CDZ For what reason are kids having to learn about slavery ??

[Tommy Tainant]

My granddaughter who goes to school with Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, whites (her color), etc just said to me "PaPa we're learning about slavery"... My heart sank knowing what the poor child was being exposed to, and how she will next be basically looked at by her black classmates in a different way, and this after they being themselves exposed to the events surrounding this time period in which waxes hot amongst so many Americans to this very day.

Blacks are running around trying all they can to erase history (destroying statues), etc. Yet they want the white children to be exposed to a government version of events in which will cause generations after generations of naive children to be saddled with white Guilt.

Then we have the upcoming "black history month", where the same results can also take place in this program just as well. What's wrong with changing the month to "AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH" instead ?????? In American History Month the children would be able to pick out their favorite person in American history to write an essay on.

What's wrong, scared a black child might pick a white person to write about or think highly of ??? Jessie Jackson, and old Al Sharpton along with Maxine Waters would have a cow wouldn't they ?

When are we truly gonna get beyond this bullcrap ??

If it's presented as history by a liberal/propagandist teacher, it will be nothing but lies and revisionist history, far worse for the nation than nothing at all.

Look at truly under-educated racist liberals around here, all hate, no common sense and glad to promote racial division with no integrity on the racial issues whatsoever.

Interesting point. Are you afraid that the many positive aspects of slavery will be ignored ?

 

[beagle9]

My granddaughter who goes to school with Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, whites (her color), etc just said to me "PaPa we're learning about slavery"... My heart sank knowing what the poor child was being exposed to, and how she will next be basically looked at by her black classmates in a different way, and this after they being themselves exposed to the events surrounding this time period in which waxes hot amongst so many Americans to this very day.

Blacks are running around trying all they can to erase history (destroying statues), etc. Yet they want the white children to be exposed to a government version of events in which will cause generations after generations of naive children to be saddled with white Guilt.

Then we have the upcoming "black history month", where the same results can also take place in this program just as well. What's wrong with changing the month to "AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH" instead ?????? In American History Month the children would be able to pick out their favorite person in American history to write an essay on.

What's wrong, scared a black child might pick a white person to write about or think highly of ??? Jessie Jackson, and old Al Sharpton along with Maxine Waters would have a cow wouldn't they ?

When are we truly gonna get beyond this bullcrap ??

If it's presented as history by a liberal/propagandist teacher, it will be nothing but lies and revisionist history, far worse for the nation than nothing at all.

Look at truly under-educated racist liberals around here, all hate, no common sense and glad to promote racial division with no integrity on the racial issues whatsoever.

Interesting point. Are you afraid that the many positive aspects of slavery will be ignored ?

. Nothing wrong with teaching history to high school students, otherwise to do this when they have aquirred the ability to know the difference in someone attempting to slant history in a super biased way for brainwashing purposes or to tell it in an historical context that doesn't work towards an over reaching agenda. Some of the subjects being taught to children these days, and as they are younger and younger when doing so, is being done for precise reasons in which brainwash the children into some kind of life long guilt trip that is to be exploited.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

My granddaughter who goes to school with Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, whites (her color), etc just said to me "PaPa we're learning about slavery"... My heart sank knowing what the poor child was being exposed to, and how she will next be basically looked at by her black classmates in a different way, and this after they being themselves exposed to the events surrounding this time period in which waxes hot amongst so many Americans to this very day.

Blacks are running around trying all they can to erase history (destroying statues), etc. Yet they want the white children to be exposed to a government version of events in which will cause generations after generations of naive children to be saddled with white Guilt.

Then we have the upcoming "black history month", where the same results can also take place in this program just as well. What's wrong with changing the month to "AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH" instead ?????? In American History Month the children would be able to pick out their favorite person in American history to write an essay on.

What's wrong, scared a black child might pick a white person to write about or think highly of ??? Jessie Jackson, and old Al Sharpton along with Maxine Waters would have a cow wouldn't they ?

When are we truly gonna get beyond this bullcrap ??

If it's presented as history by a liberal/propagandist teacher, it will be nothing but lies and revisionist history, far worse for the nation than nothing at all.

