George Zimmerman's bloody head

[Cecilie1200]

Sure do, bunky....which is why Zimmerman should have been TESTED to see if he was under the influence of ANY drug.

Totally different?
How?
Police officers have no skill-set available to them to identify when some one may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol?

Without probable cause, wouldn't that be illegal search and seizure?

So killing someone isn't probable cause... Seriously?

No, dipshit. Being questioned about a possible crime is not probable cause, no matter what the crime is (other than DUI), since anyone with more than a teaspoon of brains - not you, in other words - can see that that would mean drug-testing EVERY SUSPECT, which would sort of defeat the requirement of probable cause.

Seriously, could you BE a bigger cumstain?

 

[Cecilie1200]

What evidence is that? The conflicting witness accounts? Oh, right, you only believe the witnesses that agree with you and not the ones that don't.

There are a couple people who were there and said that they saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and that Martin was pounding Zimmerman's head into the concrete as he yelled for help. That is a powerful statement and should be enough to exonerate Zimmerman. I haven't seen any other eye witness testimony that disputes that fact.

Yes if someone was stalking me and running after me and caught up and he had a gun
Id try to beat the shit out of him ass well.
The problem here is that you think if someone randomly starts fighting another person it means that
if they kill the person they are fighting after they start losing it is self defense.

I can certainly see why you felt justified in telling someone else about facts over speculation earlier.

My cat vomits hairballs with better thinking skills than you.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So the 5'6" older, overweight Zimmerman chased down the 6'2" younger, more athletic, underweight Trayvon, and then beat his Trayvon's fists with his face?

According to the autopsy Trayson was 5'11 150lbs
And furthermore according to the police Zimmerman is 5'8
So clearly you have the wrong facts and when you have
the wrong facts you make the wrong conclusions.
Also you are speculation you are telling us
"Nope its impossible for some one 3inches taller to be out run
by someone 3 inches shorter that is just impossible it NEVER happens NEVER EVER "
While I am stating what happened according to a phone call and a girl who happened to hear it as it happened.
Are you seriously going to play politics with a dead kids life, his mourning family, and a potential murderer, are you really that fucking pathetic?

The [police] report listed Trayvon at 6 foot and 160 pounds, though his family said he was actually 6-foot-3 and weighed at most 150 pounds.

-- Nation & World | At heart of Trayvon Martin death, a one-minute mystery | Seattle Times Newspaper

The pdf of the autopsy report says 71 inches (i.e., 5' 11") and 158 pounds. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf?hpt=hp_t2

Try to be factually accurate, stupid, when you are attempting to chastise others for not being as accurate as you demand.

And let's not forget that it was Trayvon Martin's own family who told us he was over 6 feet tall.

 

[Liability]

According to the autopsy Trayson was 5'11 150lbs
And furthermore according to the police Zimmerman is 5'8
So clearly you have the wrong facts and when you have
the wrong facts you make the wrong conclusions.
Also you are speculation you are telling us
"Nope its impossible for some one 3inches taller to be out run
by someone 3 inches shorter that is just impossible it NEVER happens NEVER EVER "
While I am stating what happened according to a phone call and a girl who happened to hear it as it happened.
Are you seriously going to play politics with a dead kids life, his mourning family, and a potential murderer, are you really that fucking pathetic?

The [police] report listed Trayvon at 6 foot and 160 pounds, though his family said he was actually 6-foot-3 and weighed at most 150 pounds.

-- Nation & World | At heart of Trayvon Martin death, a one-minute mystery | Seattle Times Newspaper

The pdf of the autopsy report says 71 inches (i.e., 5' 11") and 158 pounds. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf?hpt=hp_t2

Try to be factually accurate, stupid, when you are attempting to chastise others for not being as accurate as you demand.

And let's not forget that it was Trayvon Martin's own family who told us he was over 6 feet tall.

Yeah but, WTF do THEY know, eh?

 

[Liability]

Your flow chart forgets "Trayvon runs away. Does he come back to confront the guy? No = Trayvon lives."

He just got tired of running. It's called "Stand Your Ground".

