Giuliani drops another Biden bomb: "Keep your eye on Romania'

[Lesh]

And Rudy the Ghoul has his own problems

 

[tycho1572]

It looks like the whole damn Obama admin was on the take....

It’s why he was loved by democrats.

 

[tycho1572]

Democrats are fighting Trump because he’s going to expose the corruption they’ve been benefiting from.

 

[basquebromance]

Conducting an impeachment investigation behind closed doors isn’t just unprecedented—it’s un-American

if the Democrats impeach Trump...God will impeach America!

 

[ThisIsMe]

I believe the house rules still stand, the judiciary committee must be the ones to initiate an impeachment inquiry

So? Why do they need to vote on an initiative when they already have subpoena power? Sure, it would be a nice gesture to the minority party to allow them some subpoena power of there own but, like the Grimm Reaper's move to deny a nominee to the SC a hearing, it's not against the Constitution, even though it would have been a nice gesture to the minority.

What im saying is, pelosi cannot call for an impeachment or an impeachment inquiry. House rules state those must come from judiciary via a proposed resolution by the chair. That proposition must be voted on.

So, this inquiry is currently against the rules of the house.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The impeachment process begins in the House of Representatives where the House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to even proceed with impeachment. Provided they do, the Chairman of the Committee proposes a resolution calling for a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.

What Are the Requirements to Impeach a President?

So, according to this, it's all up to judiciary, not the speaker. Notice it says the chairman of the committee has to call for a resolution for a formal inquiry. This means it has to be voted on

Nope
From NPR
Must the House vote to conduct an impeachment inquiry?

Cipollone wrote: "the House of Representatives has never attempted to launch an impeachment inquiry against the President without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision by voting to authorize such a dramatic constitutional step."

The House has taken such a formal step in the past, including most recently with the impeachment of then-President Bill Clinton.

Pelosi has not called for such a vote but announced last month that the House is conducting "an official impeachment inquiry."

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However, a former senior House Republican aide told NPR that "there is a difference between what the House should do and what the House has to do."

The former aide, an expert on House rules who asked not to be identified because he is criticizing his own party, argued that it's best practice to have a vote of the full House.

But there is nothing in the Constitution or in the rules of the House that compel a full House vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Pelosi is breaking with precedent but not rules or the law.

What Are the Requirements to Impeach a President?

No, the full house doesnt need to vote, but the judiciary committee does

 

[ThisIsMe]

The request is referred to the House Judiciary Committee which forwards it to the Subcommittee on the Constitution. The Subcommittee then investigates the complaints and, if there is merit to the charges, Articles of Impeachment describing the specific offense(s) are prepared. Those Articles are forwarded to the full Judiciary Committee for a vote. If approved, the Articles are sent to the full House for a vote.

The Impeachment Process

The House brings impeachment charges against federal officials as part of its oversight and investigatory responsibilities. Individual Members of the House can introduce impeachment resolutions like ordinary bills, or the House could initiate proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry. The Committee on the Judiciary ordinarily has jurisdiction over impeachments, but special committees investigated charges before the Judiciary Committee was created in 1813. The committee then chooses whether to pursue articles of impeachment against the accused official and report them to the full House.

Impeachment | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

Again, it appears that all of this is supposed to begin in judiciary, and any action is supposed to be in the form of a proposed resolution, voted on by the whole committee.

 

[Lesh]

The impeachment process begins in the House of Representatives where the House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to even proceed with impeachment. Provided they do, the Chairman of the Committee proposes a resolution calling for a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.

What Are the Requirements to Impeach a President?

So, according to this, it's all up to judiciary, not the speaker. Notice it says the chairman of the committee has to call for a resolution for a formal inquiry. This means it has to be voted on

Nope
From NPR
Must the House vote to conduct an impeachment inquiry?

Cipollone wrote: "the House of Representatives has never attempted to launch an impeachment inquiry against the President without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision by voting to authorize such a dramatic constitutional step."

The House has taken such a formal step in the past, including most recently with the impeachment of then-President Bill Clinton.

Pelosi has not called for such a vote but announced last month that the House is conducting "an official impeachment inquiry."

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Why Ukraine Is At The Center Of The Impeachment Inquiry

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However, a former senior House Republican aide told NPR that "there is a difference between what the House should do and what the House has to do."

The former aide, an expert on House rules who asked not to be identified because he is criticizing his own party, argued that it's best practice to have a vote of the full House.

But there is nothing in the Constitution or in the rules of the House that compel a full House vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Pelosi is breaking with precedent but not rules or the law.

What Are the Requirements to Impeach a President?

No, the full house doesnt need to vote, but the judiciary committee does

Nope. It does NOT have to begin in the Judiciary.

 

[Lesh]

https://naturalresources.house.gov/imo/media/doc/116-House-Rules-Clerk.pdf

Nope
From NPR
Must the House vote to conduct an impeachment inquiry?

