Game Over For Obama

[CrusaderFrank]

Certainly this is Obama's lowest point to date. The question becomes is this a trend or an anomaly?

Obviously the RW echo chamber would prefer this to be a trend and they have history on their side when it comes to 2nd terms. The impending attempt to impeach AG Holder looks like a partisan political stunt to try and re-use the same impeachment strategy that worked for 2000. The recent attempt to crash the economy was as if they were hoping to turn 2014 into a repeat of 2010 with the jobless voters in the midst of another recession venting their anger on the party in power.

So yes, tying the current ACA troubles to Katrina and labeling it as a "disaster" fits the pattern of not letting any "crisis go to waste" without taking the most partisan political advantage out of it.

The potus is definitely on the ropes but to count him out may be a little premature. There are no vivid pictures of people stranded on rooftops without food and water for days on end. The public has a limited appetite for manufactured scandals in DC. If the website is up and running and there are 500k people enrolled next month it will start to fade in my opinion.

Obama's centerpiece legislation bumped 5MM people into the ranks of uninsured and no one wants to sign up for it

 

[plant]

Yes.

Obama will never be President again after 2016.

It's over.

Exactly


Yawn

 

[Katzndogz]

Certainly this is Obama's lowest point to date. The question becomes is this a trend or an anomaly?

Obviously the RW echo chamber would prefer this to be a trend and they have history on their side when it comes to 2nd terms. The impending attempt to impeach AG Holder looks like a partisan political stunt to try and re-use the same impeachment strategy that worked for 2000. The recent attempt to crash the economy was as if they were hoping to turn 2014 into a repeat of 2010 with the jobless voters in the midst of another recession venting their anger on the party in power.

So yes, tying the current ACA troubles to Katrina and labeling it as a "disaster" fits the pattern of not letting any "crisis go to waste" without taking the most partisan political advantage out of it.

The potus is definitely on the ropes but to count him out may be a little premature. There are no vivid pictures of people stranded on rooftops without food and water for days on end. The public has a limited appetite for manufactured scandals in DC. If the website is up and running and there are 500k people enrolled next month it will start to fade in my opinion.

Unlike Katrina, the damage from obamacare is not localized. You can't turn off the TV, eliminate the images, and go out in your own perfect front yard. obamacare is hurting millions of people from one end of the country to the other. If there are 500k people enrolled next month, that 500k of people who lost insurance they liked, now have insurance they don't like, lost their doctors, and the small business provisions will kick in next year making things even worse.

 

[Rozman]

Poor Obama....
Getting picked on again....

Just because he's black!

 

[FJO]

Obamacare will not only doom obama's legacy, it will be the undoing of liberalism and the left wing of the dem party for years.

It is but one more example that proves that liberalism does not work, never has, never will.

freedom works, always has, always will.

Would not bet on that. In neighborhoods like Watts and Harlem there will be a shrine to Obama in every home, next to the shrine to the Unknown Father.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Obamacare will not only doom obama's legacy, it will be the undoing of liberalism and the left wing of the dem party for years.

It is but one more example that proves that liberalism does not work, never has, never will.

freedom works, always has, always will.

Would not bet on that. In neighborhoods like Watts and Harlem there will be a shrine to Obama in every home, next to the shrine to the Unknown Father.

i thought those unknown fathers were being replaced by Mohammed...

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Cue 'Slick' Willie's remarks before you count Obama out "Obama is luckier than a dog with two dicks". That's something that should be painfully obvious to anyone remotely familiar with Comrade O's record.
It took the presence of two and a half million armed Russian soldiers on the ground overhead going door to door looking for him before Hitler decided to call it quits. A failed website, a coupla million people with cancelled insurance policies displaying a single bare faced lie Comrade O made out of many, the IRS, Benghazi, the NSA, Fast &Furious, isn't going to cause Comrade Barack to throw in the towel and the left media and the rest of the Democratic Party, well, they're not likely to abandon Comrade O that quickly either. The reason in some detail is discussed here.


Democratic Party Intelligence [With Observations By John] | Power Line

 

[Ava]

The youth is going to put down their Xbox controllers and come out en masse for some of this charisma.

Yes, they will cast their vote for another socialist, not remembering HillaryCare, but they will be reminded of that and Benghazi, through the media. ( maybe )

I think they will, instead though, cast a vote for Chris Christie.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Hasn't stopped him from his deceptions yet although this lie directly affects/affected millions directly.

 

[Sunshine]

Cue 'Slick' Willie's remarks before you count Obama out "Obama is luckier than a dog with two dicks". That's something that should be painfully obvious to anyone remotely familiar with Comrade O's record.
It took the presence of two and a half million armed Russian soldiers on the ground overhead going door to door looking for him before Hitler decided to call it quits. A failed website, a coupla million people with cancelled insurance policies displaying a single bare faced lie Comrade O made out of many, the IRS, Benghazi, the NSA, Fast &Furious, isn't going to cause Comrade Barack to throw in the towel and the left media and the rest of the Democratic Party, well, they're not likely to abandon Comrade O that quickly either. The reason in some detail is discussed here.


Democratic Party Intelligence [With Observations By John] | Power Line

OMG! The first psych patient I ever did an assessment on told me he had two. It was all I could do to keep it together. There was an LPN in earshot and she did everything she could to make me crack up. When I got finished the question most of the staff had was, 'did you look.' No, I did not. He abandoned that line of thinking when the meds kicked in.

 

[bodecea]

Doesn't look good when even the Washington Post says it may be game over for Obama.

Does the health-care fumble mean game over for Obama?


Four times he mentioned fumbling — both the HealthCare.gov Web site and his promise that people could keep their health plans if they liked them. “These are two fumbles on something that — on a big game, which — but the game’s not over,” he said.

