For those who oppose the new North Carolina "anti-LGBT" law

[P@triot]

I don't get it. Provided that looks are deceiving, this guy looks like a member of the Yakuza or something.

His name is Buck Angel. He's a porn star, and he used to be Susan. He still has a vagina.

Which bathroom do you think he should use?

This post is the biggest b.s. ever. If he was a "she" and "she" didn't have surgery (as you are on record stating) - where in the hell are her breasts?!? Epic fail.

Typical liberal propaganda. Post tatted up dude and try to scare people into believing that it's a "woman" and thus justifies society tolerating the repulsive deviant behavior of disturbed people wanting to use the locker rooms and restrooms of the opposite sex.

He didn't have the surgery. As in, he still has a vagina - and according to the law in question, he's a woman.

He may have had breast reduction, I don't know. Hormone therapy does a lot.

Well....I guess I'll just end with these two questions then:

1.) I just Googled this lunatic to see if there was any truth to this. The first thing I noticed? The protruding Adam's Apple. How do you explain that? Surgery to implant something you don't see in women???

2.) Second, and much more damning, how do you explain the inexplicable male pattern baldness? You can see where his head his clearly shaved and then you can see where it is clearly bald (no "shadow" at all, no remnants of any hair). I suppose "she" had surgery to create male pattern baldness???

By the way - if in fact this thing really was a "she" at some point, I can tell you absolutely, unequivocally that "she" has done some serious steroids (trust me - I've spent my life around the stuff). And steroids are 100% illegal in all 50 states. So..."she" would pose no threat and wouldn't be nearly as scary to women if "she" were in prison where "she" belongs or if "she" wasn't doing steroids. On any and all levels, this argument fails.

Let me make sure I've got this straight - you're saying that you're convinced that Buck Angel was actually born a male?

It's rare that there's an opportunity to so throughly prove someone wrong on the internets. If you have any doubt over Buck's "biological" sex, follow these easy steps. But make sure there are no kids nearby.

1. Go to www.google.com
2. Click on "Settings" at the bottom, then click on "Search Settings".
3. Turn off "SafeSearch".
4. Do a google image search for "Buck Angel".

Let me get this straight - I told you I already did that, I pointed out the Adam's Apple and the male pattern baldness, and rather than address facts and science, you want to ignore those glaring issues in favor of redirecting to somethings else?

 

[NLT]

This is what you're fighting for.

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

Actually, from my perspective, that's what this law is fighting for. You're looking at this the wrong way.

This law says that this guy should be using the ladies room:

That photo is of a woman named Susan, AKA Buck Angel Transgendered porn actress

Buck Angel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P@triot]

This post is the biggest b.s. ever. If he was a "she" and "she" didn't have surgery (as you are on record stating) - where in the hell are her breasts?!? Epic fail.

Typical liberal propaganda. Post tatted up dude and try to scare people into believing that it's a "woman" and thus justifies society tolerating the repulsive deviant behavior of disturbed people wanting to use the locker rooms and restrooms of the opposite sex.

He didn't have the surgery. As in, he still has a vagina - and according to the law in question, he's a woman.

He may have had breast reduction, I don't know. Hormone therapy does a lot.

Well....I guess I'll just end with these two questions then:

1.) I just Googled this lunatic to see if there was any truth to this. The first thing I noticed? The protruding Adam's Apple. How do you explain that? Surgery to implant something you don't see in women???

2.) Second, and much more damning, how do you explain the inexplicable male pattern baldness? You can see where his head his clearly shaved and then you can see where it is clearly bald (no "shadow" at all, no remnants of any hair). I suppose "she" had surgery to create male pattern baldness???

By the way - if in fact this thing really was a "she" at some point, I can tell you absolutely, unequivocally that "she" has done some serious steroids (trust me - I've spent my life around the stuff). And steroids are 100% illegal in all 50 states. So..."she" would pose no threat and wouldn't be nearly as scary to women if "she" were in prison where "she" belongs or if "she" wasn't doing steroids. On any and all levels, this argument fails.

Let me make sure I've got this straight - you're saying that you're convinced that Buck Angel was actually born a male?

It's rare that there's an opportunity to so throughly prove someone wrong on the internets. If you have any doubt over Buck's "biological" sex, follow these easy steps. But make sure there are no kids nearby.

1. Go to www.google.com
2. Click on "Settings" at the bottom, then click on "Search Settings".
3. Turn off "SafeSearch".
4. Do a google image search for "Buck Angel".