He was allowed to stand his ground, too.

According to your idiotic theory, though, that becomes, "And preemptively begin a fight!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

The flowchart has a serious flaw, it assumes Martin is actually innocent.

He wasn't doing anything wrong, so yeah, he was innocent.

Neither was Zimmerman, does that make him innocent too?

Liberals consider any attempt to protect yourself or your neighborhood, rather than huddling behind locked doors and praying the police handle things, to be wrong.

 

[rdean]

Your flow chart forgets "Trayvon runs away. Does he come back to confront the guy? No = Trayvon lives."

He just got tired of running. It's called "Stand Your Ground".

He was allowed to stand his ground, too.

According to your idiotic theory, though, that becomes, "And preemptively begin a fight!"

How do you know? You weren't there. What we do know is Trayvon was "stalked". We have recorded evidence of that.



You guys whirl and twirl and spin and spin again. Stick to the facts. We have that on tape.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He wasn't doing anything wrong, so yeah, he was innocent.

You have NO idea what he was or wasn't doing. If he attacked Zimmerman for the "offense" of being followed by Zimmerman, he WAS doing something wrong, for example.

Actually Trayson was on the phone so we know what he was doing, he was walking and saw some one following him so he walked faster then the guy kept following him so he began to run then the phone drops and the end result is Trayson dead.
If your being stalked and you try to get away and you can't what do you do and when you do it what is it?

If your being stalked and you try to get away and you can't

Zimmermann lost track of him. Trayvon had already gotten away.

what do you do

Apparently, you circle back, assault the guy legally following you and catch a bullet.
what do you do

 

[rdean]

He wasn't doing anything wrong, so yeah, he was innocent.

Neither was Zimmerman, does that make him innocent too?

Liberals consider any attempt to protect yourself or your neighborhood, rather than huddling behind locked doors and praying the police handle things, to be wrong.

Why would you say something so stupid? To me, it looks like the neighborhood needs to be protected from Zimmerman. He's the one who shot some random kid walking down the street minding his own business.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You and/or your "chart" left off the part about the possibility that Trayvon initiated the physical confrontation with Zimmerman.

And you left out the part where possibly Trayvon did so by punching Zimmerman, knocking him to the ground, getting ON top of Zimmerman and pounding his skull into the concrete.

And you left out how, IF that had not happened, Trayvon might be alive and fine today.

Oh you fucking idiots crack me up. Always with the hyperbolic shit about Zimmerman getting his head brutally pounded into the concrete... and yet claiming it's not surprising he doesn't have a concussion and didn't require any medical attention at all... not even a bandaid or stitches for his wounds.

Where is Zimmerman's DNA on Martin's hands or fingernails, if martin was pounding his head into the ground? Surely there'd be something.

Cowpaddy:

You don't know whether or not Zimmerman had a concussion. And getting a concussion is not a prerequisite to believing that the guy doing such things to you (if that is what happened) is in the process of killing you or getting to the point where your life or health are at grave risk.

And no. There is no requirement, either, that Martin would have any dug his fingers into Zimmerman sufficiently to dig up any skin cells. There is ZERO factual basis for your silly contention that IF Martin had banged Zimmerman's head onto the sidewalk Zimmerman's DNA WOULD be found on Martin's fingers, either.

In short, to nobody's great surprise, you are merely spouting off without the first hint on the subject matter.

You may not appreciate it, but others see it. YOU are engaging in pure speculation.

You are indeed the idiot.

DNA on his hands or not, no one is disputing that the two men struggled, so Cowpie's apparent plan of proving that Martin and Zimmerman never came into physical contact is fairly stupid at the outset. I don't know that the autopsy would even have looked that hard for DNA, considering that that struggle is not in question.

 

[rdean]

You have NO idea what he was or wasn't doing. If he attacked Zimmerman for the "offense" of being followed by Zimmerman, he WAS doing something wrong, for example.

Actually Trayson was on the phone so we know what he was doing, he was walking and saw some one following him so he walked faster then the guy kept following him so he began to run then the phone drops and the end result is Trayson dead.
If your being stalked and you try to get away and you can't what do you do and when you do it what is it?