In a narrow sense, that’s probably true: There may well be enough time to salvage Obamacare.

But on the broader question of whether Obama can rebuild an effective presidency after this debacle, it’s starting to look as if it may be game over.

The record for recent second-term presidents is not good: Reagan had Iran-contra, Clinton had impeachment and Bush had Katrina and Iraq. Once a president suffers a blow such as Obama is now suffering with his health-care law — in which the public not only disapproves of a president’s actions but starts to take a negative view of him personally — it is difficult to recover.

This week’s Quinnipiac University poll found Obama’s job-approval rating at its lowest ever, 39 percent. More ominous: Only 44 percent say Obama is honest and trustworthy, while 52 percent say he is not; that’s the first time more thought him untrustworthy than trustworthy. Polls show Obama’s personal favorability rating has dropped in tandem.

We have seen this before. After the flubbed response to Katrina in 2005, George W. Bush’s honest-and-trustworthy rating fell below 50 percent for the first time, and it never returned. Bill Clinton began his second term with 42 percent calling him honest and trustworthy; he soon slipped into the 20s in Post polling and stayed there.

The loss of trust will make even harder the already uphill effort to persuade Congress to enact other items on his agenda, such as immigration reform and a comprehensive budget deal. House Speaker John Boehner this week dashed hopes of immigration legislation getting through Congress anytime soon, saying the House wouldn’t even negotiate with the Senate over an immigration bill that chamber had passed.

Also this week, House and Senate conferees meeting to discuss the budget they have been assigned to produce acknowledged they had given up hope for a far-reaching agreement.

“As someone who’s been naive enough to believe that we could actually do a larger deal,” Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) told his fellow conferees, “at least getting something done for a year or two would, I think, have an extraordinarily positive effect.”

Obama, in his Thursday news conference, spoke of regaining his clout as part of the game. His game plan: “My intention in terms of winning back the confidence of the American people is just to work as hard as I can, identify the problems that we’ve got, make sure that we’re fixing them.”

“There are going to be ups and downs during the course of my presidency,” Obama said. “I think I said early on when I was running, I am not a perfect man and I will not be a perfect president.”

Dana Milbank: Does health-care fumble mean game over for Obama? - The Washington Post

I guess he won't get re-elected then.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The youth is going to put down their Xbox controllers and come out en masse for some of this charisma.

Yes, they will cast their vote for another socialist, not remembering HillaryCare, but they will be reminded of that and Benghazi, through the media. ( maybe )

I think they will, instead though, cast a vote for Chris Christie.

If you go down the GOP checklist Christie is a conservative on his positions. His pragmatism doesn't make him a socialist. What will be a problem is if the extreme right doesn't vote for him because they believe that he is a "socialist". In that case they will be responsible for electing another Dem to the White house.

 

[Redfish]

The youth is going to put down their Xbox controllers and come out en masse for some of this charisma.

Yes, they will cast their vote for another socialist, not remembering HillaryCare, but they will be reminded of that and Benghazi, through the media. ( maybe )

I think they will, instead though, cast a vote for Chris Christie.

If you go down the GOP checklist Christie is a conservative on his positions. His pragmatism doesn't make him a socialist. What will be a problem is if the extreme right doesn't vote for him because they believe that he is a "socialist". In that case they will be responsible for electing another Dem to the White house.

lots of "ifs" here. If Christie is the nominee and conservatives stay home like they did in 2008 and 2012, then the dem will probably win.

personally I don't think Christie will be the nominee. Nor do I think conservatives will make the same mistake they made in 08 and 12 by staying home and helping elect radical liberals.

 

[Plasmaball]

Obama is a lame duck. The concern for the dems is the NEXT presidency. It isn't looking hopeful for them.

the fuck? its three years out you moron.literally nothing has happened yet with the race and you have the balls to state this? Please never post on a politics forum again, because you are just embarrassing.

 

[Plasmaball]

The youth is going to put down their Xbox controllers and come out en masse for some of this charisma.

oo the McCain excuse....Funny how you guys are using that now.

 

[Redfish]

The youth is going to put down their Xbox controllers and come out en masse for some of this charisma.

oo the McCain excuse....Funny how you guys are using that now.

not an excuse, McCain was a terrible choice. As would Hillary be.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

I don't see any of the democrats on this board mad at him yet. And 39 democrats being bi partisan on an issue is not much, I'm afraid.

When rdean saying Obama is over, we may have a shift. Until then, nah

 

[Derideo_Te]

Yes, they will cast their vote for another socialist, not remembering HillaryCare, but they will be reminded of that and Benghazi, through the media. ( maybe )

I think they will, instead though, cast a vote for Chris Christie.

If you go down the GOP checklist Christie is a conservative on his positions. His pragmatism doesn't make him a socialist. What will be a problem is if the extreme right doesn't vote for him because they believe that he is a "socialist". In that case they will be responsible for electing another Dem to the White house.

lots of "ifs" here. If Christie is the nominee and conservatives stay home like they did in 2008 and 2012, then the dem will probably win.

personally I don't think Christie will be the nominee. Nor do I think conservatives will make the same mistake they made in 08 and 12 by staying home and helping elect radical liberals.

Extreme right conservatives never "stayed home" in 2008 and 2012. In 2008 they voted "for" Palin. They were out again in full force in 2012 voting "against" Obama and "for" Ryan.

 

[Zander]

He's not officially done- he still has some Executive Orders he can issue, but legislatively speaking- he's a lame duck with 3 years left.

When the Republicans win the Senate in 2014 it will be official.

 

[Plasmaball]

He's not officially done- he still has some Executive Orders he can issue, but legislatively speaking- he's a lame duck with 3 years left.

When the Republicans win the Senate in 2014 it will be official.

lol