Whether this guy was born a m ale or female is not the point.

The point is that just because someone is demented into thinking they are something that they plainly are not does not mean that the rest of us are hijacked into being part of their fucking fantasy life.

Just because Bucko Bizarro thinks he is a male when he was born with a vagina does not make the case that I and everyone else has to act as if his delusion is Reality.

For Fucks sake, what is in your head does not change the REALITY around you.

Clearly Democrats have forgotten that.

Blah blah blah blah. None of that bullshit matters.

Here's a hypothetical:

You've got twins - a boy and a girl. You're at the park, and they both have to pee.

Which of the bathrooms would you prefer Buck Angel to share with your child?

Typical bizarre liberal response... "blah, blah, blah, facts don't matter". I want that person in prison for steroids, and once out and less of a threat, I want that person to use the bathroom that nature's chromosomes dictated they should be using. Pretty simple really. So simple in fact, only a liberal could complicate it.

By the way - I don't want this 'roided person in the bathroom with my son or my daughter. And if you can honestly say that you're ok with this person using a restroom or locker room with EITHER of your children then you are absolutely unfit to be a parent.

Further still - you seem to be far more obsessed with Google pictures of this individual than their mental health. That's a damn shame. And shows that liberals don't care about people - they care about getting off at anyone's expense.

 

[jillian]

This is what you're fighting for.

*snip*

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

that isn't what would happen.

nice meme though.

so let's see.... you think a transgendered female should be forced to use a bathroom with people who are going to kick the bejeezus out of her?

 

[P@triot]

the bathroom i am in with them twins....cause i dont let the wee ones go into a bathroom without me.....its very acceptable to take boys in the ladies room.....

why do you people only have issues with body modification when its concerns gender? people engage in all kinds of body modification for numerous reasons but let it be gender related and everyone goes all to hell....

So again I ask....why do you people freak out and demand government provided mental healthcare for people who believe they are Jesus Christ or the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln?!? Why not support and applaud those people like you do with all things disturbingly sexually deviant?

To answer your question - any normal, modest, respectable person doesn't want someone from the opposite sex invading their privacy in bathrooms, locker rooms, showers, etc. And especially when it comes to women considering men's very dark and very ugly history of sexual deviance (rape, abuse, murder, molestation, etc.). Sorry deviant - but I have two precious daughters and I will defend them against this type of perverse deviance at all costs (up to and including serious violence). I'll be damned if some cross-dressing Silence of the Lambs "Buffalo Bill" will be joining them in the shower or the bathroom simply because people like you get off on it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is what you're fighting for.

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

Since you posted a picture of it on a public forum, where's your concern for privacy?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is what you're fighting for.

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

The women in the pic appear totally unconcerned. Why are you?

 

[P@triot]

Seemingly, none of you people have ever spent much time in Europe and other parts of the world. For example, the other day I was in a neighborhood department store (not one in a big mall) and not in the States. There is one restroom with two stalls. The stalls are fully enclosed with doors and walls that go all the way from ceiling to floor. Each stall has a small sink for washing hands. This is a gender neutral lavatory. Both men and woman use it. I went in and waited because both stalls were occupied. When the first stall opened, a man walked out. Then I went in and used that stall. People in other parts of the world do not freak out about stuff like this. Get over it.

When you think about it....the fact that we have stalls in all women's restrooms makes it so no women will ever be subjected to being watched by a transgendered person in a restroom.

And.....a person who transitions from female to male is not going to use a urinal either.

Problem solved.

Really? Then why are there cameras found in women's stalls all the time? Placed there by men who aren't even currently allowed in there?!?

 

[JimBowie1958]

This post is the biggest b.s. ever. If he was a "she" and "she" didn't have surgery (as you are on record stating) - where in the hell are her breasts?!? Epic fail.

Typical liberal propaganda. Post tatted up dude and try to scare people into believing that it's a "woman" and thus justifies society tolerating the repulsive deviant behavior of disturbed people wanting to use the locker rooms and restrooms of the opposite sex.

He didn't have the surgery. As in, he still has a vagina - and according to the law in question, he's a woman.

He may have had breast reduction, I don't know. Hormone therapy does a lot.

Well....I guess I'll just end with these two questions then:

1.) I just Googled this lunatic to see if there was any truth to this. The first thing I noticed? The protruding Adam's Apple. How do you explain that? Surgery to implant something you don't see in women???

