Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

[Pop23]

Well, apparently there were about 200 types of guns banned the last time. People seemed to get along just fine, though. Based on what Iceberg has said, I guess it shouldn't surprise me.

200 types of rifles banned and it didn't change the crime rate at all.

Mass shootings sure soared after the ban expired. It held the lid on while it lasted.

I hate to tell you this, but what you're arguing doesn't make sense.

Politifact says your so - called "facts" don't hold water. I believe the word they use is FALSE.

Did mass shootings spike 200% since assault weapons ban?

I used to be a lobbyist for the NRA. When the NRA began selling its members out, I left and started looking at the gun issue differently.

In 1989 Patrick Purdy took an AK 47 and killed five children and wounded 32 more on a school playground on my birthday. It became obvious that someone outside the political realm should study this. And, not being satisfied with the bumper sticker slogan solutions of the anti-gun lobby and the NRA on the other side, I took that job.

I've watched the government outlaw fully auto weapons, ban semi-automatic imports, pass the Assault Weapons Ban, pass the wholly unconstitutional Lautenberg Amendment, Pass the Brady Bill (that eviscerated the Fourth Amendment) AND I've even lived through the government passing ex post facto laws - all the while telling us that it was "reasonable gun control" and the left wasn't after the guns.

There is no such thing as "reasonable gun control." The mass shootings could easily be drastically reduced, but both the NRA AND the anti-gun lobby make their money off the rhetoric and neither have any reason to seek out a solution to reduce the actual violence without gun control. Make no mistake about it. Every time one weapon is used more than another, it gives the left a pretext to outlaw firearms. The right, being intimidated by the powerful left ALWAYS compromises and caves.

Nobody gives a rip about saving lives. This is all about control. And, if you outlawed every gun in the country, you'd get worse violence in this country. The left don't get it. We are not Mexico, China or Japan. And we have a guaranteed Right to keep and bear Arms. But, ALL mass shootings have some commonalities. Address those commonalities, fewer people will die and the pretext for gun control disappears.

Alright, you've piqued my interest. Are you willing to share what those commonalities are and how to address them? Fewer people dying is my goal. So how?

Okay, you asked...


SIXTEEN COMMONALITIES OF MASS SHOOTERS

1) MOST are white males between the ages of 18 and 40

2) Most come from a single parent home

3) Those who do live in a traditional mom and pop home are highly dysfunctional homes (parents are drug addicts, alcoholics and / or abusive

4) Mass shooters are obsessed with violence and spend inordinate amounts of time on the Internet on doing something connected with violence

5) Virtually ALL of them have been put on SSRIs

6) None of them were kept under supervised care or in a mental health facility when their propensity to violence was well known

7) A lot of them started out doing great in school and their grades began to drop dramatically

8) Most mass shooters have had the police called to their home numerous times for domestic issues

9) Mass shooters tend to be loners OR they have friends who are equally obsessed with violence

10) Many mass shooters have been suspended from school for something connected to threats and / or violence

11) Many mass shooters have killed small animals simply out of meanness

12) Many mass shooters self medicate and / or go off their medications

13) A lot of mass shooters mix illegal drugs with their legal drugs

14) Some mass shooters have been bullied and / or ridiculed by their peers in school

15) Some mass shooters were humiliated by being rejected when they ask someone out on a date

16) A few mass shooters have friends, but those friends to be much like themselves (think Columbine shooters) and they fit the above categories

If a child meets eight items on that list of commonalities, they will commit a violent act in their lifetime.

Identifying them ahead of time and dealing with them is a longer post... I'm not inclined to write the book on this thread, but if you're ever interested, start a thread.

Just a side note on #5. Of those few that we can't declare were, it's because, in at least some of those, disclosure was simply not made.

 

[Marion Morrison]

God bless that class in FL that sparked this conversation.

 

[Pop23]

No, the mass shooters are.

Yeah, it's a good thing the once of us that were horribly bullied, were also NOT on antidepressants and/or ADHA medications. Hell, there might not be a single person left.

Better Apocalypse through pharmaceuticals is what I say!

