Francis Keys bridge hit by ship. Bridge collapses, mass casualty event.

[mudwhistle]

Bare steerage way on a ship is 2-3 knots.

Depending on the current......but this is a ship that doesn't turn very fast.

I'm sure if I had said 2 knots somebody would have said that was wrong too.

This ship should have been escorted out with tugs, or the port master steering till they were out of the bay.

We don't even know who was at the helm.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

That had nothing to do with the ship's equipment. They were run down.

Uh huh.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

TRADE ASSOCIATION DIRECTOR SAYS SHIP’S PILOT TRIED TO SLOW DOWN​

The pilot of the ship that caused the Baltimore bridge collapse tried to slow it down before the crash, the head of a trade association for maritime pilots said.
Clay Diamond, executive director of the American Pilots’ Association, said he has been in close contact with officials from the Association of Maryland Pilots who described to him what happened as the ship approached the bridge. He said when the ship was a few minutes out, it lost all power, including to its engines.
The pilot immediately ordered the rudder hard to port to keep the ship from turning right and ordered the port anchor be dropped, which it was, Diamond said. The pilot also contacted a dispatch office to get the bridge shut down.
Diamond said widely circulated images show the ship’s lights turning off and then back on, sparking questions about whether the vessel had regained power. But, he said, the emergency generators that kicked in turned the lights back on but not the ship’s propulsion.
Every foreign-flagged ship entering U.S. waters must have a state-licensed pilot on board. Pilots board the ships before they enter local waterways and take “navigational control” of the ship, Diamond said, meaning they give orders for the ship’s speed and direction.
“These are among the most highly trained mariners in the world,” he said.

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[progressive hunter]

Tell the owners of the Ship that they must pay 25% of the Bridge Rebuild fee

100%

 

[Lord-Humungus]

Depending on the current......but this is a ship that doesn't turn very fast.

I'm sure if I had said 2 knots somebody would have said that was wrong too.

This ship should have been escorted out with tugs, or the port master steering till they were out of the bay.

We don't even know who was at the helm.

IMO fallout from this will be requiring Tug escorts for all vessels entering and leaving all US ports

 

[Delldude]

The ship would have been under the legal control of a harbor pilot, not the crew.

I'd bet in those last few minutes, as it was hitting the fan, legal control or not, the pilot got out of the way.

 

[Failzero]

100%

They would make DJT 45/47 pay for all of it

 

[AZrailwhale]

LOL! He capitalized 'Safe Station"!! I wonder what he thinks that is?

Anyhow..lost power at the exact wrong moment...and physics did the rest. Crew were just along for the ride...at that point....an anchor would have just dragged anyway.

They apparently dropped the PORT anchor, but the ship still veered to starboard.

 

[Natural Citizen]

8x video speed...

 

[AZrailwhale]

Tell the owners of the Ship that they must pay 25% of the Bridge Rebuild fee

The ship’s insurer will have to reimburse the Feds for the entire cost.

 

[AZrailwhale]

But being that close to a bridge you would expect a course would be set already. Like an airplane on final approach.

My guess is the helmsman was sawing the wheel back and forth praying for any response he could get and it was hard to starboard when the power came back. Alternatively, if the ship was single screw, the torque from the screw may have put the ship into a starboard turn regardless of the rudder position. It looked from the exhaust plume that she was going full astern prior to the collision which would have been pulling water over the rudder with an opposite effect than normal.

 

[WEATHER53]

8x video speed...


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Slides hard right which is opposite of what they hoped for

 

[AZrailwhale]

But being that close to a bridge you would expect a course would be set already. Like an airplane on final approach.

I’m talking about after the first power failure.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Depending on the current......but this is a ship that doesn't turn very fast.

I'm sure if I had said 2 knots somebody would have said that was wrong too.

This ship should have been escorted out with tugs, or the port master steering till they were out of the bay.

We don't even know who was at the helm.

The helmsman would have been a crew member taking orders from the harbor pilot.

 

[DudleySmith]

Um, no, they can't. ports need to be near population centers for obvious reasons as well as deep water areas for the other obvious reason. Plus the whole Chesapeake bay area needs bridges as it's a massive collection of bays and peninsulas.

They can find less crowded areas, and dredges can help with the deep water. Population grew around ports, due to everything having to be moved by water or wagons. That isn't the case today. Most imports merely need truck and rail connections. Old cities aren't viable any more, most are gutted out centers. Baltimore was right for a different era.

Se any freeways slapped across this port?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Port_Jebel_Ali_on_1_May_2007_Pict_1.jpg

It's a modern artificial harbor and port.

Real infrastructure building would avoid wasting money on places like Baltimore and Long Beach like the plague.

Other examples:

The most expensive port Construction 2022 - Prosertek

Ports are vital points in the global logistics chain. In 2022, we will see the construction of costly port projects.

prosertek.com

 

[Natural Citizen]

Slides hard right which is opposite of what they hoped for

Well from watching other videos of the incident in a wider lens, they were clearly on a black ship there for a bit. The generators were apparently kicked on and the smoke indicates that they likely got the engine running there near the last minute.

Of course, they weren't gonna be steering and their wouldn't be any power for propulsion on a generator.

 

[WEATHER53]

The lights go off and come back on and it’s then that it starts sliding and heading right. I mean it hit that support dead on

 

[Failzero]

8x video speed...


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8 knots = ramming speed for such a Rig

 

[Natural Citizen]

8 knots = ramming speed for such a Rig

I only posted faster video because it's a better way to see what actually happened there.

But this stuff happens. Certainly not often. But it happens.

 

[Rogue AI]

Interesting side note; all six of the missing workers are foreigners.

Who are the victims in Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse? What we know about those missing and presumed dead

Four workers who fell into the Patapsco River when the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed are still missing and presumed to be dead

www.cbsnews.com

No mention of their immigration status. Tax dollars going to pay foreign workers, how sad.