For those who care about truth - Mohammed DID have a 7 year old wife!!!

[Lakhota]

I just wish finger boy would start screaming sand ******, sand ******, sand ****** and get it off his chest.

 

[Noomi]

Her name was A'isha and no one disputes that she was a child though some sources say she was all of 9. Muslims tell us the marriage was not actually consummated till she was 14 as if they have any way of knowing that.

The great prophet really was a child molester.

How old was Mary when she was married off to the much older Joseph? Not only that, how old was she when she gave birth to a another mans baby?

And you lot sook about Muslims. Fucking idiots.

 

[bripat9643]

Did Muhammad Kill 800-900 Innocent Jews? - Banu Qurayza

What makes Home Page a credible source? It appears to be an what your buddy Polk calls a propaganda mill.

That has all the facts from credible Islamic sources from people who know the best or what happened

ROFL! I quoted the version from credible Islamic sources. All the leading chroniclers of the religion claim the version I posted is correct.

 

[Noomi]

Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades

Christian Atrocities Committed Against Non-Christian Peoples - Creation Spirituality Communities

Violence in the Crusades | Causes, History, and Violence of the Crusades

Christians aren't the equivalent of Mohammed. If Jesus committed such atrocities, you might have a case. We are talking about atrocities ordered or personally committed by the founder of the religion, not atrocities committed by his followers.

How many people did God murder in the Old Testament?

 

[Lakhota]

How many has God killed?

 

[bripat9643]

Did Muhammad Kill 800-900 Innocent Jews? - Banu Qurayza

What makes Home Page a credible source? It appears to be an what your buddy Polk calls a propaganda mill.

That has all the facts from credible Islamic sources from people who know the best or what happened

The Genocide of the Bani Qurayza
This story is by far the bloodiest episode of the period associated with the founding of Islam. It describes the full-scale genocide of a Jewish tribe in Medina. After this event the tribe actually ceased to exist.

http://www.exmuslim.org/genocide of the bani qurayza.html:

The background to the story goes as follows. After Muhammad moved from Mecca to Medina and established himself as a political and military leader, he started to attack the commercial caravans of the Meccans. The first major success was an assault on a caravan that turned into a full-scale war. It is known as the battle of Badr.

In one of their counterattacks to curb the growing threat that Muhammad and the Muslims represented, the Meccans besieged Medina. Muhammad ordered a ditch to be dug around Medina, thus the event went down in history as the “Battle of the Ditch”. It was recorded by Ibn Ishaq in his biography of Muhammad, pages 450 through 483 and in a number of Hadith.

Genocide of the Bani Qurayza

Ibn Ishaq reports on p 464:

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them.

All men (600 to 800) were beheaded. Women and children were forced into slavery. As to how they differentiated a boy (to be enslaved) from a man (to be killed) the following hadith from Abu Dawood 38.4390 explains:

Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: “I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.“

The properties of the tribe were taken as booty. Ibn Ishaq writes on p 466:

Then the apostle divided the property, wives, and children of B. Qurayza among the Muslims, and he made known on that day the shares of horse and men, and took out the fifth. A horseman got three shares, two for the horse and one for his rider. A man without a horse got one share. On the day of B. Qurayza there were thirty-six horses. It was the first booty on which lots were cast and the fifth was taken. According to its precedent and what the apostle did the divisions were made, and it remained the custom for raids.

The women and children were divided among the Muslims. Following a “common practice” at that time, sanctioned by the Quran in verse 4.24, captive women were liable to be used as sex-slaves. Muhammad also took his share. Ibn Ishaq writes on p 466:

The apostle had chosen one of their women for himself, Rayhana d. `Amr b. Khunafa, one of the women of B. 'Amr b. Qurayza, and she remained with him until she died, in his power. The apostle had proposed to marry her and put the veil on her, but she said: 'Nay, leave me in your power, for that will be easier for me and for you.' So he left her. She had shown repugnance towards Islam when she was captured' and clung to Judaism. So the apostle put her aside and felt some displeasure. While he was with his companions he heard the sound of sandals behind him and said, 'This is Thalaba b. Sa`ya coming to give me the good news of Rayhana's acceptance of Islam' and he came up to announce the fact. This gave him pleasure.

A number of Hadith from Bukhari and Muslim give partial stories about the events. For example Bukhari writes the following in 5.59.443-449:

Narrated 'Aisha: When the Prophet returned from Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath, Gabriel came and said (to the Prophet), You have laid down your arms? By Allah, we angels have not laid them down yet. So set out for them." The Prophet said, "Where to go?" Gabriel said, "Towards this side," pointing towards Banu Quraiza. So the Prophet went out towards them.

It is interesting to note that after the enemy had left, Muhammad seemed not to be aware of any alleged treason the Banu Qurayza had committed. Obviously this treason did not have any consequences in the field. Note also that no investigation to assess the alleged treason was undertaken before the attack. Gabriel said he would attack, and Muhammad saw this as an order to follow him.