If your being stalked and you try to get away and you can't

Zimmermann lost track of him. Trayvon had already gotten away.

what do you do

Apparently, you circle back, assault the guy legally following you and catch a bullet.
what do you do

Or you get tired of being chased and you stand your ground not knowing your stalker had a concealed weapon. Remember, Trayvon was just a kid.

 

[Cecilie1200]

He wasn't doing anything wrong, so yeah, he was innocent.

You have NO idea what he was or wasn't doing. If he attacked Zimmerman for the "offense" of being followed by Zimmerman, he WAS doing something wrong, for example.

Actually Trayson was on the phone so we know what he was doing, he was walking and saw some one following him so he walked faster then the guy kept following him so he began to run then the phone drops and the end result is Trayson dead.
If your being stalked and you try to get away and you can't what do you do and when you do it what is it?

Actually, Martin was on the phone, so we know WHAT SOME UNKNOWN WOMAN SAYS HE WAS DOING. Amazingly enough, her word for it is not only NOT the only evidence we have of that night, it's also NOT stand-alone proof of anything.

Keep proclaiming your one treasured bit of testimony as THE only piece of evidence so I can keep laughing at you. I'm sure you're used to that from women by now.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No according to the phone call and girl who heard the situation as it happened
Martin was being chased by Zimmerman.
Basically you are just making shit up based on no facts.
Why is it that you will make shit up when someone is dead, with
a mourning family and a potential murder? Are you that deranged?

Following =/= Chasing or Running

Oh I see so following and then running after someone is not chasing or running... Get a clue

How about you "clue" us in to any proof that Zimmerman ran anywhere that night?

Your posts are a joke, YOU are a joke, your entire existence is like God one day told the world, "April Fools!" and there you were.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Wait so according to you someone being on the phone and hearing all this happen is speculation...
Do you know what speculation is?
Speculation would be if I said that the above scenario happened with out knowing it, but since we have a phone call and a girl who HEARD it happen we know it happened.
Notice how ally ou said wasw "you stupid" its good bets that the stupid person is the person who can only call people stupid but can't actually say sometihng intellgent or add to the discussion

No, jizzwad, someone being on the phone and SAYING she heard all this, with no way to prove it either way, and you accepting it as gospel truth, is speculation.

And the good bet is that the stupid person is the one who's so incoherent, he can't even post a sensible return insult. Way to prove to everyone that you're not stupid, Einstein.

I see so there is nothing to back Zimmerman being attack but theirs a phone call from Trayson and a Phone call from Zimmerman that show he was not attacked so according to you it means he was attacked. Jesus how many logical jumps are you going to make?

Pathetic loser.

 

[Cecilie1200]

He wasn't doing anything wrong, so yeah, he was innocent.

Neither was Zimmerman, does that make him innocent too?

So following someone and then running after them with a gun after being told by the cops and the end result is a dead person isn't wrong. Seriously? Seriously?

Do you believe everything women tell you, shitforbrains? Because I have a story for you about how you need to clean out your bank account and turn that $4.32 over to me.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wait so according to you someone being on the phone and hearing all this happen is speculation...
Do you know what speculation is?
Speculation would be if I said that the above scenario happened with out knowing it, but since we have a phone call and a girl who HEARD it happen we know it happened.
Notice how ally ou said wasw "you stupid" its good bets that the stupid person is the person who can only call people stupid but can't actually say sometihng intellgent or add to the discussion

No, jizzwad, someone being on the phone and SAYING she heard all this, with no way to prove it either way, and you accepting it as gospel truth, is speculation.

And the good bet is that the stupid person is the one who's so incoherent, he can't even post a sensible return insult. Way to prove to everyone that you're not stupid, Einstein.

I see so there is nothing to back Zimmerman being attack but theirs a phone call from Trayson and a Phone call from Zimmerman that show he was not attacked so according to you it means he was attacked. Jesus how many logical jumps are you going to make?

