Free College Education

[justaguy]

The idea of free education is a plausible way to capture the imagination of potential College students. But maybe that should be limited to "subjects" that could benefit the Country in terms of economic growth. The disciplines of Engineering and the Sciences (and all sub divisions of these subjects) would warrant full support of the Government and US companies. Of course failure to complete the degree course successfully would require the student to pay back all their past tuition fees; nothing is that free !!!

Nothing is for free. Benefit the country? I don't know how you come up with that one. We already have engineers and scientists--that paid for their own college educations. If they pay for it themselves they're certain to graduate and work hard at making that happen.

When something is given for free, people tend to take it for granted, and abuse it. BTW--this is why we have scholarships, so the top of the top can get go to college for "free."

I don't know what you people don't understand about being 19 trillion dollars in red ink? Here is what 1 trillion dollars looks like. These are $100.00 bills stacked together on pallets.

 

[LeftofLeft]

College of The Ozarks is a model we should look to achieve free education.

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

You're an idiot. Lots of things are called free that are paid for by someone.

A lots of Liberals idiots believe they are. Many justify it by saying it's free for the person getting it.

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Those that expect their college education to be funded based on what Bernie Sanders supports are born losers.

 

[Conservative65]

My youngest daughter just graduated from college with a degree in biology and received her commission as a Second Lieutenant in the United States Army. Her college education was not free. The taxpayers paid for her education because she endured a great deal in order to receive that Army commission. While other students were partying the night away, she was tucked in bed in order to get up for physical fitness training at 5:45 am, Monday through Friday. While other students were enjoying their summer breaks, she was on a Caribbean island helping high school students prepare for their role in their country's police force by teaching them skills and discipline they would need. She spent another summer slogging through the mud and living in 100 degree heat in tents for weeks at a time.

That is how she earned her education. Even after that, she has a seven-year service obligation to pay back what she received.

It wasn't free by any stretch of the imagination and no one gets a free education. Somebody pays.

Hers wasn't free. She earned it. Thank her for me.

 

[Conservative65]

My youngest daughter just graduated from college with a degree in biology and received her commission as a Second Lieutenant in the United States Army. Her college education was not free. The taxpayers paid for her education because she endured a great deal in order to receive that Army commission. While other students were partying the night away, she was tucked in bed in order to get up for physical fitness training at 5:45 am, Monday through Friday. While other students were enjoying their summer breaks, she was on a Caribbean island helping high school students prepare for their role in their country's police force by teaching them skills and discipline they would need. She spent another summer slogging through the mud and living in 100 degree heat in tents for weeks at a time.

That is how she earned her education. Even after that, she has a seven-year service obligation to pay back what she received.

It wasn't free by any stretch of the imagination and no one gets a free education. Somebody pays.

That's lovely and wholly irrelevant.

What if an American kid is born poor?

It gives YOU an opportunity to prove to me that the kid is a good investment.

 

[Conservative65]

Free College Education

There is no such thing and never will be. That's like suggesting free gold or free Ferrari's.

So if we keep enough Americans uneducated because they can't afford it,

how will that make America a better place?

If we keep handing people something for nothing, how will that make America great?

If you think some kid whose parents can't afford college should be able to go, write a check and pay their entire tuition with YOUR money.

 

[Conservative65]

The same way someone paid for your education. Its called social accountability to others

That's a bullshit argument.

Tell me who paid for my education. I'm waiting.

 

[The Rabbi]

There is no such thing as free college.
You don't want to pay for your college? Join the ROTC and serve your country. Get a scholarship. Borrow the money.
But don't expect taxpayers to give you a free ride.

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Nothing is free,dumbass. Take your semantics and stick them up your ass

Still word playing.

Taxes, free college is paid for via taxes.

Personally, outside of community or some trade schools I think that is an expensive proposition. However, if college graduates could volunteer some amount of time for the 2 years after college that could help offset the cost.

But, how are you going to have a conversation about this? You're stuck on the four letter F word.

Then it's not free if mandated taxes are used to pay for it.

I hear the argument that using taxes to provide "free" college is a good investment. Bullshit. If someone else's kid going to college is such a good investment, why isn't it a good enough investment for the kid's parents to make on the kid's behalf?

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as free college.
You don't want to pay for your college? Join the ROTC and serve your country. Get a scholarship. Borrow the money.
But don't expect taxpayers to give you a free ride.

I hear the argument from the "free college" crowd that it's an investment. I fail to see where something that a kid's own parents won't invest in for their own kids as being a good investment for me. Those that argue it say we'll all benefit from it. If so, that means the kid's parents, the ones that didn't invest in their own kids, will benefit from something they didn't do but should have.

 

[The Rabbi]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Nothing is free,dumbass. Take your semantics and stick them up your ass

Still word playing.

Taxes, free college is paid for via taxes.

Personally, outside of community or some trade schools I think that is an expensive proposition. However, if college graduates could volunteer some amount of time for the 2 years after college that could help offset the cost.

But, how are you going to have a conversation about this? You're stuck on the four letter F word.

Then it's not free if mandated taxes are used to pay for it.

I hear the argument that using taxes to provide "free" college is a good investment. Bullshit. If someone else's kid going to college is such a good investment, why isn't it a good enough investment for the kid's parents to make on the kid's behalf?

