For Those Supporting the Portland Arrests... How Quickly the Bundy Group Members Are Forgotten

Lets reverse the question now for those of you who vilified the Bundy's and wanted them locked up why do you not hold those in Portland to the same standard? If you are going call others hypocrities make sure you are not being one yourself first.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases. Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.
Are you trying to sound stupid? You are opposed to the FBI or DEA running operations to enforce federal law without the permission of local politicians? Just because Crazy Nancy says outrageously stupid things, do all Democrats feel obligated to be stupid too?

Did you read what I wrote? No need answer because either you did not or you are pretending to be stupid. I am referring to these particular events, you are stringing out into everything tbe feds/dea does.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases.
Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.
Lets reverse the question now for those of you who vilified the Bundy's and wanted them locked up why do you not hold those in Portland to the same standard? If you are going call others hypocrities make sure you are not being one yourself first.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases. Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.
Are you trying to sound stupid? You are opposed to the FBI or DEA running operations to enforce federal law without the permission of local politicians? Just because Crazy Nancy says outrageously stupid things, do all Democrats feel obligated to be stupid too?

Did you read what I wrote? No need answer because either you did not or you are pretending to be stupid. I am referring to these particular events, you are stringing out into everything tbe feds/dea does.

I am fine with the Feds protecting federal property in both cases.
Iam not fine with feds extending that mission beyond federal property unless in conjunction with local law enforcement and governance.
I read your post and understood it and it is just as stupid this time as it was the last time you posted it. Federal law enforcement officers have never need to work with local governments to enforce federal law in any part of the US. It's not a question of whether it's "fine" with you, it's the law that is embedded in the Supremacy clause of the Constitution.
 
Why was it ok for Trump to pardon the Bundy group members who took over a federal building, but suddenly it is ok to have unmakred federal officers to arrest protesters Trump says are destroying federal property? The Bundy group members did the EXACT same thing and he supported them. It's ALL political.

"In 2016, as a result of their sentencing, Ammon Bundy gathered supporters and took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon. Federal authorities were faced with a 41-day armed standoff which resulted in one fatality. Bundy, who along with others, was acquitted of any charges, saidhe believed the pair of ranchers were victims of federal overreach."

First off i dont think the NWR was a federal building that was being torched or people murdered. The Bundy's were doing what their family had been doing for before you were even born, but Dirty Harry Reid who was selling our Uranium to Russia had to put a stop or he would of been exposed for his dirty dealings allowed by the Clinton Crime Foundation.


Wrong. It was federal land and a federal building.

At 47 seconds into the video on the link, they even say there is no vandalism which is NOT what is going on at the federal courthouse. But to you libfucks, people burning and breaking windows and throwing dangerous items at police just isnt the same as armed civilians who havent fired a shot......

You need to do more research. They destroyed the building and the surrounding area, even digging a new illegal road.

They didnt destroy the building ya fucken idiot.
From the pictures, they left trash behind. Where's the graffiti threatening to kill the police? Where are the burned buildings? Where is the looting?

I blame the feds for not making them pic up after themselves before they were hauled away,and where were their mothers,they'd never stand for this kind of behavior!
Cleanliness is next to Godliness after all.
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.
Portland protesters are using lasers against police officers, and it is feared that three of those so wounded in less than 15 seconds may never see again. Just shootin' the laser gunners sounds good to me.
And those that did that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Should the officer that shot a peaceful protestor in the face, fracturing his skull be prosecuted?
officer shot a peaceful protestor in the face?
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.
Portland protesters are using lasers against police officers, and it is feared that three of those so wounded in less than 15 seconds may never see again. Just shootin' the laser gunners sounds good to me.
And those that did that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Should the officer that shot a peaceful protestor in the face, fracturing his skull be prosecuted?
Was that the peaceful protester the one with the laser gun who went around putting officers' eyes out? Get back to you in a bit.
 
I support the Portland protests and I supported Bundy but this is a legitimate point. Bundy did trash federal property.

But, at the rally's end, Ammon Bundy and an estimated dozen supporters declared they would take up arms and occupy a federal refuge building in protest.

They ended up destroying it.

Armed militia, Bundy brothers take over federal building in rural Oregon

I don’t support either’s destruction of property,but I support their right to protest.
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.
In the Bundy case, that federal property wasnt in jeapordy of being destroyed.

Oh? They caused destruction. Splitting hairs here.
Comparing the Bundy case to a riot is dishonest. They arent remotely the same.
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.
Portland protesters are using lasers against police officers, and it is feared that three of those so wounded in less than 15 seconds may never see again. Just shootin' the laser gunners sounds good to me.
And those that did that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Should the officer that shot a peaceful protestor in the face, fracturing his skull be prosecuted?
officer shot a peaceful protestor in the face?