Bukhari also writes the following in 5.59.362:

Narrated Ibn Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again) . He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

 

[bripat9643]

How many has God killed?

We aren't talking about who god killed. We are talking about an actual person, Mohammed, who founded a religion that 1.5 billion fools believe in.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

What makes Home Page a credible source? It appears to be an what your buddy Polk calls a propaganda mill.

That has all the facts from credible Islamic sources from people who know the best or what happened

The Genocide of the Bani Qurayza
This story is by far the bloodiest episode of the period associated with the founding of Islam. It describes the full-scale genocide of a Jewish tribe in Medina. After this event the tribe actually ceased to exist.

http://www.exmuslim.org/genocide of the bani qurayza.html:

The background to the story goes as follows. After Muhammad moved from Mecca to Medina and established himself as a political and military leader, he started to attack the commercial caravans of the Meccans. The first major success was an assault on a caravan that turned into a full-scale war. It is known as the battle of Badr.

In one of their counterattacks to curb the growing threat that Muhammad and the Muslims represented, the Meccans besieged Medina. Muhammad ordered a ditch to be dug around Medina, thus the event went down in history as the “Battle of the Ditch”. It was recorded by Ibn Ishaq in his biography of Muhammad, pages 450 through 483 and in a number of Hadith.

Genocide of the Bani Qurayza

Ibn Ishaq reports on p 464:

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them.

All men (600 to 800) were beheaded. Women and children were forced into slavery. As to how they differentiated a boy (to be enslaved) from a man (to be killed) the following hadith from Abu Dawood 38.4390 explains:

Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: “I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.“

The properties of the tribe were taken as booty. Ibn Ishaq writes on p 466:

Then the apostle divided the property, wives, and children of B. Qurayza among the Muslims, and he made known on that day the shares of horse and men, and took out the fifth. A horseman got three shares, two for the horse and one for his rider. A man without a horse got one share. On the day of B. Qurayza there were thirty-six horses. It was the first booty on which lots were cast and the fifth was taken. According to its precedent and what the apostle did the divisions were made, and it remained the custom for raids.

The women and children were divided among the Muslims. Following a “common practice” at that time, sanctioned by the Quran in verse 4.24, captive women were liable to be used as sex-slaves. Muhammad also took his share. Ibn Ishaq writes on p 466:

The apostle had chosen one of their women for himself, Rayhana d. `Amr b. Khunafa, one of the women of B. 'Amr b. Qurayza, and she remained with him until she died, in his power. The apostle had proposed to marry her and put the veil on her, but she said: 'Nay, leave me in your power, for that will be easier for me and for you.' So he left her. She had shown repugnance towards Islam when she was captured' and clung to Judaism. So the apostle put her aside and felt some displeasure. While he was with his companions he heard the sound of sandals behind him and said, 'This is Thalaba b. Sa`ya coming to give me the good news of Rayhana's acceptance of Islam' and he came up to announce the fact. This gave him pleasure.

A number of Hadith from Bukhari and Muslim give partial stories about the events. For example Bukhari writes the following in 5.59.443-449:

Narrated 'Aisha: When the Prophet returned from Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath, Gabriel came and said (to the Prophet), You have laid down your arms? By Allah, we angels have not laid them down yet. So set out for them." The Prophet said, "Where to go?" Gabriel said, "Towards this side," pointing towards Banu Quraiza. So the Prophet went out towards them.

It is interesting to note that after the enemy had left, Muhammad seemed not to be aware of any alleged treason the Banu Qurayza had committed. Obviously this treason did not have any consequences in the field. Note also that no investigation to assess the alleged treason was undertaken before the attack. Gabriel said he would attack, and Muhammad saw this as an order to follow him.

Bukhari also writes the following in 5.59.362:

Narrated Ibn Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again) . He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

i already gave two links with rebuttals and you just ignored them

 

[Lakhota]

Mere child's play compared to atrocities committed by God and Christians.

 

[Lakhota]

How many has God killed?

We aren't talking about who god killed. We are talking about an actual person, Mohammed, who founded a religion that 1.5 billion fools believe in.

Was God also Jesus?

 

[bripat9643]

Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades

Christian Atrocities Committed Against Non-Christian Peoples - Creation Spirituality Communities

Violence in the Crusades | Causes, History, and Violence of the Crusades

Christians aren't the equivalent of Mohammed. If Jesus committed such atrocities, you might have a case. We are talking about atrocities ordered or personally committed by the founder of the religion, not atrocities committed by his followers.

How many people did God murder in the Old Testament?

We are discussing Mohammed, an actual person, not God. How many people did Jesus murder? How many women did he rape?

 

[bripat9643]

How many has God killed?

We aren't talking about who god killed. We are talking about an actual person, Mohammed, who founded a religion that 1.5 billion fools believe in.

Was God also Jesus?

Not if you believe in reality.

 

[Avatar4321]

The Book of Mormon is pure bullshit wrtten by a bunch of racist, sexual polygamous perverts. Read your history.

