planning on convincing them that the Jesus paper is not a religious symbol? So far, I'd say they've got you wildly outnumbered.
In fact, I'm beginning to lose faith that you really ARE the person who gets to decide about that sort of thing.
Actually, the religions themselves decide that.
What sect of Christianity consecrates pieces of paper with "Jesus" written on them?
What atheist sect wants to force religious people to act against their principles?
How stupid are you?
Except for the fact he kicked out a student. That means the intent was not to cause consternation at all.
We don't know what went on in that classroom, or why the student was suspended. We only have the student's side of the story.
The professor is a "she", by the way.
It's staggeringly unlikely that the kid was suspended because he fulfilled the point of the lesson. It's much more likely that the student reacted in a way that resulted in his suspension.
There's a rumor going around that he threatened the teacher - supposedly coming from other students in the class. I'm not saying those rumors are true - just that there's more to the story than what you guys are publicizing.
the professor is a he, dear. Deandre Poole.
School of Communication & Multimedia Studies
He is also the the Democratic vice chair for Palm Beach county.
Scott wants answers on FAU ?Jesus?-stomping controversy | Post on Politics
We don't know what went on in that classroom, or why the student was suspended. We only have the student's side of the story.
The professor is a "she", by the way.
It's staggeringly unlikely that the kid was suspended because he fulfilled the point of the lesson. It's much more likely that the student reacted in a way that resulted in his suspension.
There's a rumor going around that he threatened the teacher - supposedly coming from other students in the class. I'm not saying those rumors are true - just that there's more to the story than what you guys are publicizing.
the professor is a he, dear. Deandre Poole.
School of Communication & Multimedia Studies
He is also the the Democratic vice chair for Palm Beach county.
Scott wants answers on FAU ?Jesus?-stomping controversy | Post on Politics
I already noted my mistake.
What does his vice-chairmanship of the Palm Beach Democratic Party have to do with anything?
Actually, the religions themselves decide that.
What sect of Christianity consecrates pieces of paper with "Jesus" written on them?
What atheist sect wants to force religious people to act against their principles?
How stupid are you?
Is not stepping on a piece of paper with Jesus' name on it a tenet of Christianity?
What part of the bible is that from?
university instructor told students to write the word 'Jesus' on paper, throw it on the floor and stomp on it
What exactly was the professor trying to teach?
Is their apology good enough.... Hell no, someone needs to be fired.
There is absolutely no excuse for this type of behavior from the professor and there is no excuse for the University for backing him up.
The class was on symbolism.
The entire point of the exercise was that people would object to it - the point of the exercise is that people would hesitate to step on a piece of paper with Jesus written on it - a symbol with no actual religious meaning - because their mind would associate that symbol with what it represents.
It was actually quite a good lesson plan - and if anything, the whole "scandal" about it proved the professor's point.
AHHHH, more faux outrage over a Fing piece of paper with a name of a fictional character.
shocker.
The Gov of my beloved state will be ousted ASAP, this guy has screwed the pooch from day one. I understand that he needs to drum up this sort of crud to rally the base. As the base if even having second thoughts about him. Gov Skelator... hahahaha
interesting you state that, we shall see. Seems he has been gaining favor with a quite a few Dems in the last few months here.
The class was on symbolism.
The entire point of the exercise was that people would object to it - the point of the exercise is that people would hesitate to step on a piece of paper with Jesus written on it - a symbol with no actual religious meaning - because their mind would associate that symbol with what it represents.
It was actually quite a good lesson plan - and if anything, the whole "scandal" about it proved the professor's point.
Well, sure. The fact that it is reprehensible to Christians doesn't count at all.
Stepping on the word "Jesus" is "reprehensible to Christians"?
there's a lot of assumption right thereThis is not about Christianity whining. The student didn't make any moves until he found out to his surprise he was suspended.
Well, sure. The fact that it is reprehensible to Christians doesn't count at all.
Stepping on the word "Jesus" is "reprehensible to Christians"?
Yes.
Stepping on the word "Jesus" is "reprehensible to Christians"?
Yes.
It doesn't take much, does it?
Once upon a time, Christians were thrown to the lions. I think that qualifies as horrific.
Now we're supposed to be outraged because students were asked to step on pieces of paper that had the name Jesus written on it?
Are people crazy? Seriously!
Now, if the students would have been thrown to the lions if they refused to comply, then, and ONLY then, would there be a valid complaint.
The Gov of my beloved state will be ousted ASAP, this guy has screwed the pooch from day one. I understand that he needs to drum up this sort of crud to rally the base. As the base if even having second thoughts about him. Gov Skelator... hahahaha
Yes.
It doesn't take much, does it?
Once upon a time, Christians were thrown to the lions. I think that qualifies as horrific.
Now we're supposed to be outraged because students were asked to step on pieces of paper that had the name Jesus written on it?
Are people crazy? Seriously!
Now, if the students would have been thrown to the lions if they refused to comply, then, and ONLY then, would there be a valid complaint.
It doesn't matter what you believe.
It's his faith. If there was a Muslim student in the classroom, he/she would not have stepped on the name of Jesus either considering Jesus is such an important figure in Islam.
The outrage came over the Mormon student going to talk with the Professor's administrator only to find out he'd been suspended.
I'd take action too.