Look at truly under-educated racist liberals around here, all hate, no common sense and glad to promote racial division with no integrity on the racial issues whatsoever.

Interesting point. Are you afraid that the many positive aspects of slavery will be ignored ?

. Nothing wrong with teaching history to high school students, otherwise to do this when they have aquirred the ability to know the difference in someone attempting to slant history in a super biased way for brainwashing purposes or to tell it in an historical context that doesn't work towards an over reaching agenda. Some of the subjects being taught to children these days, and as they are younger and younger when doing so, is being done for precise reasons in which brainwash the children into some kind of life long guilt trip that is to be exploited.

Kids develop at different rates. They are unlikely to feel guilt about something that happened such a long time ago.
It is important that they learn about their society and how it developed to where it is today. Maybe this will help the country finally come to terms with the legacy.

I think that you havent made your case that this is a problem.

 

[2aguy]

My granddaughter who goes to school with Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, whites (her color), etc just said to me "PaPa we're learning about slavery"... My heart sank knowing what the poor child was being exposed to, and how she will next be basically looked at by her black classmates in a different way, and this after they being themselves exposed to the events surrounding this time period in which waxes hot amongst so many Americans to this very day.

Blacks are running around trying all they can to erase history (destroying statues), etc. Yet they want the white children to be exposed to a government version of events in which will cause generations after generations of naive children to be saddled with white Guilt.

Then we have the upcoming "black history month", where the same results can also take place in this program just as well. What's wrong with changing the month to "AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH" instead ?????? In American History Month the children would be able to pick out their favorite person in American history to write an essay on.

What's wrong, scared a black child might pick a white person to write about or think highly of ??? Jessie Jackson, and old Al Sharpton along with Maxine Waters would have a cow wouldn't they ?

When are we truly gonna get beyond this bullcrap ??

Students need to learn the truth and facts about our Nation’s history, not the lies, racism, fear, ignorance, bigotry, and hate most conservatives attempt to propagate - this thread's premise being one of many examples.

You mean the lies the democrats tell by omitting that their political party was the political party that fought to restart the slave trade with Africa, fought to have slavery in new states, and went to war to keep their slaves. Then, when their side lost, the democrats enacted Poll Taxes, Literacy tests, their party members started the ku klux klan and their political party created segregation under the jim crow laws....

That is the history that isn't being taught.....

The lie that democrats became the party of Civil Rights in the 1960s is one that also needs to be defeated...

 

[2aguy]

My granddaughter who goes to school with Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, whites (her color), etc just said to me "PaPa we're learning about slavery"... My heart sank knowing what the poor child was being exposed to, and how she will next be basically looked at by her black classmates in a different way, and this after they being themselves exposed to the events surrounding this time period in which waxes hot amongst so many Americans to this very day.

Blacks are running around trying all they can to erase history (destroying statues), etc. Yet they want the white children to be exposed to a government version of events in which will cause generations after generations of naive children to be saddled with white Guilt.

Then we have the upcoming "black history month", where the same results can also take place in this program just as well. What's wrong with changing the month to "AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH" instead ?????? In American History Month the children would be able to pick out their favorite person in American history to write an essay on.

What's wrong, scared a black child might pick a white person to write about or think highly of ??? Jessie Jackson, and old Al Sharpton along with Maxine Waters would have a cow wouldn't they ?

When are we truly gonna get beyond this bullcrap ??

so you think slavery isn't a huge part of our history?

they should learn about slavery.

they should learn about Jim Crow

they should learn about Martin Luther King and civil rights movement.

no one is trying to erase history. well, except for your apparently but nor should people who committed treason in order to keep owning other human beings be honored.

if you want to know what painful is, have your six year old be assigned the Diary of Anne Frank and learn that people like him were mass murdered for their religion .... which is his religion.

no one is trying to erase history.

That isn't true...the democrat party is doing it's best to erase the fact that their political party was the party of slavery and jim crow laws....and only jumped on the Civil Rights band wagon when their terrorist wing, the ku klux klan, and their party leaders failed to keep blacks from gaining political power......

Yes.....children should learn that in the 20th Century, socialist atheists committed mass murder in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, Cuba, and socialist athieists conducted wars and mass murder to create socialist utopias around the world....