I'm not sure where this theory is coming from. I've known plenty of teens and young adults on ADHD and antidepressant medication and they weren't homicidal at all. Sometimes doctors attempt to medicate severe behavior problems that should probably be institutionalized for awhile, and maybe that makes it seem that people on medication go nuts. But I think it's more likely that the "nuts" just won out in those cases.

It is a fact that virtually ALL mass shooters (save of political jihadists) have been under the care of a mental health official - MD / psychologist and / or psychiatrist withing the last year and a half of their shooting and virtually all of them are on SSRIs.

It is really nonsensical question to ask why all people on SSRIs don't commit mass shootings. Hell, why don't all the people who smoke cigarettes get cancer? Why don't everybody that got vaccines during the era when autism exploded have that condition?

In the first place, most people taking SSRIs do not meet the medical requirements to even be put on that drug. Some people are genetically more prone to violence. Some people have multiple disorders. The fact is, we don't treat them. We wait until they screw up and then address their issues. Adding insult to injury, we treat those people by tossing them into prison. And the fact is, for every ONE mentally ill person in a mental health facility, there are more than 10 mentally ill people in prison!

Report: Jails House 10 Times More Mentally Ill Than State Hospitals

So, if you separated the mentally ill from the people who had mild depression, you would have a piece of the answer. And most, if not all, of the mass shooters we've seen (save of political jihadists), were doing things that, once the mass shooting was over, the people will lament and say "I'm not a bit surprised."

So, anti gunners and society, in general, LET their fellow man be put into danger only to lobby for gun control.

Not all people on SSRI's are male. Males are far more violent then females. When a male commits suicide it is normally a violent way, females normally take their lifes via overdose or hanging.

Then there is bullying, combined with the way these SSRIs work on the male brain, and the stress of bullying causes these violent outbursts.

I never claimed that only males take SSRIs. This may very well be too complex a subject to even try and have a social discussion over.

There are a lot of factors - some that cannot be explained, but we can identify eighty five to 90 percent of mass shooters and stop them before they become a problem.

I'm sorry you took it that way, it was not meant that way. It is often asked why males are the only shooters. The reason seems to be that males are prescribed these meds at a disproportionate rate, that these meds react differently in males then females, and males are by nature, more violent then females.

 

[OldLady]

No, the mass shooters are.

Yeah, it's a good thing the once of us that were horribly bullied, were also NOT on antidepressants and/or ADHA medications. Hell, there might not be a single person left.

Better Apocalypse through pharmaceuticals is what I say!

I'm not sure where this theory is coming from. I've known plenty of teens and young adults on ADHD and antidepressant medication and they weren't homicidal at all. Sometimes doctors attempt to medicate severe behavior problems that should probably be institutionalized for awhile, and maybe that makes it seem that people on medication go nuts. But I think it's more likely that the "nuts" just won out in those cases.

No ones making it up:

Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

From the link:

Subsequently, mass shootings and other violent incidents started to be reported. More often than not, the common denominator was that the shooters were on an antidepressant, or withdrawing from one. This is not about an isolated incident or two but numerous shootings. The question is, during the past twenty years is the use of antidepressants here a coincidence or a causation?

There have been too many mass shootings for it just to be a coincidence. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed twelve students and a teacher at Columbine High School. Eric was on Luvox, an antidepressant. The Virginia Tech shooter killed thirty-two people and he was on an antidepressant. While withdrawing from Prozac, Kip Kinkel murdered his mother and stepmother. He then shot twenty-two classmates and killed two. Jason Hoffman wounded five at his high school while he was on Effexor, also an antidepressant. James Holmes opened fire in a Colorado movie theater this past summer and killed twelve people and wounded fifty-eight. He was under the care of a psychiatrist but no information has been released as to what drug he must have been on.

Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids.


My Son came to live with us when he was 15. He was on ADHA meds and was a complete basket case. Angry was not even close to the word anyone would use. Our Doctor weened him from them and within months he became a model young man.

I actually could have seen him go off half cocked one day. If he had been bullied during that time, all bets would have been off.

