George Zimmerman

[dilloduck]

Since Zimmerman didn't testify, what's for her to believe?

lol, I suspect a good many on the OJ jury came into the trial with the same sort of foregone conclusions.

1.Tape of the walk through with the detectives
2.Hannity Show

Yeah, he did testify and the prosecution thought it was good enough to use in their case.

She said 'from the start'. So presumably she'd already heard all of that, and already made up her mind?

Why the fuck did the prosecution let her on the jury?

Your'e assuming again. She may have meant from the start of the trial.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1.Tape of the walk through with the detectives
2.Hannity Show

Yeah, he did testify and the prosecution thought it was good enough to use in their case.

She said 'from the start'. So presumably she'd already heard all of that, and already made up her mind?

Why the fuck did the prosecution let her on the jury?

she said it from the start because ...
THE PROSECUITION, THE DEFENSE AND THE JUDGE TELL THEM SUCH.

Do not debate what you don't know.

Jury opening instructions are that they are to assume the defendant is innocent.

She said she believed George's 'story' from the start. Your guilty or innocent plea is not your 'story'.

jeezus what is wrong with you people?

 

[NYcarbineer]

1.Tape of the walk through with the detectives
2.Hannity Show

Yeah, he did testify and the prosecution thought it was good enough to use in their case.

She said 'from the start'. So presumably she'd already heard all of that, and already made up her mind?

Why the fuck did the prosecution let her on the jury?

Your'e assuming again. She may have meant from the start of the trial.

Which means at the start. She had already made up her mind.

 

[Sarah G]

In speaking about his vigilante/murderer brother taking the law into his own hands, actually said -

you would rather Zimmerman be dead than Martin

point taken

Considering the evil nature of the racist Sta Puft guy, the universe may have picked the wrong one to go on that fateful night.

Did George even have a real job other than the neighborhood watch gig?

 

[dilloduck]

She said 'from the start'. So presumably she'd already heard all of that, and already made up her mind?

Why the fuck did the prosecution let her on the jury?

she said it from the start because ...
THE PROSECUITION, THE DEFENSE AND THE JUDGE TELL THEM SUCH.

Do not debate what you don't know.

Jury opening instructions are that they are to assume the defendant is innocent.

She said she believed George's 'story' from the start. Your guilty or innocent plea is not your 'story'.

jeezus what is wrong with you people?

Opening statements are made at the START of a trial. George's story was presented there by the defense attorneys.

 

[dilloduck]

In speaking about his vigilante/murderer brother taking the law into his own hands, actually said -

you would rather Zimmerman be dead than Martin

point taken

Considering the evil nature of the racist Sta Puft guy, the universe may have picked the wrong one to go on that fateful night.

Did George even have a real job other than the neighborhood watch gig?

Irrelevent

 

[NYcarbineer]

She knows what someone who looks suspicious does. Just like thousands if not millions of others.

Looking suspicious in one person's opinion is not a capital offense in this country.

no --it's a cause to call the cops.
Are you able to follow a time line and chain of events ?

To call the cops, not become the cops.

 

[Sarah G]

you would rather Zimmerman be dead than Martin

point taken

Considering the evil nature of the racist Sta Puft guy, the universe may have picked the wrong one to go on that fateful night.

Did George even have a real job other than the neighborhood watch gig?

Irrelevent

 

[NYcarbineer]

she said it from the start because ...
THE PROSECUITION, THE DEFENSE AND THE JUDGE TELL THEM SUCH.

Do not debate what you don't know.

Jury opening instructions are that they are to assume the defendant is innocent.

She said she believed George's 'story' from the start. Your guilty or innocent plea is not your 'story'.

jeezus what is wrong with you people?

Opening statements are made at the START of a trial. George's story was presented there by the defense attorneys.

Tell the idiot Jarhead, not me.

 

[disskreddit]

Mods- Plz delete post.

 

[Jarhead]

Looking suspicious in one person's opinion is not a capital offense in this country.

and he was not shot for looking suspicious.

The way I see it...he was shot for physically expressing his lack of appreciation for someone else viewing him as suspicious looking.

Since there's no proof of that whatsoever that's quite a leap.

Proof?

All of a sudden you want proof?

I gave my opinion based on the evidence....and I made that clear when I said "as I see it"....

But as for proof...here is what I have to work with...

Trayvon did not like the fact that he was being followed. I don't blame him. Neither would I. Was he afraid? I doubt it. He was within a short run to his dads home. Someone afraid would run to safety. He opted to NOT run home.