Deuteronomy 17:17

So you arent going to put in any effort to defend your claim?

And what do Israeli Kings have to do with anything we are talking about?

 

[bripat9643]

That has all the facts from credible Islamic sources from people who know the best or what happened

The Genocide of the Bani Qurayza
This story is by far the bloodiest episode of the period associated with the founding of Islam. It describes the full-scale genocide of a Jewish tribe in Medina. After this event the tribe actually ceased to exist.

http://www.exmuslim.org/genocide of the bani qurayza.html:



Genocide of the Bani Qurayza

Ibn Ishaq reports on p 464:

Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them.

All men (600 to 800) were beheaded. Women and children were forced into slavery. As to how they differentiated a boy (to be enslaved) from a man (to be killed) the following hadith from Abu Dawood 38.4390 explains:

Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: “I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.“

The properties of the tribe were taken as booty. Ibn Ishaq writes on p 466:

Then the apostle divided the property, wives, and children of B. Qurayza among the Muslims, and he made known on that day the shares of horse and men, and took out the fifth. A horseman got three shares, two for the horse and one for his rider. A man without a horse got one share. On the day of B. Qurayza there were thirty-six horses. It was the first booty on which lots were cast and the fifth was taken. According to its precedent and what the apostle did the divisions were made, and it remained the custom for raids.

The women and children were divided among the Muslims. Following a “common practice” at that time, sanctioned by the Quran in verse 4.24, captive women were liable to be used as sex-slaves. Muhammad also took his share. Ibn Ishaq writes on p 466:

The apostle had chosen one of their women for himself, Rayhana d. `Amr b. Khunafa, one of the women of B. 'Amr b. Qurayza, and she remained with him until she died, in his power. The apostle had proposed to marry her and put the veil on her, but she said: 'Nay, leave me in your power, for that will be easier for me and for you.' So he left her. She had shown repugnance towards Islam when she was captured' and clung to Judaism. So the apostle put her aside and felt some displeasure. While he was with his companions he heard the sound of sandals behind him and said, 'This is Thalaba b. Sa`ya coming to give me the good news of Rayhana's acceptance of Islam' and he came up to announce the fact. This gave him pleasure.

A number of Hadith from Bukhari and Muslim give partial stories about the events. For example Bukhari writes the following in 5.59.443-449:

Narrated 'Aisha: When the Prophet returned from Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath, Gabriel came and said (to the Prophet), You have laid down your arms? By Allah, we angels have not laid them down yet. So set out for them." The Prophet said, "Where to go?" Gabriel said, "Towards this side," pointing towards Banu Quraiza. So the Prophet went out towards them.

It is interesting to note that after the enemy had left, Muhammad seemed not to be aware of any alleged treason the Banu Qurayza had committed. Obviously this treason did not have any consequences in the field. Note also that no investigation to assess the alleged treason was undertaken before the attack. Gabriel said he would attack, and Muhammad saw this as an order to follow him.

Bukhari also writes the following in 5.59.362:

Narrated Ibn Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again) . He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

i already gave two links with rebuttals and you just ignored them

Islamic apologist propaganda.

 

[Lakhota]

Christians aren't the equivalent of Mohammed. If Jesus committed such atrocities, you might have a case. We are talking about atrocities ordered or personally committed by the founder of the religion, not atrocities committed by his followers.

How many people did God murder in the Old Testament?

We are discussing Mohammed, an actual person, not God. How many people did Jesus murder? How many women did he rape?

If God was also Jesus and vice versa, he murdered millions.

 

[bripat9643]

How many people did God murder in the Old Testament?

We are discussing Mohammed, an actual person, not God. How many people did Jesus murder? How many women did he rape?

If God was also Jesus and vice versa, he murdered millions.

In reality, he murdered no one.

 

[Avatar4321]

This is probably as good a place to ask as any.

Why didn't Jesus ever get married? Maybe he didn't 'like' girls.

Or maybe he got crucified before he could

Or maybe He did get married.

 

[Avatar4321]

Her name was A'isha and no one disputes that she was a child though some sources say she was all of 9. Muslims tell us the marriage was not actually consummated till she was 14 as if they have any way of knowing that.

The great prophet really was a child molester.

Yeah, but I hear she was a very precocious girl, and mature for her age.

As long as we're talking about child brides, what religion is Mitt Romney?

He's LDS. But that's irrelevant to the topic.

 

[Lakhota]

We are discussing Mohammed, an actual person, not God. How many people did Jesus murder? How many women did he rape?

If God was also Jesus and vice versa, he murdered millions.

In reality, he murdered no one.

Does that mean in "reality" He/They don't exist?

 

[Avatar4321]

Oh puhleeze. Mormonism is the biggest bag of nonsense ever foisted on a gang of suckers. However, Christianity isn't far behind, and Islam is far worse.

I find most people who hold that opinion have never learned a thing about Mormonism. The rest just think they learned about it despite being wrong.