I understand where you're coming from now, Pop. It is absolutely true that those drugs can have side effects including suicidal/homicidal just-plain-nuts behavior. I saw it happen a couple of times to teen clients that had been switched to one of those anti depressants from the recommended one due to cost (Medicaid didn't want to pay for it). Every psychiatrist who has spoken about school shootings references the common denominator of depresssion; that's no secret and everyone is aware of it. Suicide and homicide are two sides of the same coin. I don't necessarily think the meds alone are the cause, though. The meds are present, if they are present, in an attempt to address the depression or behavior (trauma often manifests as ADHD) and it didn't work. When someone dies of cancer, they have chemo in their system, but the chemo didn't cause the death. You see what I mean?
If Cruz, Lanza and the Columbine shooters were on meds, please link to that.

Yet, per the link, depression rarely causes violence. I think when you medicate a young, not fully developed brain, and that brain is affixed to someone undergoing years of bullying, you then have a recipe for murder.

For all the uproar, there have been how many school shootings involving teens? Three in ten years? Quite rare, I'd say.
Were Cruz, Lanza and the Columbine shooters on meds or coming off meds?

 

[Humorme]

200 types of rifles banned and it didn't change the crime rate at all.

Mass shootings sure soared after the ban expired. It held the lid on while it lasted.

I hate to tell you this, but what you're arguing doesn't make sense.

Politifact says your so - called "facts" don't hold water. I believe the word they use is FALSE.

Did mass shootings spike 200% since assault weapons ban?

I used to be a lobbyist for the NRA. When the NRA began selling its members out, I left and started looking at the gun issue differently.

In 1989 Patrick Purdy took an AK 47 and killed five children and wounded 32 more on a school playground on my birthday. It became obvious that someone outside the political realm should study this. And, not being satisfied with the bumper sticker slogan solutions of the anti-gun lobby and the NRA on the other side, I took that job.

I've watched the government outlaw fully auto weapons, ban semi-automatic imports, pass the Assault Weapons Ban, pass the wholly unconstitutional Lautenberg Amendment, Pass the Brady Bill (that eviscerated the Fourth Amendment) AND I've even lived through the government passing ex post facto laws - all the while telling us that it was "reasonable gun control" and the left wasn't after the guns.

There is no such thing as "reasonable gun control." The mass shootings could easily be drastically reduced, but both the NRA AND the anti-gun lobby make their money off the rhetoric and neither have any reason to seek out a solution to reduce the actual violence without gun control. Make no mistake about it. Every time one weapon is used more than another, it gives the left a pretext to outlaw firearms. The right, being intimidated by the powerful left ALWAYS compromises and caves.

Nobody gives a rip about saving lives. This is all about control. And, if you outlawed every gun in the country, you'd get worse violence in this country. The left don't get it. We are not Mexico, China or Japan. And we have a guaranteed Right to keep and bear Arms. But, ALL mass shootings have some commonalities. Address those commonalities, fewer people will die and the pretext for gun control disappears.

Alright, you've piqued my interest. Are you willing to share what those commonalities are and how to address them? Fewer people dying is my goal. So how?

Okay, you asked...


SIXTEEN COMMONALITIES OF MASS SHOOTERS

1) MOST are white males between the ages of 18 and 40

2) Most come from a single parent home

3) Those who do live in a traditional mom and pop home are highly dysfunctional homes (parents are drug addicts, alcoholics and / or abusive

4) Mass shooters are obsessed with violence and spend inordinate amounts of time on the Internet on doing something connected with violence

5) Virtually ALL of them have been put on SSRIs

6) None of them were kept under supervised care or in a mental health facility when their propensity to violence was well known

7) A lot of them started out doing great in school and their grades began to drop dramatically

8) Most mass shooters have had the police called to their home numerous times for domestic issues

9) Mass shooters tend to be loners OR they have friends who are equally obsessed with violence

10) Many mass shooters have been suspended from school for something connected to threats and / or violence

11) Many mass shooters have killed small animals simply out of meanness

12) Many mass shooters self medicate and / or go off their medications

13) A lot of mass shooters mix illegal drugs with their legal drugs

14) Some mass shooters have been bullied and / or ridiculed by their peers in school

15) Some mass shooters were humiliated by being rejected when they ask someone out on a date

16) A few mass shooters have friends, but those friends to be much like themselves (think Columbine shooters) and they fit the above categories

If a child meets eight items on that list of commonalities, they will commit a violent act in their lifetime.

