Former FEC Chairman To Mark Levin: Stormy Daniels Money Cannot Be In Kind Campaign Contribution

[BasicHumanUnit]

I could tie this fool up in logical knots faster than he could say Uncle.....but you know what they say about wresting with swine.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who the fuck is your "FEC chaiman" in Cohen vs the USA?

Hint: nobody.

Is that supposed to mean something?

I know right? That was my point.

You're babbling incoherently.

No, you're comprehending incoherently. There is a difference and others see it.

You're a babbling idiot incapable of committing logic. That's all I can determine from your posts.

It's really not surprising. Frankly, your struggle is apparent.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It would be a donation as you suggested, dope and subject to reporting requirements.

You are dumb as shit, son.

Wrong, shit for brains. Read the OP.

Read your own post, dope.

A candidate can donate as much of his own funds as we wants, dumbass.

It wasn't a donation, shit for brains.

It's what you said, dope.

Wrong.

A candidate can donate as much of his own funds as we wants, dumbass.

Loser

 

[bripat9643]

I could tie this fool up in logical knots faster than he could say Uncle.....but you know what they say about wresting with swine.

He has already been lassoed, hog tied and dragged off to the abattoir, he just refuses to admit it.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Hutch is what they call a professional Bloviator. lmao

I'm sleepy....g'night folks. It's been fun.......

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Of course, it proves it was in fact, a crime.

It proves no such thing, dumbass.

One can only plead to a crime, dope

A parking ticket can be considered a crime.

A parking ticket is a crime and cohen is a convicted federal felon.

You're only proving that you're a fool.

Cohen is not a convicted felon?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I could tie this fool up in logical knots faster than he could say Uncle.....but you know what they say about wresting with swine.

He has already been lassoed, hog tied and dragged off to the abattoir, he just refuses to admit it.

Yep...that swine wrestling thingy....I know

 

[Hutch Starskey]

He is convicted. Whether by jury or plea, guilty is guilty. Cohen is now a convicted felon.

And Snow White has 7 Dwarfs....Who cares ???

This is the tread you're in, dope.

Former FEC Chairman To Mark Levin: Stormy Daniels Money Cannot Be In Kind Campaign Contribution

A fact that you keep ignoring.

A fact that is irrelevant.

Cohen is a convicted federal felon. No narrative or radio host can change that fact, loser.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I could tie this fool up in logical knots faster than he could say Uncle.....but you know what they say about wresting with swine.

You can't do shit, dope.

 

[bripat9643]

It proves no such thing, dumbass.

One can only plead to a crime, dope

A parking ticket can be considered a crime.

A parking ticket is a crime and cohen is a convicted federal felon.

You're only proving that you're a fool.

Cohen is not a convicted felon?

No one made that claim, idiot.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Hutch is what they call a professional Bloviator. lmao

I'm sleepy....g'night folks. It's been fun.......

^this is bloviating.

> this is fact.
Cohen is a convicted felon.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

One can only plead to a crime, dope

A parking ticket can be considered a crime.

A parking ticket is a crime and cohen is a convicted federal felon.

You're only proving that you're a fool.

Cohen is not a convicted felon?

No one made that claim, idiot.

You have. Many times.

Tell us, one more time how it isn't a crime that he actually plead guilty to, loser.

 

[boedicca]

May is not Sept, October, nor November, nor is May DID!

When did Cohen plead guilty to the crime you claim is not a crime?

Yesterday?

Ever hear of a plea deal, or is that to far over your head-)

You plea to a lesser charge, even one you might not have committed, to lessen your exposure.

By the way...…….did you also know that pleading guilty under a plea deal, can NOT be used as evidence to prosecute anyone else; or is that to far over your head too, lol!

And it's important to note that PLEA DEALS are not case law. People plead out to things for which they are not guilty all of the time in order to avoid costly trials. We have such a complicated system of law that most people have unknowingly broke at least a few.

A guilty plea is an admission of guilt.

ANd there was no plea deal in the Cohen Case

Better tell CNN!

Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight criminal counts that included tax evasion and campaign finance violations. In a plea deal, he said that "in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office" he kept information that would have been harmful to the candidate and the campaign from becoming public.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/21/michael-cohe

 

[Faun]

”Here’s the bottom line,” Smith told Levin. “The purpose of those laws is to prevent corruption and one way campaign contributions or in-kind campaign contributions are different than bribes is that you have to use them to get elected.”

Then trump’s payment is an in-kind contribution since the sole purpose of it was to help him win the election.

That wasn't the sole purpose, moron. You certainly can't prove it was the sole purpose. Other billionaires pay off bimbos to shut them up, so you can't possibly claim that winning a political campaign is the only purpose.

Others may have their own reasons. Trump’s was to win an election.

So you can read Trump's mind?

I don’t have to. Cohen said why they did it and it matches precisely with the events as they unfolded.

As I already explained to you and all the other dumbasses. It doesn't matter what Cohen said in his plea bargain. That's not admissible in court. Your mind reading talent also isn't admissible evidence.

Fucking moron, if he’s called on to testify as a witness — it’s admissible.

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

You rightwing freaks are fucking hysterical.

Before you refused to click on the links to the laws that were violated, you asked for, ”linky to the specific law that was violated?”

.... then you get those links but refuse to click on them...

... then you pretend like you asked for an explanation and not a ”linky to the specific law that was violated.”

You dishonest Progs always edit out the important bits. Here's the rest of my post:

Can you explain how it was violated in your own words? (note: rhetorical questions as you clearly cannot).

WTF is wrong with you freaks?

Where exactly was I dishonest? Was pointing out YOU asked for links dishonest? Was pointing out YOU refused to click on the links YOU asked for dishonest?