Hey, we agree on that...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We are all debt slaves with no allodial rights to property. The 13th amendment ( not the original 13th amendment that disappeared off the books that banned those with titles of nobility to hold office) didn't free the slaves, it simply made everyone voluntary slaves to all that fell under the jurisdiction of USA.INC. Involuntary servitude = bad........voluntary servitude? Well, that's fine..........

Oh, please!

How about starting a thread on this in Conspiracy Theories so I can get a good laugh?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

My granddaughter who goes to school with Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, whites (her color), etc just said to me "PaPa we're learning about slavery"... My heart sank knowing what the poor child was being exposed to, and how she will next be basically looked at by her black classmates in a different way, and this after they being themselves exposed to the events surrounding this time period in which waxes hot amongst so many Americans to this very day.

Blacks are running around trying all they can to erase history (destroying statues), etc. Yet they want the white children to be exposed to a government version of events in which will cause generations after generations of naive children to be saddled with white Guilt.

Then we have the upcoming "black history month", where the same results can also take place in this program just as well. What's wrong with changing the month to "AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH" instead ?????? In American History Month the children would be able to pick out their favorite person in American history to write an essay on.

What's wrong, scared a black child might pick a white person to write about or think highly of ??? Jessie Jackson, and old Al Sharpton along with Maxine Waters would have a cow wouldn't they ?

When are we truly gonna get beyond this bullcrap ??

so you think slavery isn't a huge part of our history?

they should learn about slavery.

they should learn about Jim Crow

they should learn about Martin Luther King and civil rights movement.

no one is trying to erase history. well, except for your apparently but nor should people who committed treason in order to keep owning other human beings be honored.

if you want to know what painful is, have your six year old be assigned the Diary of Anne Frank and learn that people like him were mass murdered for their religion .... which is his religion.

no one is trying to erase history.

That isn't true...the democrat party is doing it's best to erase the fact that their political party was the party of slavery and jim crow laws....and only jumped on the Civil Rights band wagon when their terrorist wing, the ku klux klan, and their party leaders failed to keep blacks from gaining political power......

Yes.....children should learn that in the 20th Century, socialist atheists committed mass murder in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, Cuba, and socialist athieists conducted wars and mass murder to create socialist utopias around the world....

Hey, we agree on that...

You could probably do with a few history lessons yourself if that is your understanding of the world.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

shouldn't they know that young black students had to be escorted by armed federal officers into southern schools?

Yes, but they should also be taught that Whites taught Blacks what a school is

why would we teach them lies?

Whats the lie?

pretty much everything you've posted here since 2009, but specifically this nonsense that whites showed blacks what schools were.

have you been to school?

. Unless history is wrong, I think that slaves learned from the whites how to read and write, but someone might correct me here. Thanks if you do. Any way it makes no difference in this thread, because I think the teaching of history in this form or way should start when kids get to 12th grade, and then let it be an elective.

So you failed to learn history and think everyone else should be just as ignorant also?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

so you think slavery isn't a huge part of our history?

they should learn about slavery.

they should learn about Jim Crow

they should learn about Martin Luther King and civil rights movement.

wtf is your problem, nutter?

no one is trying to erase history. well, except for your apparently but nor should people who committed treason in order to keep owning other human beings be honored.

if you want to know what painful is, have your six year old be assigned the Diary of Anne Frank and learn that people like him were mass murdered for their religion .... which is his religion.

. Alot of fear and accusations in your post. And yes this street has been paved with one sided education in which promotes in our children white guilt, and that needs to end. We don't teach racism in our family, nor do we promote it in our family. Now who you think that you should teach my grandkids what we don't teach them is very interesting indeed. It's as if you have to have this stuff placed in my kids minds, and sadly in the minds of the little innocent black children is amazing.