Identifying them ahead of time and dealing with them is a longer post... I'm not inclined to write the book on this thread, but if you're ever interested, start a thread.

Just a side note on #5. Of those few that we can't declare were, it's because, in at least some of those, disclosure was simply not made.

I have a set of proposals that WILL resolve this issue

 

[Humorme]

Yeah, it's a good thing the once of us that were horribly bullied, were also NOT on antidepressants and/or ADHA medications. Hell, there might not be a single person left.

Better Apocalypse through pharmaceuticals is what I say!

I'm not sure where this theory is coming from. I've known plenty of teens and young adults on ADHD and antidepressant medication and they weren't homicidal at all. Sometimes doctors attempt to medicate severe behavior problems that should probably be institutionalized for awhile, and maybe that makes it seem that people on medication go nuts. But I think it's more likely that the "nuts" just won out in those cases.

No ones making it up:

Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

From the link:

Subsequently, mass shootings and other violent incidents started to be reported. More often than not, the common denominator was that the shooters were on an antidepressant, or withdrawing from one. This is not about an isolated incident or two but numerous shootings. The question is, during the past twenty years is the use of antidepressants here a coincidence or a causation?

There have been too many mass shootings for it just to be a coincidence. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed twelve students and a teacher at Columbine High School. Eric was on Luvox, an antidepressant. The Virginia Tech shooter killed thirty-two people and he was on an antidepressant. While withdrawing from Prozac, Kip Kinkel murdered his mother and stepmother. He then shot twenty-two classmates and killed two. Jason Hoffman wounded five at his high school while he was on Effexor, also an antidepressant. James Holmes opened fire in a Colorado movie theater this past summer and killed twelve people and wounded fifty-eight. He was under the care of a psychiatrist but no information has been released as to what drug he must have been on.

Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids.


My Son came to live with us when he was 15. He was on ADHA meds and was a complete basket case. Angry was not even close to the word anyone would use. Our Doctor weened him from them and within months he became a model young man.

I actually could have seen him go off half cocked one day. If he had been bullied during that time, all bets would have been off.

I understand where you're coming from now, Pop. It is absolutely true that those drugs can have side effects including suicidal/homicidal just-plain-nuts behavior. I saw it happen a couple of times to teen clients that had been switched to one of those anti depressants from the recommended one due to cost (Medicaid didn't want to pay for it). Every psychiatrist who has spoken about school shootings references the common denominator of depresssion; that's no secret and everyone is aware of it. Suicide and homicide are two sides of the same coin. I don't necessarily think the meds alone are the cause, though. The meds are present, if they are present, in an attempt to address the depression or behavior (trauma often manifests as ADHD) and it didn't work. When someone dies of cancer, they have chemo in their system, but the chemo didn't cause the death. You see what I mean?
If Cruz, Lanza and the Columbine shooters were on meds, please link to that.

Yet, per the link, depression rarely causes violence. I think when you medicate a young, not fully developed brain, and that brain is affixed to someone undergoing years of bullying, you then have a recipe for murder.

For all the uproar, there have been how many school shootings involving teens? Three in ten years? Quite rare, I'd say.
Were Cruz, Lanza and the Columbine shooters on meds or coming off meds?

ALL of them were on SSRIs.

 

[Humorme]

Yeah, it's a good thing the once of us that were horribly bullied, were also NOT on antidepressants and/or ADHA medications. Hell, there might not be a single person left.

Better Apocalypse through pharmaceuticals is what I say!

I'm not sure where this theory is coming from. I've known plenty of teens and young adults on ADHD and antidepressant medication and they weren't homicidal at all. Sometimes doctors attempt to medicate severe behavior problems that should probably be institutionalized for awhile, and maybe that makes it seem that people on medication go nuts. But I think it's more likely that the "nuts" just won out in those cases.