Cipollone wrote: "the House of Representatives has never attempted to launch an impeachment inquiry against the President without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision by voting to authorize such a dramatic constitutional step."

The House has taken such a formal step in the past, including most recently with the impeachment of then-President Bill Clinton.

Pelosi has not called for such a vote but announced last month that the House is conducting "an official impeachment inquiry."

POLITICS
Why Ukraine Is At The Center Of The Impeachment Inquiry

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However, a former senior House Republican aide told NPR that "there is a difference between what the House should do and what the House has to do."

The former aide, an expert on House rules who asked not to be identified because he is criticizing his own party, argued that it's best practice to have a vote of the full House.

But there is nothing in the Constitution or in the rules of the House that compel a full House vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Pelosi is breaking with precedent but not rules or the law.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

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Well, y'all might want to catch up the latest about Giuliani. He's toast. And Trump is so deep into Russian help for his elections, he couldn't get out of it now if he tried.

Two Giuliani Associates Who Helped Him on Ukraine Charged With Campaign-Finance Violations


""Two Giuliani Associates Who Helped Him on Ukraine Charged With Campaign-Finance Violations
Prosecutors say Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were part of a conspiracy to funnel a Russian donor’s money into President Trump’s campaign"""

WASHINGTON—Two Soviet-born donors to a pro- Trump fundraising committee who helped Rudy Giuliani’s efforts to investigate Democrat Joe Biden were arrested late Wednesday on criminal charges of violating campaign finance rules, including funneling Russian money into President Trump’s campaign.

""""Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Florida businessmen, have been under investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan, and are expected to appear in federal court in Virginia later on Thursday, the people said. Both men were born in former Soviet republics.

House committees issued subpoenas for documents from the two men on Thursday.

Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s private lawyer, identified the two men in May as his clients....."


OOPSIE!

Another "Anonymous Sources say".... Gawd you people are pathetic and pathological liars...

Excuse me? My post above does not have anonymous sources quoted. It's about the actual arrest of these two Russians.
It's not from Facebook, idiot. It's from the Wall Street Journal.
Sorry reality isn't suiting you very well.

Were they the ones who pranked Shitt on YouTube?


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[Butch_Coolidge]

On Tuesday we reported that a Ukrainian member of parliament revealed additional corruption involving former VP Joe Biden, who — according to the lawmaker — received upwards of $900,000 in laundered ‘lobbying’ money at a time when he was working on behalf of the Obama regime to undermine that country’s legitimate corruption investigations.

On Tuesday evening, Rudy Giuliani, legal counsel for President Trump, went on “Hannity” to explain in further detail the corruption allegation and add some additional details.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalsentinel.com ...

Russia, Ukraine, Romania......his son with CHINA! What next? Georgia, Moldova, Hungary or Bulgaria?

The Obama Administration:

Putin's Personal Butt Puppets.

Let me get into my second term, and........


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[Butch_Coolidge]

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Well, y'all might want to catch up the latest about Giuliani. He's toast. And Trump is so deep into Russian help for his elections, he couldn't get out of it now if he tried.

Two Giuliani Associates Who Helped Him on Ukraine Charged With Campaign-Finance Violations


""Two Giuliani Associates Who Helped Him on Ukraine Charged With Campaign-Finance Violations
Prosecutors say Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were part of a conspiracy to funnel a Russian donor’s money into President Trump’s campaign"""

WASHINGTON—Two Soviet-born donors to a pro- Trump fundraising committee who helped Rudy Giuliani’s efforts to investigate Democrat Joe Biden were arrested late Wednesday on criminal charges of violating campaign finance rules, including funneling Russian money into President Trump’s campaign.

""""Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Florida businessmen, have been under investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan, and are expected to appear in federal court in Virginia later on Thursday, the people said. Both men were born in former Soviet republics.

House committees issued subpoenas for documents from the two men on Thursday.

Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s private lawyer, identified the two men in May as his clients....."


OOPSIE!

Another "Anonymous Sources say".... Gawd you people are pathetic and pathological liars...

Excuse me? My post above does not have anonymous sources quoted. It's about the actual arrest of these two Russians.
It's not from Facebook, idiot. It's from the Wall Street Journal.
Sorry reality isn't suiting you very well.

They are Ukraine and American citizens. Left that out, didn’t ya? Pretty unusual for campaign finance violations to bring about criminal charges...
Oh, that’s right, they brought info regarding Biden and corruption to Giuliani, and suddenly they are now arrested! No coincidence. None at all. Uhn uh, no coincidence at all...

The charges are frivolous and will be thrown out. This is an attempt to intimidate these people and discredit them. It wont work.. ANOTHER BOOMERANG THAT IS ABOUT TO BUST DEMOCRATS IN THE CHOPS..

When they are exonerated its going to blow up in Democrats faces..

For five more years.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

On Tuesday we reported that a Ukrainian member of parliament revealed additional corruption involving former VP Joe Biden, who — according to the lawmaker — received upwards of $900,000 in laundered ‘lobbying’ money at a time when he was working on behalf of the Obama regime to undermine that country’s legitimate corruption investigations.