2.) Second, and much more damning, how do you explain the inexplicable male pattern baldness? You can see where his head his clearly shaved and then you can see where it is clearly bald (no "shadow" at all, no remnants of any hair). I suppose "she" had surgery to create male pattern baldness???

By the way - if in fact this thing really was a "she" at some point, I can tell you absolutely, unequivocally that "she" has done some serious steroids (trust me - I've spent my life around the stuff). And steroids are 100% illegal in all 50 states. So..."she" would pose no threat and wouldn't be nearly as scary to women if "she" were in prison where "she" belongs or if "she" wasn't doing steroids. On any and all levels, this argument fails.

Let me make sure I've got this straight - you're saying that you're convinced that Buck Angel was actually born a male?

It's rare that there's an opportunity to so throughly prove someone wrong on the internets. If you have any doubt over Buck's "biological" sex, follow these easy steps. But make sure there are no kids nearby.

1. Go to www.google.com
2. Click on "Settings" at the bottom, then click on "Search Settings".
3. Turn off "SafeSearch".
4. Do a google image search for "Buck Angel".

Whether this guy was born a m ale or female is not the point.

The point is that just because someone is demented into thinking they are something that they plainly are not does not mean that the rest of us are hijacked into being part of their fucking fantasy life.

Just because Bucko Bizarro thinks he is a male when he was born with a vagina does not make the case that I and everyone else has to act as if his delusion is Reality.

For Fucks sake, what is in your head does not change the REALITY around you.

Clearly Democrats have forgotten that.

Mate,take a moment. You are arguing against your own position.

Lol, no I am not. Apparently you cannot put my response into you peg holes. That is not my problem.

 

[JimBowie1958]

How about epic red herring. This has nothing to do with people who are delusional and think they are Christ. Get a grip for god sakes.

Men who think they are really women is the classic definition of delusional, and you would realize that were you not a libtard.

 

[Pogo]

That guy's daughter is in a lot more danger from pedophiles outside the bathroom than trans women in the bathroom.

You're failing to understand that pedophiles will most certainly take advantage of laws like Washington's. They can be inside or outside.

What makes you so certain of that, other than your imagination (read: fear)?

Did you not see the link I posted? The one you dismissed as a "right winger trying troll irl?"

Whether that was the case or not, it can be reasoned that he demonstrated how easy it can be.

Still waiting for your link to post 1... you know --- the OP....

 

[P@triot]

You're right. Because this is America and you're on the U.S. Message Board. If you want Europe, go live in Europe.

If you want a collapsing shit hole of socialism where there are no jobs but plenty of violence and deviant behavior (I'm sure you haven't bothered to watch what has been going on in Greece for years now) - then go move to Europe. But we're the United States. We're better than Europe and we won't be lowering our standards to accomodate yours.

So, what you are saying is "This is America and we have a right to be aggressively stupid, ignorant and narrow minded--as well as neurotically puritan."

Typical liberal reply. When faced with facts, yell "racism" or "ignorant" and then add nothing to back up your outrageous claims.

You want "aggressively stupid, ignorant, and narrow minded"? Check the mirror. You'd rather get off on other people's pain and suffering than get them the medical care they desperately need.

Transgenders only suffer because narrow minded and extremely mean and cruel folks like you do not accept them. That's why they suffer. Only an idiot would not see that.

What they 'desperately need' is acceptance and understanding, not censorship.

So then logically you would agree that people who go around insisting they are Jesus Christ don't need mental healthcare, they just need narrow minded, hateful, insensitive people like you to accept that they are in fact Jesus Christ, right? Oops! Epic Fail yet again.

There is only one of us dear who actually cares about these people - and it sure as hell isn't you. I recognize their need for immediate healthcare professionals. You're too busy getting off on the deviance to concern yourself with their wellbeing.

How about epic red herring. This has nothing to do with people who are delusional and think they are Christ. Get a grip for god sakes.

How about epic ignorance of facts and science? A person is genuinely disturbed if they believe they are something they are not. So a boy (XY chromosomes) who believes they are really a girl is 100% mentally disturbed and in need of proper medical care (just like someone who believes they are Jesus Christ). And a girl (YY chromosomes) who believes they are really a boy is 100% mentally disturbed and in need of proper medical care (just like someone who believes they are Jesus Christ).

So now that we have indisputable facts established - would you like to be honest about this issue finally or do you want to show the world that you don't care about these people at all and only care about getting off over the situation?