It is a fact that virtually ALL mass shooters (save of political jihadists) have been under the care of a mental health official - MD / psychologist and / or psychiatrist withing the last year and a half of their shooting and virtually all of them are on SSRIs.

It is really nonsensical question to ask why all people on SSRIs don't commit mass shootings. Hell, why don't all the people who smoke cigarettes get cancer? Why don't everybody that got vaccines during the era when autism exploded have that condition?

In the first place, most people taking SSRIs do not meet the medical requirements to even be put on that drug. Some people are genetically more prone to violence. Some people have multiple disorders. The fact is, we don't treat them. We wait until they screw up and then address their issues. Adding insult to injury, we treat those people by tossing them into prison. And the fact is, for every ONE mentally ill person in a mental health facility, there are more than 10 mentally ill people in prison!

Report: Jails House 10 Times More Mentally Ill Than State Hospitals

So, if you separated the mentally ill from the people who had mild depression, you would have a piece of the answer. And most, if not all, of the mass shooters we've seen (save of political jihadists), were doing things that, once the mass shooting was over, the people will lament and say "I'm not a bit surprised."

So, anti gunners and society, in general, LET their fellow man be put into danger only to lobby for gun control.

Not all people on SSRI's are male. Males are far more violent then females. When a male commits suicide it is normally a violent way, females normally take their lifes via overdose or hanging.

Then there is bullying, combined with the way these SSRIs work on the male brain, and the stress of bullying causes these violent outbursts.

I never claimed that only males take SSRIs. This may very well be too complex a subject to even try and have a social discussion over.

There are a lot of factors - some that cannot be explained, but we can identify eighty five to 90 percent of mass shooters and stop them before they become a problem.

I'm sorry you took it that way, it was not meant that way. It is often asked why males are the only shooters. The reason seems to be that males are prescribed these meds at a disproportionate rate, that these meds react differently in males then females, and males are by nature, more violent then females.

You're probably mostly right

 

[oreo]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

No one is protesting anyone's right to bear arms--including the March for life protesters. What they're protesting about is the right to own WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. AR-15's AK's etc. etc.

March for life protest March 20, 2018

This went on in 800 cities across the nation.

 

[Pop23]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

No one is protesting anyone's right to bear arms--including the March for life protesters. What they're protesting about is the right to own WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. AR-15's AK's etc. etc.

March for life protest March 20, 2018

Then they, as are you, missing a much larger picture.

Unless we come to grips with THE REASON these shootings are happening now, when they never did before, then banning every gun will not stop the bloodshed in schools.

But that takes thought and REAL action.......

And anyone who posts a meme, instead of actually contributing to a real discussion is beyond help.

Ban all the guns in the entire world. You don't think someone, hyped up on mood altering drugs, that had been bullied for years, and is hell bent on killing his enemies, simply won't jump in the largest truck he knows how to drive and mow his enemy down?

Hell, it would likely be far more effective at killing a larger number than any AR possibly could.

But go along your merry way, you likely like the idea of continued bloodshed.

 

[Pop23]

Mass shootings sure soared after the ban expired. It held the lid on while it lasted.

I hate to tell you this, but what you're arguing doesn't make sense.

Politifact says your so - called "facts" don't hold water. I believe the word they use is FALSE.

Did mass shootings spike 200% since assault weapons ban?

I used to be a lobbyist for the NRA. When the NRA began selling its members out, I left and started looking at the gun issue differently.

In 1989 Patrick Purdy took an AK 47 and killed five children and wounded 32 more on a school playground on my birthday. It became obvious that someone outside the political realm should study this. And, not being satisfied with the bumper sticker slogan solutions of the anti-gun lobby and the NRA on the other side, I took that job.

I've watched the government outlaw fully auto weapons, ban semi-automatic imports, pass the Assault Weapons Ban, pass the wholly unconstitutional Lautenberg Amendment, Pass the Brady Bill (that eviscerated the Fourth Amendment) AND I've even lived through the government passing ex post facto laws - all the while telling us that it was "reasonable gun control" and the left wasn't after the guns.

