Zoom-boing
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I guess it depends on whether you think workplace protections are "rights". You have the right to openly display your religion in all 50 states without fear of being fired. In 30 if I display a picture of my spouse I can be fired.
Good. Pass ENDA like the majority of Americans want and it will be all 50.
Not according to the dictionary it isn't false: "aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals."
If you don't think I should have equal access to the same marriage protections you have, you wish to discriminate. That is the dictionary definition of homophobia. Bigot works just fine for me though.
How is it intolerant to point out the "phobia" part comes from their fear of the gay in them? Studies have shown it to be true.
Can you "disagree" with skin color? How do you "disagree" with the way I was born?You can "disagree" all you want to, when you try to keep me from equal access to this nations laws and protections, you've gone beyond "disagree".
The common ground is equal rights for gays and lesbians.
You did it again.
Yes, I pointed out that gays want equal treatment. Where is the "common ground" in opposition?
Laws are changing re: fired for being gay.
Skin color is not a lifestyle. There are and always will be people who believe that homosexuality is wrong/a sin/immoral. The gay community would do well to accept that and move on, rather than trying to force acceptance from everyone. Tolerance from both sides is the answer.
I wonder who came up with the definition of homophobia because they missed the mark. They should have used a different word other than 'phobe/phobia', as phobia is a fear or dislike/loathing of something not discrimination of something.
pho·bia
noun \ˈfō-bē-ə\
: an extremely strong dislike or fear of someone or something
And no, people who are called 'homophobes' are not afraid that they themselves are gay nor are they afraid of gays. Sorry, not buying that. Ask anyone what a "phobia" is and they will say that it is "fear". Arachnophobia isn't a strong dislike of spiders and it sure isn't a discrimination against them, it is fear of them. No one fears the gay, no matter how much you say they do. Sorry.
Equal treatment. Same financial benefits that 'married' people get, right? Did you see my posts to Bfgrn?
"Grant equal marriage rights". Well, no. Civil unions should be available to all, with all financial benefits of 'marriage'; 'marriage' should be left to the discretion of the religious. That seems fair, doesn't it?
In other words, change what is included in civil unions.
What is wrong with this? It's a compromise from both sides. Gay people get the financial benefits (which is what they are seeking with 'gay marriage') and straight people do not have to lose the definition of 'marriage being between one man/one woman'. Both sides give, both sides win.
Why hasn't changing what is included in civil unions been the route taken, rather than redefining 'marriage'? Wouldn't this be much more likely (and less difficult?) to accomplish? To me it would be anyways.
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