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The President has plenary authority over all classification of documents. Period.
So, what's it going to be? How are defenders of all things Trump going to throw these former military personnel under the bus?
No, it was not too complicated. You did not read the brief. The brief states, that they, the officers, are required to disobey lawful orders? There is already in the UCMJ, the order, not to commit crimes if ordered to do so. From your brief.They were explaining the conflict officers would face between following orders from an unaccountable CIC and following the law. I guess it was too complicated for you.
That service members are required to disobey unlawful orders is commonly known as the “duty to disobey.”
Everyone knows that. The thing is, Trump is on tape admitting he showed classified docs to a person not authorized to see them. AND, he defied a subpoena for the return of the docs he stole.The President has plenary authority over all classification of documents. Period.
Yet, built into the military, are rules, regulations, laws, preventing the military from commiting crimes.Amici are deeply interested in this case because presidential immunity from criminal prosecution would threaten the military’s role in American society, our nation’s constitutional order, and our national security.
That service members are required to disobey unlawful orders is commonly known as the “duty to disobey.”
Since you are having difficulty comprehending the point they are making, and I can't increase your IQ, I can't help you. Sorry.No, it was not too complicated. You did not read the brief. The brief states, that they, the officers, are required to disobey lawful orders? There is already in the UCMJ, the order, not to commit crimes if ordered to do so. From your brief.
Too complicated? I am reading and quoting from the link you gave. It seems you are the one having a problem grasping what you linked to.
The service members are already required to disobey unlawful orders? So how is it that the court must rule Trump is not immune, to save the military from anarchy? By law, the UCMJ, there is a duty to disobey.
They were explaining the conflict officers would face between following orders from an unaccountable CIC and following the law. I guess it was too complicated for you.
That service members are required to disobey unlawful orders is commonly known as the “duty to disobey.”
Petitioner’s theory that the President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, if accepted, has the potential to severely undermine the Commander-in-Chief’s legal and moral authority to lead the military forces, as it would signal that they but not he must obey the rule of law.Yet, the officers state in the brief, that they will not follow an unlawful order?
I dont need thanks for more service, I do not appreciate thanks for my service, it always sounds hollow, contrived, fake.If you think you gain any credibility for your opinion because of a claim you're a vet you'd be wrong about that too. BTW, if you really are a vet, thanks for your service.
yet, we did not face any crisis when Trump was in office? Why is that? Trump obeyed every ruling that the Supreme Court gave. Trump ceded to the State's authority?Anti-democratic, authoritarian regimes like the one Trump wants.
yet, the brief you provide, gives two examples as to why this will not happenPetitioner’s theory that the President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, if accepted, has the potential to severely undermine the Commander-in-Chief’s legal and moral authority to lead the military forces, as it would signal that they but not he must obey the rule of law.
The only solution they offer is the unfounded prediction that military officers and officials would defy presidential orders to commit crimes
That service members are required to disobey unlawful orders is commonly known as the “duty to disobey."
the point they make is pure politics, based on conjectureSince you are having difficulty comprehending the point they are making, and I can't increase your IQ, I can't help you. Sorry.
Should I assume your discomfort with these former military leaders speaking out about the damage presidential immunity would do to the military means you think Trump's claim has merit?the point they make is pure politics, based on conjecture
The military Code of Conduct, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the Geneva Convention, does not go away if the president excercises presidential immunity.
A specious brief, at best.
Former top military officers push back on Trump immunity claim
More than a dozen retired four-star generals, admirals and other former military leaders filed an amicus brief with in the Supreme Court on Monday, arguing against former President Trump’s claims of immunity in his criminal cases.
The group said Trump’s claims “would threaten the military’s role in American society, our nation’s constitutional order, and our national security,” and would have a “profoundly negative effects on military service members.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...y-officers-push-back-on-trump-immunity-claim/
So, what's it going to be? How are defenders of all things Trump going to throw these former military personnel under the bus? Will they be accused of being part of the fictitious deep state, or Dems, or never Trumper's? In what way will their concerns be dismissed as civil society mobilizes to prevent a takeover of the levers of power in ways previously thought unimaginable?
You're a fucking lying bitchboy. Trump did not steal any documents, moron.Everyone knows that. The thing is, Trump is on tape admitting he showed classified docs to a person not authorized to see them. AND, he defied a subpoena for the return of the docs he stole.
Soldiers follow orders. We spend so much though and the corruption of the military/industrial complex has put the safety of the nation in peril. We should have at least another hundred naval vessels active. And at 100% from design doing its purpose. Instead we are struggling in different classes of those ships and getting the most out of each of them. This is just the Navy branch and we have not even gotten into the F 35 and issues landing on the hugest Aircraft Carriers."So, what's it going to be? How are defenders of all things Trump going to throw these former military personnel under the bus?"
Got it. You don't like the idea that as experienced military leaders they see peril in the notion of a prez being able to do anything he/she damn pleases without regard for accountability or legal exposure. Their goal is to ensure the protection of the country. Trump's goal is the protection of himself. See the difference?