There is no such thing as "reasonable gun control." The mass shootings could easily be drastically reduced, but both the NRA AND the anti-gun lobby make their money off the rhetoric and neither have any reason to seek out a solution to reduce the actual violence without gun control. Make no mistake about it. Every time one weapon is used more than another, it gives the left a pretext to outlaw firearms. The right, being intimidated by the powerful left ALWAYS compromises and caves.

Nobody gives a rip about saving lives. This is all about control. And, if you outlawed every gun in the country, you'd get worse violence in this country. The left don't get it. We are not Mexico, China or Japan. And we have a guaranteed Right to keep and bear Arms. But, ALL mass shootings have some commonalities. Address those commonalities, fewer people will die and the pretext for gun control disappears.

Alright, you've piqued my interest. Are you willing to share what those commonalities are and how to address them? Fewer people dying is my goal. So how?

Okay, you asked...


SIXTEEN COMMONALITIES OF MASS SHOOTERS

1) MOST are white males between the ages of 18 and 40

2) Most come from a single parent home

3) Those who do live in a traditional mom and pop home are highly dysfunctional homes (parents are drug addicts, alcoholics and / or abusive

4) Mass shooters are obsessed with violence and spend inordinate amounts of time on the Internet on doing something connected with violence

5) Virtually ALL of them have been put on SSRIs

6) None of them were kept under supervised care or in a mental health facility when their propensity to violence was well known

7) A lot of them started out doing great in school and their grades began to drop dramatically

8) Most mass shooters have had the police called to their home numerous times for domestic issues

9) Mass shooters tend to be loners OR they have friends who are equally obsessed with violence

10) Many mass shooters have been suspended from school for something connected to threats and / or violence

11) Many mass shooters have killed small animals simply out of meanness

12) Many mass shooters self medicate and / or go off their medications

13) A lot of mass shooters mix illegal drugs with their legal drugs

14) Some mass shooters have been bullied and / or ridiculed by their peers in school

15) Some mass shooters were humiliated by being rejected when they ask someone out on a date

16) A few mass shooters have friends, but those friends to be much like themselves (think Columbine shooters) and they fit the above categories

If a child meets eight items on that list of commonalities, they will commit a violent act in their lifetime.

Identifying them ahead of time and dealing with them is a longer post... I'm not inclined to write the book on this thread, but if you're ever interested, start a thread.

Just a side note on #5. Of those few that we can't declare were, it's because, in at least some of those, disclosure was simply not made.

I have a set of proposals that WILL resolve this issue

would love to see them. Seems like you and I see the problem and want to stop it.

 

[asaratis]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

Four kids walked out

Why should I be impressed?

They weren't paid to demonstrate.

This is a joke... 200,000 people marched in Washington and you complain that the Media didn't give the same coverage to 75 doing a 20 min walk out...

Seriously..

And your only defense is to claim without any proof that kids were paid by Billionaires to do that... No proof just wild speculation...

The supporters of Little David Hogg in Washington got wall to wall coverage because their agenda fits the liberal media narrative.

Financing the costs of a demonstration by useful idiot students keeps them from having to pay the cost themselves.

The only reason you call yourself a cowboy is that you once bought a cap pistol in a drugstore.

 

[Pop23]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

Four kids walked out

Why should I be impressed?

They weren't paid to demonstrate.

This is a joke... 200,000 people marched in Washington and you complain that the Media didn't give the same coverage to 75 doing a 20 min walk out...

Seriously..

And your only defense is to claim without any proof that kids were paid by Billionaires to do that... No proof just wild speculation...

The supporters of Little David Hogg in Washington got wall to wall coverage because their agenda fits the liberal media narrative.

Financing the costs of a demonstration by useful idiot students keeps them from having to pay the cost themselves.

The only reason you call yourself a cowboy is that you once bought a cap pistol in a drugstore.

And he probably thinks he looks lovely in a pair of chaps.

 

[oreo]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

No one is protesting anyone's right to bear arms--including the March for life protesters. What they're protesting about is the right to own WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. AR-15's AK's etc. etc.

March for life protest March 20, 2018

Then they, as are you, missing a much larger picture.

Unless we come to grips with THE REASON these shootings are happening now, when they never did before, then banning every gun will not stop the bloodshed in schools.

