HappyJoy
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This isn't pre-war Europe asshole and nobody or very, very few are for a total gun ban.
And the Germany of the 1920s wasn't pre war Europe either...until the national socialists came to power.......and the GErmans had given up their right to self defense with guns....
I today don't know where I stand on a ban of certain semi-automatic weapons. Only because I'm not convinced a ban will work considering how many guns are already out there. I'm on the fence, you're argument comparing this ban to pre-war Germany is not convincing. It's pathetic fear mongering and if your primary argument is working it's way to being a century old then you need a new argument.
I do know that since fully automatic weapons are few and far between compared to others, there are few crimes committed with them. I' weary of banning weapons however they don't entirely not work.
It is not that we are pre war Germany idiot...it is that giving up your guns today can have deadly consequences for future generations....and the Germans learned that in under 20 years.
And you don't have to go all the way back to Germany for this lesson...though you would think that millions of dead innocent men, women and children at the hands of their governments....the German government and the governments of the occupied countries that had to hand over their citizens to the Germans because they couldn't resist...would be lesson enough...
Across our border with Mexico.....the Mexican police and military constantly ally with the drug cartels and murder unarmed Mexican citizens in the 10s of thousands...they have even brought in the practice of using ovens to dispose of the bodies.....the Mexican citizens are barred by their government from having the guns they need to defend themselves....they have formed mutual defense groups called Autodefensas, in response to the attacks by Mexican police and military and their drug cartel allies....all they have are antiquated hunting rifles......they need AR-15s and other modern rifles....and they don't have them......
ethnic cleansing, genocide, and mass murder only happen to people who do not have guns...especially rifles.....look around the world to the various killing fields....they are filled with the bodies of people who did not have rifles to stop it....
The truth of the matter is that the German people went right along with it. They swooned for fascism and voluntarily followed the guy who scapegoated minorities and filled their nationalistic desires. And you want to make a gun control debate out of it? Fuck off.
No moron.....they had no choice....they couldn't stop the Bernie Brown shirts.....I mean the nazi brown shirts from attacking and beating and killing political rivals......they were unarmed and the police and military supported the national socialist bernie supporters....I mean the national socialists.....
Yes.....the whole fucking point asswipe is what happens when only the police and military have rifles and pistols......you get ethnic cleansing, mass murder and genocide.....as you can see if you actually paid attention in history class......
Gun Control had noting to do with the Nazis taking over the country and exterminating millions, there is not evidence demonstrating there was. You're being ridiculous.