Libs like to call gov't spending "investment." Who can argue with investing in the future? But an investinng involves allocating a sum of money to earn a return in the future. Libs are sort of weak on that second part and cannot show any actual return on money allocated now.

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Nothing is free,dumbass. Take your semantics and stick them up your ass

Still word playing.

Taxes, free college is paid for via taxes.

Personally, outside of community or some trade schools I think that is an expensive proposition. However, if college graduates could volunteer some amount of time for the 2 years after college that could help offset the cost.

But, how are you going to have a conversation about this? You're stuck on the four letter F word.

Then it's not free if mandated taxes are used to pay for it.

I hear the argument that using taxes to provide "free" college is a good investment. Bullshit. If someone else's kid going to college is such a good investment, why isn't it a good enough investment for the kid's parents to make on the kid's behalf?

Libs like to call gov't spending "investment." Who can argue with investing in the future? But an investinng involves allocating a sum of money to earn a return in the future. Libs are sort of weak on that second part and cannot show any actual return on money allocated now.

That's because they know calling it what it is wouldn't get them support.

They'll come up with all sorts of good sounding If, then arguments. They're speculation for which they can provide no proof.

Liberals claimed the war on poverty would solve problems of poverty. $22 trillion later and we have the same percentage of Americans living in poverty today as just before the start of the "war" and the spending of the $22 trillion.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Libs like to call gov't spending "investment." Who can argue with investing in the future? But an investinng involves allocating a sum of money to earn a return in the future. Libs are sort of weak on that second part and cannot show any actual return on money allocated now.

Yep, now you have it.

If it's a benefit for Republicans, it's called a tax break or welfare. If it's for the benefit of Democrats, it's called an investment.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I hear the argument from the "free college" crowd that it's an investment. I fail to see where something that a kid's own parents won't invest in for their own kids as being a good investment for me. Those that argue it say we'll all benefit from it. If so, that means the kid's parents, the ones that didn't invest in their own kids, will benefit from something they didn't do but should have.

Well actually it is an investment--a personal investment.

An investment is when you take your money, and put it into something that will make your money back with a profit.

However if you take somebody else's money, and you make that money back plus profit, it's called vote buying.

 

[Conservative65]

I hear the argument from the "free college" crowd that it's an investment. I fail to see where something that a kid's own parents won't invest in for their own kids as being a good investment for me. Those that argue it say we'll all benefit from it. If so, that means the kid's parents, the ones that didn't invest in their own kids, will benefit from something they didn't do but should have.

Well actually it is an investment--a personal investment.

An investment is when you take your money, and put it into something that will make your money back with a profit.

However if you take somebody else's money, and you make that money back plus profit, it's called vote buying.

It's an investment when I make the choice to do so such as with my children and college. It's stops being one when the government mandates I "invest" in a kid whose own parents won't do so.

 

[HappyJoy]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Those that expect their college education to be funded based on what Bernie Sanders supports are born losers.

That's neat, did you pick my post randomly or was there some sort of point you are trying to make?

 

[HappyJoy]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Nothing is free,dumbass. Take your semantics and stick them up your ass

Still word playing.

Taxes, free college is paid for via taxes.

Personally, outside of community or some trade schools I think that is an expensive proposition. However, if college graduates could volunteer some amount of time for the 2 years after college that could help offset the cost.

But, how are you going to have a conversation about this? You're stuck on the four letter F word.

Then it's not free if mandated taxes are used to pay for it.

I hear the argument that using taxes to provide "free" college is a good investment. Bullshit. If someone else's kid going to college is such a good investment, why isn't it a good enough investment for the kid's parents to make on the kid's behalf?

You're late to the party, we've already discussed the word "free" in :"free college".

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Nothing is free,dumbass. Take your semantics and stick them up your ass

Still word playing.

Taxes, free college is paid for via taxes.

Personally, outside of community or some trade schools I think that is an expensive proposition. However, if college graduates could volunteer some amount of time for the 2 years after college that could help offset the cost.

But, how are you going to have a conversation about this? You're stuck on the four letter F word.

Then it's not free if mandated taxes are used to pay for it.

I hear the argument that using taxes to provide "free" college is a good investment. Bullshit. If someone else's kid going to college is such a good investment, why isn't it a good enough investment for the kid's parents to make on the kid's behalf?

You're late to the party, we've already discussed the word "free" in :"free college".

There is no such thing as free college. If you still hold the argument that it is, you're an idiot.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Semantics. If that is your argument, you lost.

Nothing is free,dumbass. Take your semantics and stick them up your ass

Still word playing.

Taxes, free college is paid for via taxes.

Personally, outside of community or some trade schools I think that is an expensive proposition. However, if college graduates could volunteer some amount of time for the 2 years after college that could help offset the cost.

But, how are you going to have a conversation about this? You're stuck on the four letter F word.

Then it's not free if mandated taxes are used to pay for it.

I hear the argument that using taxes to provide "free" college is a good investment. Bullshit. If someone else's kid going to college is such a good investment, why isn't it a good enough investment for the kid's parents to make on the kid's behalf?

You're late to the party, we've already discussed the word "free" in :"free college".

There is no such thing as free college. If you still hold the argument that it is, you're an idiot.

I'm beginning to see the problem, left loons really think there is such a thing as free shit..because they are not the ones paying for the free shit. Taxpayers do.