Trayvon had no other marks on his body other than the deadly gunshot wound. That implies he either started the fight and Zimmerman never got a punch in....or he fought back after an errant blow by Zimmerman. Either way, he won the fight at that point. I have had my nose broken in a fight. Most people become "useless" in a fight when the nose is broken.(I can get into the details as to why this is...but fear of further damage to the nose is the most prominent reason).

However, as the only witnessed testified.....the fight continued....yet, again....no marks on Trayvon which means he was still fighting a helpless, injured man.

That is a sign of a man (or boy) hell bent on not defending himself...but hell bent on beating the crap out of someone.

Thus why my opinion is that he was not happy about being perceived as suspicious.....and made it clear by beating the crap out of Zimmerman.

Curious....your scenario....whatever it may be......what information did you use to come up with it?

 

[dilloduck]

She said she believed George's 'story' from the start. Your guilty or innocent plea is not your 'story'.

jeezus what is wrong with you people?

Opening statements are made at the START of a trial. George's story was presented there by the defense attorneys.

Tell the idiot Jarhead, not me.

The juror is free take opening statements into consideration. She didn't say she closed her ears after that. Apparently the state did not have any evidence to sway her.

 

[Katzndogz]

In speaking about his vigilante/murderer brother taking the law into his own hands, actually said -

you would rather Zimmerman be dead than Martin

point taken

Considering the evil nature of the racist Sta Puft guy, the universe may have picked the wrong one to go on that fateful night.

Did George even have a real job other than the neighborhood watch gig?

On what basis is he a racist? Other than the liberal announcement and the fact that he DARED to fight back against a black thug, what is the basis. Is anyone who fights back against a black thug a racist?

 

[Jarhead]

She said she believed George's 'story' from the start. Your guilty or innocent plea is not your 'story'.

jeezus what is wrong with you people?

Opening statements are made at the START of a trial. George's story was presented there by the defense attorneys.

Tell the idiot Jarhead, not me.

what is that supposed to mean?

Once the opening arguments are presented, the presumption of innocence may be compromised....depending on what the prosecutor may claim he/she plans to show at trial.

But the presumption of innocence is an instruction to the jury before opening arguments.

"tell the idiot jarhead, not me"...

lol...what are you.....5?

 

[wavingrl]

why would any other juror want to speak--if this is the response?

How about would you want to have GZ in your neighborhood?

Long pause. Yes, if he didn't go too far.

It was pretty clear to me that she had questions throughout. 'That is George's rendition of the story--we will never be certain how things happened...'

She found the medical examiner for the defense highly credible and I think the friend, served in Viet Nam/medic that testified about the voice. She recalled that GZ had purchased a lock for the woman who was frightened after the break in--gave her his phone number and said come over any time. This influenced her to think he had a heart, caring person. She still said she should have stayed in the truck.

 

[R.C. Christian]

you would rather Zimmerman be dead than Martin

point taken

Considering the evil nature of the racist Sta Puft guy, the universe may have picked the wrong one to go on that fateful night.

Did George even have a real job other than the neighborhood watch gig?

On what basis is he a racist? Other than the liberal announcement and the fact that he DARED to fight back against a black thug, what is the basis. Is anyone who fights back against a black thug a racist?

Questioning self-defense against a black thug is RACIST!

 

[drivebymedia]

What happened to the "open mind" Juror 37B promised so she would be selected for the jury?

Like all Zimmerman defenders, Juror 37B was not concerned with the point where "George" caught up with Trayvon - 100 yards from "George's" car.

Did "George" grab this frightened kids arm? His hoodie? ... and cause Trayvon to defend himself under 'stand your ground'?

Juror 37B said she was not concerned with what led up to the fight, only the fight itself.

Open mind.

Sad .....

you don't get it....likely because you don't want to get it.

One can have a hunch but still have an open mind.

I was once against same sex marriage...but had an open mind....and now support it.

For someone to NOT assume innocent until proven guilty is someone without the proper thinking for a jury.

The Justice System assumes innocence until guilt is proven - NOT A JURIST.

A juror swears to have an OPEN MIND.

Juror 37B's mind was made up from the get-go that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon - and no testimony was going to change it.

.... Simply because "George" is white and a local boy, and his intentions were honorable, Trayvon is black, suspicious looking, and doesn't belong here.

