Football Stars Make 2,150 times More Than the Average Worker

[Avorysuds]

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[Avorysuds]

Athletes salaries are ridiculous and out of hand. It's part of why it's so damn expensive to try and take your family to see a game live.

I think you should get Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert to show how much they make compared to the janitors in their building.... Theb eat them alive! Yeah!!!! Do eet!

Fuck, you can do the same to Obama... He is making millions since becoming President, wonder if he's working harder than the janitors cleaning up where Obama golfs.

 

[RDD_1210]

Lets not forget our soldiers, who put their lives on the line for little more than 20 grand a year. How does this not piss you off folks?

They aren't as "valuable" as an NFL quarterback or a Fortune 500 CEO.

 

[RDD_1210]

Athletes salaries are ridiculous and out of hand. It's part of why it's so damn expensive to try and take your family to see a game live.

I think you should get Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert to show how much they make compared to the janitors in their building.... Theb eat them alive! Yeah!!!! Do eet!

Fuck, you can do the same to Obama... He is making millions since becoming President, wonder if he's working harder than the janitors cleaning up where Obama golfs.

Let me know when you sober up.

 

[Brain357]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

I don't see them as being comparable. The ceo is the boss making lots of money and decides how much the workers should get. Peyton is not the boss and has nothing to do with how much the hot dog guy makes. Also Peyton could get injured in any game and be finished. CEO's seem to work for as long as they want then get a golden parachute deal.

 

[Clementine]

Athletes salaries are ridiculous and out of hand. It's part of why it's so damn expensive to try and take your family to see a game live.

This may be true, but why are teams willing to pay Manning this much money?

As with anything, it's what the market will bear. People want to go watch Manning make that money and their support makes millions for the owners, so they give him a fair cut of the total profits. I am surprised that liberals haven't demanded that they lower the price of tickets and sports gear so everyone can afford to go and the players would take home less. As it is, the money comes pouring in and the lion's share goes to those responsible for encouraging people to spend their money.

Same with actors. An unknown or B list actor won't get people rushing to the theaters, but the big name can mean a box office smash. So, they get paid according to what they'll bring in.

Same with CEOs who know their shit and manage a business to increase profits.

Such is life. Would we have great athletes, actors and business people willing to go the distance if everyone's wages were capped?

If anyone here has issues with certain people raking in the dough then boycott the sport, the movies, the products or the services that put money in people's pockets. Choose who you want to support. Or not.

Spending your money on most things is volunteer. Forgo sports, movies and other stuff you don't need. Pick brands at the super market that support companies you like.

Only things we have no choice on when it comes to spending our hard earned money are utilities, taxes and health care. No choice on the utility companies in certain areas and definitely no choice anymore with health care. And I did my taxes today and better pay - OR ELSE!

Hard to get upset over some people doing well because of their talent when I am depressed because Uncle Sam has robbed me again. Someone else needs my money more than I do, according to them, so taking out another loan to get my daughter through another semester of college. Ain't it grand that government thinks I have too much, but I have to do everything on credit because I don't have cash laying around the way they think I do.

 

[P@triot]

Athletes salaries are ridiculous and out of hand. It's part of why it's so damn expensive to try and take your family to see a game live.

Like CEOs, athletes are being paid the market rate. As long as people pay the prices to attend the games they will continue to pay them those high salaries. Ultimately it will have to peak.

Oh I get it. Doesn't mean they "deserve it" but if they can get it in a capitalistic society, then they have every right to.

Vintage liberal stupidity here. Who gets to decide the benchmark for "deserves it" [MENTION=23461]RDD_1210[/MENTION]? Your irrational and unhinged ass? Don't worry, I'm not expecting anything that even resembles an intelligent response here.

You have to love the irrational views of socialists!

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Oh I get it. Doesn't mean they "deserve it" but if they can get it in a capitalistic society, then they have every right to.

If someone would you that youd turn it down? Your e full of shit. You wouldnt think twice about it.


and who decides who deserves it? How is that quantified?

Of course I wouldn't turn it down. Did I give the impression that I would. But that doesn't change the fact that the system we've established doesn't put value on HARD work, just work that can make someone else richer. So to look down on the working poor who often work VERY, VERY hard simply because they are poor and to stereotype them as "moochers" or "lazy" isn't fair, because it isn't true.

