Football Stars Make 2,150 times More Than the Average Worker

[Brain357]

Does the CEO generate more revenue for the team than the team does? You understand that the players are the team that people pay money to see, right? Not the CEO.

I've never shopped somewhere or bought a product based on who the ceo is. Heck Walmart ceo gets paid a lot and I don't shop there. As usual Rottweiler makes no sense.

Actually, that's exactly what you did. Because it was the CEO who decided what products were sold in the store and which weren't. It was the CEO who decided that the store was built in your area or wasn't. Or, at the very least, they hired the people who made those decisions. So you absolutely shopped somewhere or bought a product based on the CEO.

As usual, Brain357 illustrates his ignorance of basic business and simple realities.

People go to see Peyton. Most people don't even know who the ceo is. Sorry, you fail.

 

[Brain357]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

I don't see them as being comparable. The ceo is the boss making lots of money and decides how much the workers should get. Peyton is not the boss and has nothing to do with how much the hot dog guy makes. Also Peyton could get injured in any game and be finished. CEO's seem to work for as long as they want then get a golden parachute deal.

Not only is this sentence formed like it was done by a second grader, the concept behind it is as well. The CEO "decides now much the workers should get"? Really? That's all he does?

Funny, I remember reading a huge article about Steve Jobs at Apple. He decided which products they would make and which they wouldn't. And then he decided every little detail about the product - the dimensions, the color, the features, how it would function, what it would sell for, etc. And then he did the same thing with every store they built. And of course he did all of the decisions regarding the direction of the company like building plants in China because of ignorant liberal tax policies.

But BrainDead357 here gets his views of CEO's from Hollywood comedies like Trading Places and Miracle on 34th Street. He thinks CEO's decide the salaries on January 2nd and then spends the rest of the year in a mahogany office with a roaring fire dining on fine cuisine and smoking expensive cigars while counting their money and laughing at the poor.

Listening to liberal minimum wage workers - who are clearly minimum wage for a reason - cry about CEO's is comical.

I see you missed my point. Peyton is just another employee. The ceo is the boss. Not comparable.

 

[Billo_Really]

I spose you'll have to ask whoever is paying him that much.

That's a cop out!

I think we both know what the answer is?

 

[Billo_Really]

There is no double standard...Manning generates enough revenue to support his income.

Should the hotdog seller generate the same revenue he could get paid the same as Manning.

What revenue does a hedge fund manager generate?

 

[Connery]

There is no double standard...Manning generates enough revenue to support his income.

Should the hotdog seller generate the same revenue he could get paid the same as Manning.

What revenue does a hedge fund manager generate?

Do your research and we can come back to your question.

 

[dblack]

I spose you'll have to ask whoever is paying him that much.

That's a cop out!

I think we both know what the answer is?

It's not a cop out. At all. My point isn't that I. Don't. Know.

And neither do you. But someone does. Someone who has that much money to spend thinks that whatever it is he is doing is worth that much money. So what?

 

[P@triot]

I've never shopped somewhere or bought a product based on who the ceo is. Heck Walmart ceo gets paid a lot and I don't shop there. As usual Rottweiler makes no sense.

Actually, that's exactly what you did. Because it was the CEO who decided what products were sold in the store and which weren't. It was the CEO who decided that the store was built in your area or wasn't. Or, at the very least, they hired the people who made those decisions. So you absolutely shopped somewhere or bought a product based on the CEO.

As usual, Brain357 illustrates his ignorance of basic business and simple realities.

People go to see Peyton. Most people don't even know who the ceo is. Sorry, you fail.

And it was the CEO who makes the decision to bring Peyton Manning in and pay him the salary he makes. And that salary must be less than the revenue generated by Peyton Manning's position.

The only "fail" is your understanding of business. The fact that you people didn't even know why a person is paid what they are paid before I explained it to you is fall down hilarious.

 

[P@triot]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

A hedge fund manager makes $37,000/hr.

What the hell does he do, that is worth that?

What does he do that is "worth" that? He generates more than $37,000 per hour (or he wouldn't be able to make that much - they would go out of business).

Next question?

 

[P@triot]

Watching liberals cry about what other people make is literally amazing to me. It's the ugliest kind of envy. And envy is a deadly sin in the bible.

People like Billy boy are freaking out because they are envious of the success of someone else. And that is just pathetic. Instead of admiring their success and working hard to duplicate (or surpass) it, they throw themselves on the floor and kick & scream about someone else's salary.

Truly pathetic....

 

[Brain357]

Actually, that's exactly what you did. Because it was the CEO who decided what products were sold in the store and which weren't. It was the CEO who decided that the store was built in your area or wasn't. Or, at the very least, they hired the people who made those decisions. So you absolutely shopped somewhere or bought a product based on the CEO.

As usual, Brain357 illustrates his ignorance of basic business and simple realities.

People go to see Peyton. Most people don't even know who the ceo is. Sorry, you fail.

And it was the CEO who makes the decision to bring Peyton Manning in and pay him the salary he makes. And that salary must be less than the revenue generated by Peyton Manning's position.

The only "fail" is your understanding of business. The fact that you people didn't even know why a person is paid what they are paid before I explained it to you is fall down hilarious.