But that takes thought and REAL action.......

And anyone who posts a meme, instead of actually contributing to a real discussion is beyond help.

Ban all the guns in the entire world. You don't think someone, hyped up on mood altering drugs, that had been bullied for years, and is hell bent on killing his enemies, simply won't jump in the largest truck he knows how to drive and mow his enemy down?

Hell, it would likely be far more effective at killing a larger number than any AR possibly could.

But go along your merry way, you likely like the idea of continued bloodshed.

Your let's fix the culture crap is a pile of You don't raise other peoples kids, you have no control over them, neither do teachers, staff, whomever.

Republicans have continually fought every single new gun regulation since they've come into power in 2010.

They have 10 mass murders on their watch. Aurora theater massacre, they did nothing. Virginia Tech, they did nothing. Sandy Hook, they did nothing. San Bernardino, CA, they did nothing, Orlando, Florida, they did nothing, Las Vegas, Nevada, they did nothing, Sutherland Springs, Texas they did nothing. Parkland, Florida, they did nothing. The only thing they'll do is talk about cultural issues & background of the murderer, give out their condolences and hold prayer vigils. That's all they ever do.

1. Republicans repealed the mental health background check that Obama initiated after Sandy Hook as soon as Trump walked into the Oval office.
Trump repeals an Obama regulation keeping guns from people with certain mental health conditions

2. Republicans wouldn't even put people who were on no fly lists and FBI terrorist watch lists on no gun lists, after Obama asked them too. Shortly thereafter, a terrorist who was on a watch list was able to walk into a gun store, load up and killed 49 people in a night club in Orlando, Florida.
Obama: It's 'insane' that people on the 'no-fly' list can buy guns - CNNPolitics
Orlando Gunman Was ‘Cool and Calm’ After Massacre, Police Say

3. Republicans in Colorado even refused to ban the bump stocks that were used in Las Vegas, Nevada. 58 people dead.
House Republicans shy away from action on “bump stocks,” hoping ATF deals with it – The Denver Post

It's because the NRA owns the Republican party.

The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.

'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

If you want common sense gun regulations in this country you'll have to vote for Democrats this coming November.

 

[The Derp]

They also have a fraction of the third world people that we have. As those numbers are increasing so is their violent crime. Whoda think it! It ain't the guns, it's the PEOPLE!

I thought those European countries were being overwhelmed by immigrants?

 

[The Derp]

non sequitur much?

You're the one who started that shit with Prohibition. You opened the "whatabout" floodgates. I've been courteous to not whatabout along with you, but you forced my hand.

Prohibition did nothing but increase government corruption, and kill people in large numbers.

Right but that's alcohol, which people consume; not guns, which people use to kill and/or maim. So two completely different things. Who was it who mentioned non-sequitur? Oh right, that was you.

It did nothing to stop alcohol consumption. Bans never do. Mexico is another one of those countries will all of the laws you want and more. They had 36,000 drug related murders alone. How are them laws working for ya?

Drug murders done with guns they got from the USA. We are the cause of their drug murders and their cartels having that strength. That's what Fast & Furious was all about; to figure out how US guns end up in Mexican Cartels' hands.

 

[westwall]

They also have a fraction of the third world people that we have. As those numbers are increasing so is their violent crime. Whoda think it! It ain't the guns, it's the PEOPLE!

I thought those European countries were being overwhelmed by immigrants?

Overwhelmed? No, but as the numbers have gone up so too has the violent crime rate, and the gun crime rate, in spite of every law you all fantasize about, has skyrocketed.

 

[Pop23]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

No one is protesting anyone's right to bear arms--including the March for life protesters. What they're protesting about is the right to own WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. AR-15's AK's etc. etc.

March for life protest March 20, 2018

Then they, as are you, missing a much larger picture.

Unless we come to grips with THE REASON these shootings are happening now, when they never did before, then banning every gun will not stop the bloodshed in schools.

But that takes thought and REAL action.......

And anyone who posts a meme, instead of actually contributing to a real discussion is beyond help.

Ban all the guns in the entire world. You don't think someone, hyped up on mood altering drugs, that had been bullied for years, and is hell bent on killing his enemies, simply won't jump in the largest truck he knows how to drive and mow his enemy down?