Peyton's "work" bring income to his boss, so why shouldn't he share in some of it. Can the toilet cleaner claim his work does the same thing?

 

[P@triot]

It absolutely amazes me how liberals in America have no idea what drives salaries.

Folks, Peyton Manning isn't paid $45 million because he can throw a football. And he isn't paid $45 million because he's a "leader". And he isn't even paid $45 million because he helps them win.

Peyton Manning is paid $45 million because he generates revenue for the Denver Broncos. When Peyton Manning is under center, tickets sell out (both home and away). Jerseys sell. Hats sell. Parking sells. Concessions sell.

And that is why a CEO is paid millions while a janitor, teacher, or soldier is not. Because the last three generate no revenue. They are a cost. A necessary cost of course, but a cost nonetheless.

This is business 101 and yet liberals are drooling all over themselves stumped as to why Peyton Manning makes more than a teacher. Good grief is the left shockingly uneducated.

 

[KNB]

It absolutely amazes me how liberals in America have no idea what drives salaries.

Folks, Peyton Manning isn't paid $45 million because he can throw a football. And he isn't paid $45 million because he's a "leader". And he isn't even paid $45 million because he helps them win.

Peyton Manning is paid $45 million because he generates revenue for the Denver Broncos. When Peyton Manning is under center, tickets sell out (both home and away). Jerseys sell. Hats sell. Parking sells. Concessions sell.

And that is why a CEO is paid millions while a janitor, teacher, or soldier is not. Because the last three generate no revenue. They are a cost. A necessary cost of course, but a cost nonetheless.

This is business 101 and yet liberals are drooling all over themselves stumped as to why Peyton Manning makes more than a teacher. Good grief is the left shockingly uneducated.

Does the CEO generate more revenue for the team than the team does? You understand that the players are the team that people pay money to see, right? Not the CEO.

 

[Politico]

Lets not forget our soldiers, who put their lives on the line for little more than 20 grand a year. How does this not piss you off folks?

Because they chose the occupation.

 

[Mac1958]

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Good thread.

Not much pushback from the usual suspects, evidently they don't like the point being made.



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[Brain357]

It absolutely amazes me how liberals in America have no idea what drives salaries.

Folks, Peyton Manning isn't paid $45 million because he can throw a football. And he isn't paid $45 million because he's a "leader". And he isn't even paid $45 million because he helps them win.

Peyton Manning is paid $45 million because he generates revenue for the Denver Broncos. When Peyton Manning is under center, tickets sell out (both home and away). Jerseys sell. Hats sell. Parking sells. Concessions sell.

And that is why a CEO is paid millions while a janitor, teacher, or soldier is not. Because the last three generate no revenue. They are a cost. A necessary cost of course, but a cost nonetheless.

This is business 101 and yet liberals are drooling all over themselves stumped as to why Peyton Manning makes more than a teacher. Good grief is the left shockingly uneducated.

Does the CEO generate more revenue for the team than the team does? You understand that the players are the team that people pay money to see, right? Not the CEO.

I've never shopped somewhere or bought a product based on who the ceo is. Heck Walmart ceo gets paid a lot and I don't shop there. As usual Rottweiler makes no sense.

 

[P@triot]

It absolutely amazes me how liberals in America have no idea what drives salaries.

Folks, Peyton Manning isn't paid $45 million because he can throw a football. And he isn't paid $45 million because he's a "leader". And he isn't even paid $45 million because he helps them win.

Peyton Manning is paid $45 million because he generates revenue for the Denver Broncos. When Peyton Manning is under center, tickets sell out (both home and away). Jerseys sell. Hats sell. Parking sells. Concessions sell.

And that is why a CEO is paid millions while a janitor, teacher, or soldier is not. Because the last three generate no revenue. They are a cost. A necessary cost of course, but a cost nonetheless.

This is business 101 and yet liberals are drooling all over themselves stumped as to why Peyton Manning makes more than a teacher. Good grief is the left shockingly uneducated.

Does the CEO generate more revenue for the team than the team does? You understand that the players are the team that people pay money to see, right? Not the CEO.

You understand that it is the CEO who makes all of the revenue generating decisions (like hiring Peyton Manning or passing on him), right? When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, they went from a bankrupt company to the wealthiest company in America. That wasn't because the liberal janitor did a great job keeping the bathroom's clean.