On Tuesday evening, Rudy Giuliani, legal counsel for President Trump, went on “Hannity” to explain in further detail the corruption allegation and add some additional details.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalsentinel.com ...

Russia, Ukraine, Romania......his son with CHINA! What next? Georgia, Moldova, Hungary or Bulgaria?

The $900,000 Biden thing was fake, dumbass. Try to keep up.

As for Giuliani, he better watch his back. All kinds of slime and ooze on his client list is coming to light. Money launderers, US sanctions violators. There is no one too crooked or anti-American for Crazy Eyes Rudy to take some pieces of silver from.

How the fuck was that "fake"?

The story claimed Joe Biden was paid $900,000 by Burisma.

That's fake news. Literally.

The money was paid to Hunter Biden's company. As we already knew BEFORE this fake story.

All caught up now?

Who gave daddy his cut, and smoked the rest.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

This is why the Dims are moving now to impeach Trump in the Kangaroo court that does not allow Trump due process and shuts the GOP out entirely.

If by some outrageous circumstance the Senate upholds the rigged impeachment in the House, there will be a civil war, do not doubt it.

If Trump is impeached by the House, he will get his due process in the Senate trial.

Then he can be put under oath and asked about his sex life, like Clinton was.

Let's do it!

If Trump answers truthfully, he has nothing to worry about. To bad Clinton couldn't do it.

There were illegal payments made to Stormy. And Trump colluded with a foreign power to help him defeat a political opponent.

He has plenty to worry about under oath. And plenty to worry about from his third wife.

That’s why Sloppy is paying his legal fees, and 50 something million turned up nothing in the fake collusion investigation?


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[Butch_Coolidge]

If Trump answers truthfully, he has nothing to worry about. To bad Clinton couldn't do it.

There were illegal payments made to Stormy. And Trump colluded with a foreign power to help him defeat a political opponent.

He has plenty to worry about under oath. And plenty to worry about from his third wife.

Still with Russian collusion? Yep, any day now. You forget Stormy ended up paying him.

There was an illegal payment made to Stormy. You can try to toss out red herrings, but it won't work.

And I did not say Russian collusion. Trump colluded with Zelensky.

But the fact Trump had just gotten out from under the Russia investigation and immediately colluded with Zelensky make sme wonder if maybe he did directly collude with Putin after all.

I never though Trump was stupid enough to directly collude, and said so many times on this forum. His underlings most certainly did. But I didn't think Trump was that stupid.

But now...I don't know. His call to Zelensky proves he IS that stupid.

All I know is, after the Muller investigation. We know Trump is the cleanest president in history. Muller has unlimited resources and money to find anything on Trump and still couldn't do it.

He found a lot of dirt just not a much as democrats hoped for and more than republicans wanted.

And nothing to charge him with.


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[francoHFW]

It looks like the whole damn Obama admin was on the take....

Are you surprised? The whole dayum bunch is as cooked and corrupt as a dog's hind leg and have been for a long long time.

So many conspiracy nut jobs in the GOP. And on Fox Rush etc etc pathetic. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty. Like your Trump lawyers?

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

You must be referring to Julie his two russian mob friends arrested today with a one way ticket at airport probably bought by your orange turd.

Trumps one and only 'crime' was in beating the Witch Hillary in 2016.

With any luck he'll get to do it again in 2020.

No way. Didn’t you see her recent video from the looney bin? Her daughter was visiting, and she claimed she could beat him again. She had to cut the interview short, cause it was close to dinner time.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

You must be referring to Julie his two russian mob friends arrested today with a one way ticket at airport probably bought by your orange turd.

Trumps one and only 'crime' was in beating the Witch Hillary in 2016.

With any luck he'll get to do it again in 2020.

So who was talking about hillary? Always have to deflect and BTW you righties talk about the deep state, just look at trump he's about as deep as you can get.

In your head.


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[Lesh]

You must be referring to Julie his two russian mob friends arrested today with a one way ticket at airport probably bought by your orange turd.

Trumps one and only 'crime' was in beating the Witch Hillary in 2016.

With any luck he'll get to do it again in 2020.

No way. Didn’t you see her recent video from the looney bin? Her daughter was visiting, and she claimed she could beat him again. She had to cut the interview short, cause it was close to dinner time.


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Dude. Put the drinks down and step away from the computer before you hurt yourself

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

You must be referring to Julie his two russian mob friends arrested today with a one way ticket at airport probably bought by your orange turd.

Trumps one and only 'crime' was in beating the Witch Hillary in 2016.

With any luck he'll get to do it again in 2020.

No way. Didn’t you see her recent video from the looney bin? Her daughter was visiting, and she claimed she could beat him again. She had to cut the interview short, cause it was close to dinner time.


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Dude. Put the drinks down and step away from the computer before you hurt yourself

She could beat him again? When was the first time?


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