 

[P@triot]

How about epic red herring. This has nothing to do with people who are delusional and think they are Christ. Get a grip for god sakes.

Men who think they are really women is the classic definition of delusional, and you would realize that were you not a libtard.

Bingo! It's so disingenuous of liberals to demand that anyone who believes they are something they are not in a non-sexual capacity receive mental health treatment and anyone who believes they are something they are not in a sexual capacity should be celebrated and exploited for liberals sexual deviance.

 

[JimBowie1958]

How about epic red herring. This has nothing to do with people who are delusional and think they are Christ. Get a grip for god sakes.

Men who think they are really women is the classic definition of delusional, and you would realize that were you not a libtard.

Bingo! It's so disingenuous of liberals to demand that anyone who believes they are something they are not in a non-sexual capacity receive mental health treatment and anyone who believes they are something they are not in a sexual capacity should be celebrated and exploited for liberals sexual deviance.

Yep. If a person thinks that their arm is not really theirs, and try to cut it off, the libs agree the person is disturbed.

Yet if a man thinks he is a woman and cuts off his penis, he is a normal male Democrat.

 

[P@triot]

15 yr olds ...the bathroom of their sex...with that said i am not above using the mens room...and most men just have an amused reaction

Certainly, I have witnessed situations where a woman got fed up with the long lines for the women's room and went into the men's---if it looked empty. Overall, we need to chill about this situation and not make it a big moral or ethical issue: it's a practical one needing a reasonable, calm, intelligent solution...not hysteria.

But that's just it Esmerelda - we already have one. Men (XY chromosomes) use the men's room and women (YY chromosomes) use the lady's room.

Practical. Simple. Calm. Legal. Orderly. As I said - only a liberal could complicate something this simple.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Seemingly, none of you people have ever spent much time in Europe and other parts of the world. For example, the other day I was in a neighborhood department store (not one in a big mall) and not in the States. There is one restroom with two stalls. The stalls are fully enclosed with doors and walls that go all the way from ceiling to floor. Each stall has a small sink for washing hands. This is a gender neutral lavatory. Both men and woman use it. I went in and waited because both stalls were occupied. When the first stall opened, a man walked out. Then I went in and used that stall. People in other parts of the world do not freak out about stuff like this. Get over it.

When you think about it....the fact that we have stalls in all women's restrooms makes it so no women will ever be subjected to being watched by a transgendered person in a restroom.

And.....a person who transitions from female to male is not going to use a urinal either.

Problem solved.

There is no "problem" to begin with, hence the idiocy of the thread premise.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is what you're fighting for.

*snip*

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

that isn't what would happen.

nice meme though.

so let's see.... you think a transgendered female should be forced to use a bathroom with people who are going to kick the bejeezus out of her?

That's exactly the intent of the "law."

 

[P@triot]

Seemingly, none of you people have ever spent much time in Europe and other parts of the world. For example, the other day I was in a neighborhood department store (not one in a big mall) and not in the States. There is one restroom with two stalls. The stalls are fully enclosed with doors and walls that go all the way from ceiling to floor. Each stall has a small sink for washing hands. This is a gender neutral lavatory. Both men and woman use it. I went in and waited because both stalls were occupied. When the first stall opened, a man walked out. Then I went in and used that stall. People in other parts of the world do not freak out about stuff like this. Get over it.

When you think about it....the fact that we have stalls in all women's restrooms makes it so no women will ever be subjected to being watched by a transgendered person in a restroom.

And.....a person who transitions from female to male is not going to use a urinal either.

Problem solved.

There is no "problem" to begin with, hence the idiocy of the thread premise.

If there is no "problem" then why are there even separate restrooms, locker rooms, etc. identifyed by gender? Oops....

 

[jillian]

This is what you're fighting for.

*snip*

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

that isn't what would happen.

nice meme though.

so let's see.... you think a transgendered female should be forced to use a bathroom with people who are going to kick the bejeezus out of her?

That's exactly the intent of the "law."

I know

 

[P@triot]

This is what you're fighting for.

*snip*

Own it. I cannot honestly believe you would want something like this to happen.

that isn't what would happen.

nice meme though.

so let's see.... you think a transgendered female should be forced to use a bathroom with people who are going to kick the bejeezus out of her?

That's exactly the intent of the "law."

I know

Objection your honor! Move to strike! Defense is being speculative and argumentative!!!

(Damn I'm good at this stuf....I believe I have found my calling )