Yup. He was holding up a boom box, not participating in any violence.

 
Seems like everybody wants a larger federal government, but the only disagreement between either theoretical side is who gets to point the federal gun at whom.

What a sad, sad state of affairs.
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.
In the Bundy case, that federal property wasnt in jeapordy of being destroyed.

Oh? They caused destruction. Splitting hairs here.
Comparing the Bundy case to a riot is dishonest. They arent remotely the same.

Protecting Federal property. Yes. They are.
 
Why was it ok for Trump to pardon the Bundy group members who took over a federal building, but suddenly it is ok to have unmarked federal officers to arrest protesters Trump says are destroying federal property? The Bundy group members did the EXACT same thing and he supported them. It's ALL political.

"In 2016, as a result of their sentencing, Ammon Bundy gathered supporters and took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon. Federal authorities were faced with a 41-day armed standoff which resulted in one fatality. Bundy, who along with others, was acquitted of any charges, saidhe believed the pair of ranchers were victims of federal overreach."

They didn't actually give two shits about the law or the Constitution. To them it's all "us vs them". Nothing more.
 
Why was it ok for Trump to pardon the Bundy group members who took over a federal building, but suddenly it is ok to have unmarked federal officers to arrest protesters Trump says are destroying federal property? The Bundy group members did the EXACT same thing and he supported them. It's ALL political.

"In 2016, as a result of their sentencing, Ammon Bundy gathered supporters and took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon. Federal authorities were faced with a 41-day armed standoff which resulted in one fatality. Bundy, who along with others, was acquitted of any charges, saidhe believed the pair of ranchers were victims of federal overreach."


In all fairness:

"You must have a problem in your mind, if you think that black lives matter is more dangerous than the police"
-- Ammon Bundy

 
Seems like everybody wants a larger federal government, but the only disagreement between either theoretical side is who gets to point the federal gun at whom.

What a sad, sad state of affairs.

That's why I said it is all political. The laws are pretty straight forward and the only difference is who and what the protesters are standing for and who is in power to enforce the laws.
 
Why was it ok for Trump to pardon the Bundy group members who took over a federal building, but suddenly it is ok to have unmarked federal officers to arrest protesters Trump says are destroying federal property? The Bundy group members did the EXACT same thing and he supported them. It's ALL political.

"In 2016, as a result of their sentencing, Ammon Bundy gathered supporters and took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon. Federal authorities were faced with a 41-day armed standoff which resulted in one fatality. Bundy, who along with others, was acquitted of any charges, saidhe believed the pair of ranchers were victims of federal overreach."


In all fairness:

"You must have a problem in your mind, if you think that black lives matter is more dangerous than the police"
-- Ammon Bundy


Informative...oh I miss that button.
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.
In the Bundy case, that federal property wasnt in jeapordy of being destroyed.

Oh? They caused destruction. Splitting hairs here.
Comparing the Bundy case to a riot is dishonest. They arent remotely the same.

Protecting Federal property. Yes. They are.
No, one is a riot threatening destruction, the other is not.
 
I forget ... was Bundy burning down The Target?

Trump didn't send federal officers for burning down a Target, he said it was to protect federal property. Try to keep on subject.

I forget----were the bundy people trashing the lands upon which they had descended? Were people dying daily as a result of the BUNDY GANG?

Yes they trashed the building and there was a shoot out. The reason for the occupation was because the cattle ranchers were setting ILLEGAL fires on the federal grazing lands.

You forget Lew...that was Righteous protest.

ok ----I forget-----what were they righteously protesting? Why were cattle ranchers setting
fires on federal grazing lands----that sounds like a
serious crime to me but not as bad as the urban
nitemare ongoing by BLM

She was being sarcastic.

I got the note of sarcasm-----but still do not see how
the two issues can be conflated

How can you not see it? Trump justified sending the federal troops to PROTECT federal buildings and property.

The Bundy group occupied and damaged federal property, yet Trump pardoned them.

Why was it ok for the Bundy group to occupy and damage federal land and buildings, but he needs to send federal officers to arrest others for doing it in Portland? It's quite simple. Either you say both are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights to protest, OR both are guilty of damaging federal property. The only difference is who the 2 groups are.
Portland protesters are using lasers against police officers, and it is feared that three of those so wounded in less than 15 seconds may never see again. Just shootin' the laser gunners sounds good to me.
And those that did that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Should the officer that shot a peaceful protestor in the face, fracturing his skull be prosecuted?
officer shot a peaceful protestor in the face?

Yup. He was holding up a boom box, not participating in any violence.


That was fucking hilarious!!!!!
I had to watch it three times and I'm going to watch it again!!!
I was waiting to see some blood when they carried him past but there wasn't a drop to be seen.....to bad.
 

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