So how are they comparable if some ceo is deciding how much to pay peyton? Peyton doesn't decide how much people are paid. Peyton doesn't show up on a Sunday people notice. Company changes CEOs and nobody notices.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Athletes salaries are ridiculous and out of hand. It's part of why it's so damn expensive to try and take your family to see a game live.

Like CEOs, athletes are being paid the market rate. As long as people pay the prices to attend the games they will continue to pay them those high salaries. Ultimately it will have to peak.

Oh I get it. Doesn't mean they "deserve it" but if they can get it in a capitalistic society, then they have every right to.

At the end of the day, it's really about demonization of Capitalism. There are people hell bent on fundamentally transforming US into a typical Socialist economy that is prevalent throughout the rest of the World.

 

[Brain357]

Watching liberals cry about what other people make is literally amazing to me. It's the ugliest kind of envy. And envy is a deadly sin in the bible.

People like Billy boy are freaking out because they are envious of the success of someone else. And that is just pathetic. Instead of admiring their success and working hard to duplicate (or surpass) it, they throw themselves on the floor and kick & scream about someone else's salary.

Truly pathetic....

Listening to pretend conservatives cheerlead for the rich is truly pathetic.

The walmart ceo pays employees so little they collect welfare. This increases gov spending, yet you praise this guy? Praise him for increasing government and collecting corporate welfare? That's conservative? Meanwhile he makes millions and the Walton's billions.

 

[FJO]

People who bitch about what other people earn/make/deserve are always those who are too lazy, too uneducated and too untalented to earn/make/deserve the compensation earned/made/deserved by those they bitch about.

 

[KissMy]

There is no double standard...Manning generates enough revenue to support his income.

Should the hotdog seller generate the same revenue he could get paid the same as Manning.

The NFL gets over a $Billion of tax payer money every year. That could not happen if they earned their pay.

 

[Brain357]

People who bitch about what other people earn/make/deserve are always those who are too lazy, too uneducated and too untalented to earn/make/deserve the compensation earned/made/deserved by those they bitch about.

Or they believe in small gov and don't think people should get rich on corporate welfare.

 

[Connery]

There is no double standard...Manning generates enough revenue to support his income.

Should the hotdog seller generate the same revenue he could get paid the same as Manning.

The NFL gets over a $Billion of tax payer money every year. That could not happen if they earned their pay.

Define earn

 

[FJO]

People who bitch about what other people earn/make/deserve are always those who are too lazy, too uneducated and too untalented to earn/make/deserve the compensation earned/made/deserved by those they bitch about.

Or they believe in small gov and don't think people should get rich on corporate welfare.

Just a little bit of contradiction there, homes.

The people who believe in small government are the people your ilk despise, you know, Tea Partiers, conservatives and, by and large, Republicans. The same people who believe that what you earn by your work is yours and you know better than the government how to spend it and what you want to get for it.

The people who bitch about so-called corporate welfare - like you and your ilk - have absolutely no qualm about collecting welfare of their own or freeloading on food stamps or cheating on taxes they never paid.

The number of people who get rich on government welfare is far greater than the number of people who get rich on so-called corporate welfare.

 

[KNB]

Watching liberals cry about what other people make is literally amazing to me. It's the ugliest kind of envy. And envy is a deadly sin in the bible.

People like Billy boy are freaking out because they are envious of the success of someone else. And that is just pathetic. Instead of admiring their success and working hard to duplicate (or surpass) it, they throw themselves on the floor and kick & scream about someone else's salary.

Truly pathetic....

Greed is also a deadly sin and most Conservative Christian Republican GOPbaggers don't seem to have any problem with the greed of the super-rich. It is easier to believe that Conservative Christians are envious of the wealthy class' greed and that's why you keep defending them. You want to be as rich as them someday, right? So you can get away with serious crimes, too, right? Look into what HSBC confessed to and then try to say that CEOs and upper management paid themselves what they are worth.

As for "CEOs are paid what they're worth" or whatever nonsense, have you ever heard of the LIBOR rate-fixing scandal? Were the CEOs who were fixing the global financial system for their own profit only paying themselves what they are worth? Or were they just greedy wealthy assholes doing whatever they want to get more money for themselves?
Backgrounder: Understanding the Libor Scandal - Council on Foreign Relations

If you do not actually support rich people's greed then you should be screaming mad about HSBC funding terrorism against our soldiers during war. Despite making so many millions of dollars per year, there isn't a single football player who can ever claim to be "too big to fail".

 

[Luddly Neddite]

 

[Luddly Neddite]

People who bitch about what other people earn/make/deserve are always those who are too lazy, too uneducated and too untalented to earn/make/deserve the compensation earned/made/deserved by those they bitch about.

Or they believe in small gov and don't think people should get rich on corporate welfare.

Just a little bit of contradiction there, homes.

The people who believe in small government are the people your ilk despise, you know, Tea Partiers, conservatives and, by and large, Republicans. The same people who believe that what you earn by your work is yours and you know better than the government how to spend it and what you want to get for it.

The people who bitch about so-called corporate welfare - like you and your ilk - have absolutely no qualm about collecting welfare of their own or freeloading on food stamps or cheating on taxes they never paid.

The number of people who get rich on government welfare is far greater than the number of people who get rich on so-called corporate welfare.

And, I'm sure [MENTION=36693]FJO[/MENTION] will post proof of this ...