Then we have blacks running around attempting to erase one version of history, but cherry pick the portion they want to keep, but for what reason do you want to poison my kids minds ???

there is no fear or accusation in my post.

there is nothing sad about children learning history. should your kids be taught that it was ok to own people? or should we just pretend that slavery, reconstruction, Jim Crow and the civil rights era never happened?

it does however seem you're afraid to have the children learn to be decent and empathetic and aware that racism is a pretty dark and dangerous thing.

or do you think they should be lied to and told the civil war was the war of northern aggression?

shouldn't they know that young black students had to be escorted by armed federal officers into southern schools?

They shouldn't have to learn any of these things at all if we don't teach racism or discrimination in our family or home. The reason the government left wants this to go on is for nefarious purposes, and it is to promote white guilt down through the generations. Your stance is that you don't trust that our family will do the right thing in regards to raising the children. Well who made you some kind of monitor of me and my family through government force ?? This stuff has got to end.

it isn't about "your" family.

why would you want the children to be ignorant of the country's history?

seriously.

. Go tell that to those trying to erase history. I figure what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Becareful what you wanted, because you just might get it. If erase part, then erase it all or be more responsible about how it all is done. My 3rd grade granddaughter don't need to know about slavery or none of the bullcrap that goes with it... Enough with the brainwashing already.

So instead of fighting those erasing history, you want to throw the whole thing out because someone took down a statue?

Did you also propose banning cars when seat belt laws became mandatory?

I don't like those who want to erase history in any way, shape, or form. Why don't we concentrate on that without throwing the baby out with the bath water?

 

[Dale Smith]

We are all debt slaves with no allodial rights to property. The 13th amendment ( not the original 13th amendment that disappeared off the books that banned those with titles of nobility to hold office) didn't free the slaves, it simply made everyone voluntary slaves to all that fell under the jurisdiction of USA.INC. Involuntary servitude = bad........voluntary servitude? Well, that's fine..........

Oh, please!

How about starting a thread on this in Conspiracy Theories so I can get a good laugh?

Senate Document # 43; SENATE RESOLUTION NO. 62 (Pg 9, Para 2) April 17, 1933. "The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership"is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

there is no fear or accusation in my post.

there is nothing sad about children learning history. should your kids be taught that it was ok to own people? or should we just pretend that slavery, reconstruction, Jim Crow and the civil rights era never happened?

it does however seem you're afraid to have the children learn to be decent and empathetic and aware that racism is a pretty dark and dangerous thing.

or do you think they should be lied to and told the civil war was the war of northern aggression?

shouldn't they know that young black students had to be escorted by armed federal officers into southern schools?

They shouldn't have to learn any of these things at all if we don't teach racism or discrimination in our family or home. The reason the government left wants this to go on is for nefarious purposes, and it is to promote white guilt down through the generations. Your stance is that you don't trust that our family will do the right thing in regards to raising the children. Well who made you some kind of monitor of me and my family through government force ?? This stuff has got to end.

it isn't about "your" family.

why would you want the children to be ignorant of the country's history?

seriously.

. Go tell that to those trying to erase history. I figure what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Becareful what you wanted, because you just might get it. If erase part, then erase it all or be more responsible about how it all is done. My 3rd grade granddaughter don't need to know about slavery or none of the bullcrap that goes with it... Enough with the brainwashing already.

again, no one is trying to erase history... except you;

what should we tell them? that black people wanted to be slaves, didn't want to vote and didn't want desegregation?

how dishonest of you

. As third graders tell them about geography, cultures, what makes the people unique, world foods, farming techniques, science, weather and on and on... There's plenty of things to fill their heads with besides things that causes division.

You don't think any of those topics cause division?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We are all debt slaves with no allodial rights to property. The 13th amendment ( not the original 13th amendment that disappeared off the books that banned those with titles of nobility to hold office) didn't free the slaves, it simply made everyone voluntary slaves to all that fell under the jurisdiction of USA.INC. Involuntary servitude = bad........voluntary servitude? Well, that's fine..........

Oh, please!

How about starting a thread on this in Conspiracy Theories so I can get a good laugh?

Senate Document # 43; SENATE RESOLUTION NO. 62 (Pg 9, Para 2) April 17, 1933. "The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership"is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State".

1933? You do realize the 13th Amendment was ratified in December 1865.

That was a good one!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Education needs balance.

When talking about the expansion West, it is only right to discuss how Indians were treated.