Enter the DOJ

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Here are some facts on Martin and Zimmerman at someones request:

The February 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martion might never have happened if school officials in Miami-Dade County had not instituted an unofficial policy of treating crimes as school disciplinary infractions. Revelations that emerged from an internal affairs investigation explain why Martin was not arrested when caught at school with stolen jewelry in October 2011 or with marijuana in February 2012. Instead, the teenager was suspended from school, the last time just days before he was shot dead by George Zimmerman.

Trayvon Martin was not from Sanford, the town north of Orlando where he was shot in 2012 and where a jury acquitted Zimmerman of murder charges Saturday. Martin was from Miami Gardens, more than 200 miles away, and had come to Sanford to stay with his father’s girlfriend Brandy Green at her home in the townhouse community where Zimmerman was in charge of the neighborhood watch. Trayvon was staying with Green after he had been suspended for the second time in six months from Krop High School in Miami-Dade County, where both his father, Tracy Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, lived.

Both of Trayvon’s suspensions during his junior year at Krop High involved crimes that could have led to his prosecution as a juvenile offender. However, Chief Charles Hurley of the Miami-Dade School Police Department (MDSPD) in 2010 had implemented a policy that reduced the number of criminal reports, manipulating statistics to create the appearance of a reduction in crime within the school system. Less than two weeks before Martin’s death, the school system commended Chief Hurley for “decreasing school-related juvenile delinquency by an impressive 60 percent for the last six months of 2011.” What was actually happening was that crimes were not being reported as crimes, but instead treated as disciplinary infractions.

In October 2011, after a video surveillance camera caught Martin writing graffiti on a door, MDSPD Office Darryl Dunn searched Martin’s backpack, looking for the marker he had used. Officer Dunn found 12 pieces of women’s jewelry and a man’s watch, along with a flathead screwdriver the officer described as a “burglary tool.” The jewelry and watch, which Martin claimed he had gotten from a friend he refused to name, matched a description of items stolen during the October 2011 burglary of a house on 204th Terrace, about a half-mile from the school.

However, because of Chief Hurley’s policy “to lower the arrest rates,” as one MDSPD sergeant said in an internal investigation, the stolen jewelry was instead listed as “found property” and was never reported to Miami-Dade Police who were investigating the burglary. Similarly, in February 2012 when an MDSPD officer caught Martin with a small plastic bag containing marijuana residue, as well as a marijuana pipe, this was not treated as a crime, and instead Martin was suspended from school.

Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley’s attempt to reduce the school crime statistics — according to sworn testimony, officers were “basically told to lie and falsify” reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.

In fact, the reason Zimmerman was patrolling the townhouse community the night of the February 2012 shooting was that there had been a rash of burglaries in the neighborhood, although there was no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any of those crimes.

As for Chief Hurley’s policy, it was the controversy over Martin’s death that accidentally exposed it. In March 2012, the Miami Herald reported on Martin’s troubled history of disciplinary incidents at Krop High. Chief Hurley then launched the internal affairs investigation in an attempt to find out who had provided information to the reporter. During the course of that investigation, MDSPD officers and supervisors described Chief Hurley’s policy of not reporting crimes by students. Chief Hurley was subsequently accused of sexually harassing two female subordinates. He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin’s death.

 

[Jarhead]

What happened to the "open mind" Juror 37B promised so she would be selected for the jury?

Like all Zimmerman defenders, Juror 37B was not concerned with the point where "George" caught up with Trayvon - 100 yards from "George's" car.

Did "George" grab this frightened kids arm? His hoodie? ... and cause Trayvon to defend himself under 'stand your ground'?

Juror 37B said she was not concerned with what led up to the fight, only the fight itself.

Open mind.

Sad .....

you don't get it....likely because you don't want to get it.

One can have a hunch but still have an open mind.

I was once against same sex marriage...but had an open mind....and now support it.

For someone to NOT assume innocent until proven guilty is someone without the proper thinking for a jury.

Juror 37B's mind was made up from the get-go that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon - and no testimony was going to change it.

She never said that you lying sack of race baiting shit.

.... Simply because "George" is white and a local boy, and his intentions were honorable, Trayvon is black, suspicious looking, and doesn't belong here.

George was not white you lying sack of race baiting shit. He is no more white than Obama.
Trayvons Dad lived there....so there goes your "he doesn't belong there" theory you lying sack of race baiting shit.

Enter the DOJ

people like you make me sick. Always looking for an excuse...never looking for a solution.

 

[TemplarKormac]

God has to be white, all the pictures prove it as such.

You have to be a liberal, all your dodging proves it as such.