I see so there is nothing to back Zimmerman being attack

Except his bloody head wounds and facial injuries.
And the winesses who said they saw Trayvon hitting him.
Other than that, nothing.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Um can you not read? We have a phone call with a girl who heard all this happen. So no I was not there but someone else was and what I posted is her story.
But go on bealviing that girl who was on the phone with the kid who died while he was killed is full of shit but a racist with a gun who chased down some black kid who had candy and a soda and killed him is telling the truth

Um. YOU obviously CAN'T read. Go back, find the bolded words, and get someone to tell you what they mean, shitstain.

But go on believing that all of the evidence is wrong, EXCEPT what supports what you want to believe. Go on believing that you KNOW Zimmerman is a racist . . . with no evidence to support it. Go on believing Zimmerman "chased him down" . . . with no evidence to support it. Go on believing that every piece of evidence that contradicts what you want to believe is crap, but that "chick's" hearsay is gospel goddamn truth.

I won't even bother to ask you where the proof is of the content of that conversation, because asking for proof is something I do with REAL posters, and you're just a pathetic little dribble of comedy relief for everyone to mock. You might as well put on a jester costume and hit yourself in the face with pies.

Except there is no evidence that shows Zimmerman is innocent. Its hard to believe in something that isnt' really unless of course you're Cecilie.
I'm pretty sure that being on a phone and hearing the whole thing happen as it occurred isn't hearsay but then again I know what hearsay means.

In the world of Starcrap, where the ONLY evidence in this case is the hearsay of a woman who claims to be Trayvon's girlfriend (Yeah, no motivation to lie THERE), then no, there's no evidence that Zimmerman is innocent.

In the world of REAL human beings with functioning brains, there's ALL KINDS of evidence that Zimmerman is innocent, which would be why the State Attorney's office declined to charge him until liberal idiots who are only marginally more intelligent than Starcrap - because, after all, my dog's turds are smarter than Starcrap - whipped up a racial witch hunt.

You know what hearsay means, do you? Then why don't you explain to us how Martin's girlfriend's testimony doesn't qualify as hearsay? I could use a good laugh, and I really don't want you posting any pictures of yourself naked, so we'll go with another lame-ass attempt to explain why you're not a drooling mouthbreather.

Lay it on us.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh I see so following and then running after someone is not chasing or running... Get a clue

There really is no evidence, much less "proof," that Zimmerman "ran."

But, let's not quibble.

Let's pretend that the proof is there.

Ok.

So, in following a guy he found suspicious who was getting away -- after the neighborhood watch guy had called the police about him -- Zimmerman chose to "run."

And?

In your twisted little mind, does this justify Martin turning around on Zimmerman and attacking him (if Zimmerman didn't touch Martin first)?

I'm pretty sure you aren't going to try to claim that there's ANY evidence that Zimmerman touched Martin before Martin struck Zimmerman. Are you?

Did you realize that being followed (even by a guy who is "running") is NOT a crime and does not constitute an "attack?"

Jesus who knewe that a phone call with a girl witness on the phone is no evidence.
When you have to ignore/deny evidence its apparent your full of shit

Every cop, lawyer, and reasonably intelligent adult in the country knew it. Also most of the people who know how to spell "knew". Which explains why YOU didn't, because "ignorant, fly-riddled piles of cow vomit" are not on that list.

 

[Cecilie1200]

-- Nation & World | At heart of Trayvon Martin death, a one-minute mystery | Seattle Times Newspaper

The pdf of the autopsy report says 71 inches (i.e., 5' 11") and 158 pounds. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf?hpt=hp_t2

Try to be factually accurate, stupid, when you are attempting to chastise others for not being as accurate as you demand.

And let's not forget that it was Trayvon Martin's own family who told us he was over 6 feet tall.

Yeah but, WTF do THEY know, eh?

Well, apparently they don't know his height and weight.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

He wasn't doing anything wrong, so yeah, he was innocent.

Neither was Zimmerman, does that make him innocent too?

So following someone and then running after them with a gun after being told by the cops and the end result is a dead person isn't wrong. Seriously? Seriously?

Did he do that? Do you have any evidence of that?