 

[P@triot]

It absolutely amazes me how liberals in America have no idea what drives salaries.

Folks, Peyton Manning isn't paid $45 million because he can throw a football. And he isn't paid $45 million because he's a "leader". And he isn't even paid $45 million because he helps them win.

Peyton Manning is paid $45 million because he generates revenue for the Denver Broncos. When Peyton Manning is under center, tickets sell out (both home and away). Jerseys sell. Hats sell. Parking sells. Concessions sell.

And that is why a CEO is paid millions while a janitor, teacher, or soldier is not. Because the last three generate no revenue. They are a cost. A necessary cost of course, but a cost nonetheless.

This is business 101 and yet liberals are drooling all over themselves stumped as to why Peyton Manning makes more than a teacher. Good grief is the left shockingly uneducated.

Does the CEO generate more revenue for the team than the team does? You understand that the players are the team that people pay money to see, right? Not the CEO.

I've never shopped somewhere or bought a product based on who the ceo is. Heck Walmart ceo gets paid a lot and I don't shop there. As usual Rottweiler makes no sense.

Actually, that's exactly what you did. Because it was the CEO who decided what products were sold in the store and which weren't. It was the CEO who decided that the store was built in your area or wasn't. Or, at the very least, they hired the people who made those decisions. So you absolutely shopped somewhere or bought a product based on the CEO.

As usual, Brain357 illustrates his ignorance of basic business and simple realities.

 

[KissMy]

Like CEOs, athletes are being paid the market rate. As long as people pay the prices to attend the games they will continue to pay them those high salaries. Ultimately it will have to peak.

It is not the market rate. Sport stadiums are subsidized by tax payers & government conspires with business to keep the average wages low & depend on government. Prior to Repulicans worship of imperialism takeover Phil Robertson decided to hunt ducks instead of being an NFL star.

 

[P@triot]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

I don't see them as being comparable. The ceo is the boss making lots of money and decides how much the workers should get. Peyton is not the boss and has nothing to do with how much the hot dog guy makes. Also Peyton could get injured in any game and be finished. CEO's seem to work for as long as they want then get a golden parachute deal.

Not only is this sentence formed like it was done by a second grader, the concept behind it is as well. The CEO "decides now much the workers should get"? Really? That's all he does?

Funny, I remember reading a huge article about Steve Jobs at Apple. He decided which products they would make and which they wouldn't. And then he decided every little detail about the product - the dimensions, the color, the features, how it would function, what it would sell for, etc. And then he did the same thing with every store they built. And of course he did all of the decisions regarding the direction of the company like building plants in China because of ignorant liberal tax policies.

But BrainDead357 here gets his views of CEO's from Hollywood comedies like Trading Places and Miracle on 34th Street. He thinks CEO's decide the salaries on January 2nd and then spends the rest of the year in a mahogany office with a roaring fire dining on fine cuisine and smoking expensive cigars while counting their money and laughing at the poor.

Listening to liberal minimum wage workers - who are clearly minimum wage for a reason - cry about CEO's is comical.

 

[Billo_Really]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

A hedge fund manager makes $37,000/hr.

What the hell does he do, that is worth that?

 

[dblack]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

A hedge fund manager makes $37,000/hr.

What the hell does he do, that is worth that?

I spose you'll have to ask whoever is paying him that much.

 

[Connery]

I'm not trying to call anyone out here because I think those concerned about CEO pay have nothing but good intentions. However..

Peyton Manning - a guy who throws a leather football around for entertainment, 6 months out of the year - makes about $43 million annually. This is about 2,150 times more than the stadium worker earning $20,000/year, busting his ass up and down the stairs in the heat for minimum wage pay (and dealing with all the drunk idiots in between).

How come I’ve never heard the phrase, does “Peyton work 2,150 times harder than the hot dog guy”? Why are (some) people only upset when it is the CEO of a 900,000 employee company making that $15 million? If anything, I’d be much more ticked about the Peyton situation, given that he – again – only throws a football around for 6 months out of the year in front of a bunch of drunk people.

This thread is just an exploration into the idea of a potential double-standard here...

There is no double standard...Manning generates enough revenue to support his income.

Should the hotdog seller generate the same revenue he could get paid the same as Manning.