As far as it being a crime. It was an in-kind contribution according to Cohen. Such contributions are limited to $2700 but according to Cohen, he paid $130,000.

A candidate can donate as much of his own funds as we wants, dumbass.

Sure. As long as it's reported.

Was it?

It's not a campaign donation, dumbass.

We’ll see. The FEC is looking into the matter.

 

[Faun]

Oh blah blah blah you're also intellectually lazy.
And you're wrong, doesn't matter whose money it is if it's used unlawfully in a campaign or not reported to the FEC.
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It wasn't used unlawfully, dumbfuck.

So you say.

New York’s federal court says otherwise and they have a conviction to back it up.

Their "conviction" backs up nothing except Cohen's desire to avoid as much prison time as possible.

It's a admission if guilt with a side of implication sauce.

There's no legal implication of any kind, douche nozzle.

LOLOLOL

Of course there is, fucking moron. Cohen pled guilty to a felony and claimed he did so at the direction of Trump.

 

[Faun]

... Former FEC Chairman To Mark Levin: Stormy Daniels Money Cannot Be In Kind Campaign Contribution

Law Professor and former FEC chairman Bradley Smith spoke with conservative radio host Mark Levin on Tuesday. He laid out the reason why the payment made to porn star Stormy Daniels from President Trump’s private attorney Michael Cohen could not be an in-kind campaign contribution.

“Here’s the bottom line,” Smith told Levin. “The purpose of those laws is to prevent corruption and one way campaign contributions or in-kind campaign contributions are different than bribes is that you have to use them to get elected. You can’t use them to buy yourself grandfather clocks or fur coats or Rolex watches or something like that.”

He said, “And the FEC standard for that is you can’t use your campaign money for personal use. What they mean by that is you can’t use that for something you’d have to pay anyway that’s not directly for your campaign. The question is, ‘is this really a campaign obligation?’”

Professor Smith continued, “None of these expenditures helped Mr. Trump’s campaign. There’s all kinds of reasons why he may want to make these expenditures even if the allegations made by Stormy Daniels are untrue. Just for family harmony, commercial viability over the long term.”

He emphasized, “Historically, the FEC has said these things are not campaign contributions.”

Professor Smith added, “When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”​

Bripat9643, is it a campaign contribution? I think that may be for a jury to decide. The learned professor's statement that the expenditure did not help President Trump's primary or general election campaign is sophistry. If the the woman's accusation became common knowledge, it may likely been detrimental to Trump's political purposes.

“Historically, the FEC has said these things are not campaign contributions”? This question has often arisen historically, and always in this exact or very similar manner?

Respectfully, Supposn​

That isn't what he said, douchebag. Buying a new suit would help his campaign, but it's not classified as a campaign expenditure because that's an expenditure he would make even if he wasn't running for office.

Not if he needed the suit for the campaign, dope. If Trump is on the road and his suit is ruined, a replacement would certainly be a campaign expense.

Wrong. The suit would never be a campaign expense if he paid for it with his own money since people buy suits for personal use all the time.

But they don’t pay off porn stars a week before an election all the time. Especially porn stars they’ve opted to not paid off in the past when there was no election. That’s why you’d have to be a fucking moron, which you are, the compare a suit to a porn star.

 

[Faun]

A judge is not going to accept a guilty plea on something that is not even a crime.

Says who? There is a statute about campaign expenditures. The problem is that neither Trump no Cohen violated it.

Cohen said he violated it, the Southern District of New York says Cohen violated it. That is all that really matters, everything is just opinion and holds no actual value.

Wrong. Neither of those facts matter. They prove nothing other than that Cohen agreed to a plea bargain. If I agreed to a contract that said there are unicorns on Mars, would that prove there are unicorns on Mars?

They prove nothing other than that Cohen agreed to a plea bargain

No. They prove that Cohen admitted guilt to specific, felonious campaign finance violations.

No, it only proves that Cohen agreed to the plea. There's nothing "felonious" about the violation. If it was felonious, then why aren't both Clinton and Obama in prison?

LOLOL

Fucking moron, it’s hysterical watching someone as dumb as you act as though you know anything about law. Shit, a cereal box is too complex for you.



It’s not a felony if a candidate inadvertently misses reporting some campaign contributions, as was the case with Obama.

It IS a felony if someone willfully and intentionally violates campaign finance laws.

And Cohen pled guilty to two felony counts regarding campaign finance laws for willfully violating them.

 

[Faun]

Cohen said he violated it, the Southern District of New York says Cohen violated it. That is all that really matters, everything is just opinion and holds no actual value.

Wrong. Neither of those facts matter. They prove nothing other than that Cohen agreed to a plea bargain. If I agreed to a contract that said there are unicorns on Mars, would that prove there are unicorns on Mars?

They prove nothing other than that Cohen agreed to a plea bargain

No. They prove that Cohen admitted guilt to specific, felonious campaign finance violations.

No, it only proves that Cohen agreed to the plea. There's nothing "felonious" about the violation. If it was felonious, then why aren't both Clinton and Obama in prison?

The charge he plead to was a federal felony, retard.

Is Obama in prison? No? Then you must be mistaken.

LOLOLOL

You’re as dumb as shit, fucking moron.

Was Obama charged with a felony?

 

[Faun]

No. They prove that Cohen admitted guilt to specific, felonious campaign finance violations.

No, it only proves that Cohen agreed to the plea. There's nothing "felonious" about the violation. If it was felonious, then why aren't both Clinton and Obama in prison?

The charge he plead to was a federal felony, retard.

Is Obama in prison? No? Then you must be mistaken.

Obama plead guilty to a felony?

That's what that idiot Hutch Starskey claims.

No, hutch claimed no such thing. You would no that if you weren’t such a fucking moron.