Discussing the early US economy involves cotton, enter slavery.

Industrial revolution, child labor.

When we have progress, it usually comes at the expense of someone.

. True, but when you see things attempted to be taught to children at precise ages, then we have something else going on, and it ain't no good thing.

Why not do the work needed to get your changes heard instead of ranting on a message board?

Curriculum is set by the school board in your state.

 

[Dale Smith]

We are all debt slaves with no allodial rights to property. The 13th amendment ( not the original 13th amendment that disappeared off the books that banned those with titles of nobility to hold office) didn't free the slaves, it simply made everyone voluntary slaves to all that fell under the jurisdiction of USA.INC. Involuntary servitude = bad........voluntary servitude? Well, that's fine..........

Oh, please!

How about starting a thread on this in Conspiracy Theories so I can get a good laugh?

Senate Document # 43; SENATE RESOLUTION NO. 62 (Pg 9, Para 2) April 17, 1933. "The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership"is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State".

1933? You do realize the 13th Amendment was ratified in December 1865.

That was a good one!

Duh- huh? What you don't understand is that the enslavement of the American people happened in incremental steps. My prior post was about the loss of allodial rights to property and I provided the piece of legislation that was passed.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

True, but when you see things attempted to be taught to children at precise ages, then we have something else going on, and it ain't no good thing.

Did you ask her what she learned?

. She told me that she was to learn about slavery.. That was enough.

If that was enough for you, your ignorance is your fault.

 

[beagle9]

Education needs balance.

When talking about the expansion West, it is only right to discuss how Indians were treated.

Discussing the early US economy involves cotton, enter slavery.

Industrial revolution, child labor.

When we have progress, it usually comes at the expense of someone.

. True, but when you see things attempted to be taught to children at precise ages, then we have something else going on, and it ain't no good thing.

Why not do the work needed to get your changes heard instead of ranting on a message board?

Curriculum is set by the school board in your state.

. What's wrong with planting that mustard seed ?

 

[beagle9]

True, but when you see things attempted to be taught to children at precise ages, then we have something else going on, and it ain't no good thing.

Did you ask her what she learned?

. She told me that she was to learn about slavery.. That was enough.

If that was enough for you, your ignorance is your fault.

Well you know what they say about opinions right ?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We are all debt slaves with no allodial rights to property. The 13th amendment ( not the original 13th amendment that disappeared off the books that banned those with titles of nobility to hold office) didn't free the slaves, it simply made everyone voluntary slaves to all that fell under the jurisdiction of USA.INC. Involuntary servitude = bad........voluntary servitude? Well, that's fine..........

Oh, please!

How about starting a thread on this in Conspiracy Theories so I can get a good laugh?

Senate Document # 43; SENATE RESOLUTION NO. 62 (Pg 9, Para 2) April 17, 1933. "The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership"is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State".

1933? You do realize the 13th Amendment was ratified in December 1865.

That was a good one!

Duh- huh? What you don't understand is that the enslavement of the American people happened in incremental steps. My prior post was about the loss of allodial rights to property and I provided the piece of legislation that was passed.

Read what I quoted above in the read text. Don't derail this thread. Start a thread in the Conspiracy Theories forum where it belongs.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Education needs balance.

When talking about the expansion West, it is only right to discuss how Indians were treated.

Discussing the early US economy involves cotton, enter slavery.

Industrial revolution, child labor.

When we have progress, it usually comes at the expense of someone.

. True, but when you see things attempted to be taught to children at precise ages, then we have something else going on, and it ain't no good thing.

Why not do the work needed to get your changes heard instead of ranting on a message board?

Curriculum is set by the school board in your state.

. What's wrong with planting that mustard seed ?

Your mustard seed has fallen on the path where it cannot grow.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

True, but when you see things attempted to be taught to children at precise ages, then we have something else going on, and it ain't no good thing.

Did you ask her what she learned?

. She told me that she was to learn about slavery.. That was enough.

If that was enough for you, your ignorance is your fault.

Well you know what they say about opinions right ?

There is no opinion there. The fact you failed to follow up and engage the child is your error. There is no doubt about it.