Hell, it would likely be far more effective at killing a larger number than any AR possibly could.

But go along your merry way, you likely like the idea of continued bloodshed.

Your let's fix the culture crap is a pile of You don't raise other peoples kids, you have no control over them, neither do teachers, staff, whomever.

Republicans have continually fought every single new gun regulation since they've come into power in 2010. They have 9 mass murders on their watch.

1. They repealed the mental health background check as soon as Trump walked into the Oval office.
Trump repeals an Obama regulation keeping guns from people with certain mental health conditions

2. They wouldn't even put people who were on no fly lists and FBI terrorist watch lists on no gun lists. Shortly thereafter, a terrorist who was on a watch list was able to walk into a gun store, load up and kill 49 people in a night club in Orlando, Florida.
Obama: It's 'insane' that people on the 'no-fly' list can buy guns - CNNPolitics
Orlando Gunman Was ‘Cool and Calm’ After Massacre, Police Say

3. Republicans in Colorado even refused to ban the bump stocks that were used in Las Vegas, Nevada.
House Republicans shy away from action on “bump stocks,” hoping ATF deals with it – The Denver Post

It's because the NRA owns the Republican party.

The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.

'Thoughts and prayers' — and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

If you want common sense gun regulation in this country you'll have to vote for Democrats this coming November.

Then tell us all YOUR LITTLE SECRET!

Why, when GUNS WERE EVEN MORE AVAILABLE TO KIDS IN THE PAST, have these SHOOTINGS ONLY HAPPENED IN THE PAST TWENTY YEARS!

And how is GUN CONTROL, going to stop a MURDERER from jumping in a car or truck and MOWING DOWN A GROUP OF HIS ENEMY.

Do I need to supply links as to how EFFECTIVE a car or truck is AS A WEAPON!

Jesus H. Christ

THINK

 

[asaratis]

On Friday (March 30), a large group of students from Rockledge High School in Brevard County, Florida, staged a walkout to show their support of the second amendment and the right to bear arms, WFTV.com and Fox News reported.

Florida high school students stage second amendment support walkout

Four kids walked out

Why should I be impressed?

They weren't paid to demonstrate.

This is a joke... 200,000 people marched in Washington and you complain that the Media didn't give the same coverage to 75 doing a 20 min walk out...

Seriously..

And your only defense is to claim without any proof that kids were paid by Billionaires to do that... No proof just wild speculation...

The supporters of Little David Hogg in Washington got wall to wall coverage because their agenda fits the liberal media narrative.

Financing the costs of a demonstration by useful idiot students keeps them from having to pay the cost themselves.

The only reason you call yourself a cowboy is that you once bought a cap pistol in a drugstore.

And he probably thinks he looks lovely in a pair of chaps.

....and his bare ass showing that he's ready for some bareback action .

 

[westwall]

non sequitur much?

You're the one who started that shit with Prohibition. You opened the "whatabout" floodgates. I've been courteous to not whatabout along with you, but you forced my hand.

Prohibition did nothing but increase government corruption, and kill people in large numbers.

Right but that's alcohol, which people consume; not guns, which people use to kill and/or maim. So two completely different things. Who was it who mentioned non-sequitur? Oh right, that was you.

It did nothing to stop alcohol consumption. Bans never do. Mexico is another one of those countries will all of the laws you want and more. They had 36,000 drug related murders alone. How are them laws working for ya?

Drug murders done with guns they got from the USA. We are the cause of their drug murders and their cartels having that strength. That's what Fast & Furious was all about; to figure out how US guns end up in Mexican Cartels' hands.

Wrong, I responded to what Prohibition did, I din't take the discussion in that direction. No, they get the guns from Venezuela. This is well known, but somehow you can't seem to figure it out. Why spend hundreds to thousands of dollars for a rifle from the US, when you can buy a fully automatic machine gun from Venezuela for a third the price?

 

[The Derp]

Perhaps outlawing murder inducing prescription Meds is better than outlawing guns

Legalize pot and you end the opioid epidemic overnight.