Florida Republicans to gun hating doctors mind your own business

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

 

[bripat9643]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

Doctors interrogating their patients isn't speech. It's harassment. If my doctor ever asked me that I'd tell him to fuck off and mind his own business.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

Doctors interrogating their patients isn't speech. It's harassment. If my doctor ever asked me that I'd tell him to fuck off and mind his own business.

actually i have hunted with a couple of my doctors

 

[BULLDOG]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

Don't get me wrong, everybody has a right to feel whatever it is they feel about guns, but it shouldn't be incorporated in your line of work when it involves the public.

 

[BULLDOG]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

Don't get me wrong, everybody has a right to feel whatever it is they feel about guns, but it shouldn't be incorporated in your line of work when it involves the public.

You're a right winger. There is a long list of things you fail to see. Sad for you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

Don't get me wrong, everybody has a right to feel whatever it is they feel about guns, but it shouldn't be incorporated in your line of work when it involves the public.

You're a right winger. There is a long list of things you fail to see. Sad for you.

Good, and I hope the list gets longer.

If you have a political agenda, great. Go to rallies, write an opinion piece to your local newspaper, hand out flyers at the voting places. But what you should not be doing is questioning these kids or their parents about your political concerns. It's not your business.

 

[Preacher]

Bulldog must REALLY want a revolution on his hands here in America.Fine with me. Be pussies like him wanting the cops to protect his ass not gun owners that can defend themselves. Oh and yes any doctor sticks their nose in my business about guns gets told to fuck off...I have done it once in a kinder tone and they never bothered asking again...and my kids don't see a doctor without me or their mother being in the room.

 

[Preacher]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

Does ANYONE need any more proof than this that libtards truly DO NOT give a shit about the constitution?

 

[bripat9643]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

Your Stalinist fantasies are nauseating to observe.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Bulldog must REALLY want a revolution on his hands here in America.Fine with me. Be pussies like him wanting the cops to protect his ass not gun owners that can defend themselves. Oh and yes any doctor sticks their nose in my business about guns gets told to fuck off...I have done it once in a kinder tone and they never bothered asking again...and my kids don't see a doctor without me or their mother being in the room.

That may be your concern, but how many parents let their children be alone with the doctor while they sit in the waiting room? I would be outraged if I found out some doctor was asking questions to my kid about my personal business when it has nothing to do with what I was there for.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Florida Republicans to gun hating doctors mind your own business"

This is unsurprisingly moronic and wrong – there are no 'gun-hating' doctors, it completely misrepresents the issue.

 

[bripat9643]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

Don't get me wrong, everybody has a right to feel whatever it is they feel about guns, but it shouldn't be incorporated in your line of work when it involves the public.

You're a right winger. There is a long list of things you fail to see. Sad for you.

Right. We don't see unicorns or successful liberal social programs.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

Doctors interrogating their patients isn't speech. It's harassment. If my doctor ever asked me that I'd tell him to fuck off and mind his own business.

Interrogating children about their parents' possessions? Try it in front of me, and I'll tell you to mind your own business and find a new doctor. Try to do it without me present, and I'm going to tell everyone you're probably a child-molesting pervert, and find a new doctor.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"Florida Republicans to gun hating doctors mind your own business"

This is unsurprisingly moronic and wrong – there are no 'gun-hating' doctors, it completely misrepresents the issue.

Oh really? So what is the issue with doctors interrogating children about guns in their home if not their personal hatred of them?

 

[bripat9643]

"Florida Republicans to gun hating doctors mind your own business"

This is unsurprisingly moronic and wrong – there are no 'gun-hating' doctors, it completely misrepresents the issue.

Thanks for your knee-jerk response. However, it was unnecessary because we know what you think about any issue before you even post your opinion.

 

[Preacher]

Bulldog must REALLY want a revolution on his hands here in America.Fine with me. Be pussies like him wanting the cops to protect his ass not gun owners that can defend themselves. Oh and yes any doctor sticks their nose in my business about guns gets told to fuck off...I have done it once in a kinder tone and they never bothered asking again...and my kids don't see a doctor without me or their mother being in the room.

That may be your concern, but how many parents let their children be alone with the doctor while they sit in the waiting room? I would be outraged if I found out some doctor was asking questions to my kid about my personal business when it has nothing to do with what I was there for.

I suppose some parents do. We don't. I don't trust people. Not even a doctor. Has served me well to be cautious of people and I will stick with that.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bulldog must REALLY want a revolution on his hands here in America.Fine with me. Be pussies like him wanting the cops to protect his ass not gun owners that can defend themselves. Oh and yes any doctor sticks their nose in my business about guns gets told to fuck off...I have done it once in a kinder tone and they never bothered asking again...and my kids don't see a doctor without me or their mother being in the room.

That may be your concern, but how many parents let their children be alone with the doctor while they sit in the waiting room? I would be outraged if I found out some doctor was asking questions to my kid about my personal business when it has nothing to do with what I was there for.

If I remember correctly, it's actually illegal in my state for a health professional to be alone with minors, not that any health professional with a teaspoon of brains and self-preservation would ever want to, anyway.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bulldog must REALLY want a revolution on his hands here in America.Fine with me. Be pussies like him wanting the cops to protect his ass not gun owners that can defend themselves. Oh and yes any doctor sticks their nose in my business about guns gets told to fuck off...I have done it once in a kinder tone and they never bothered asking again...and my kids don't see a doctor without me or their mother being in the room.

That may be your concern, but how many parents let their children be alone with the doctor while they sit in the waiting room? I would be outraged if I found out some doctor was asking questions to my kid about my personal business when it has nothing to do with what I was there for.

I suppose some parents do. We don't. I don't trust people. Not even a doctor. Has served me well to be cautious of people and I will stick with that.

I would be incredibly suspicious of any doctor who WANTED to be alone with a child, given how vulnerable that makes them to whole reams of accusations, starting with molestation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Bulldog must REALLY want a revolution on his hands here in America.Fine with me. Be pussies like him wanting the cops to protect his ass not gun owners that can defend themselves. Oh and yes any doctor sticks their nose in my business about guns gets told to fuck off...I have done it once in a kinder tone and they never bothered asking again...and my kids don't see a doctor without me or their mother being in the room.

That may be your concern, but how many parents let their children be alone with the doctor while they sit in the waiting room? I would be outraged if I found out some doctor was asking questions to my kid about my personal business when it has nothing to do with what I was there for.

If I remember correctly, it's actually illegal in my state for a health professional to be alone with minors, not that any health professional with a teaspoon of brains and self-preservation would ever want to, anyway.

Agreed. You have to be careful today.