235 Years

[SeaMajor7]

I was just having a conversation with a friend along the same lines. 8 years ago if you told me Trump would be the nominee again after being a convicted felon, being found liable for rape, being found liable for tax fraud, being charged for plotting to overturn the election, being found guilty of covering up an adulterous affair with a star of pornographic films, being charged for the theft of classified documents including violating a subpoena demanding their return, violating gag orders, threatening members of the court, botching the response to COVID, taking Putin's side over the IC, extorting a foreign leader over help with his re-election, I would not have believed you.

I under estimated the blind allegiance of his cult.

Did your "friend" slap you upside your head and tell you that you're a fucking lunatic?
If not, they're no "friend" of yours at all.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ruling said that a pardon is not an official act?

You sure about that one dummy?

Ruling never made taking a bribe an official act.

English: read it

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ruling said that a pardon is not an official act?

You sure about that one dummy?

 

[jc456]

Thats right, run along dummy, you have nothing.

post the part that says 'absolute' in the ruling.

 

[Mac1958]

I was just having a conversation with a friend along the same lines. 8 years ago if you told me Trump would be the nominee again after being a convicted felon, being found liable for rape, being found liable for tax fraud, being charged for plotting to overturn the election, being found guilty of covering up an adulterous affair with a star of pornographic films, being charged for the theft of classified documents including violating a subpoena demanding their return, violating gag orders, threatening members of the court, botching the response to COVID, taking Putin's side over the IC, extorting a foreign leader over help with his re-election, I would not have believed you.

I under estimated the blind allegiance of his cult.

Much of the country had no idea how miserable and desperate these people have been, manipulated by the voices they trust. That's why they're willing to ignore, dismiss and forgive virtually anything. It was there for a long time, growing under the surface.

They figure this is their best shot, Good vs. Evil, and they're at war. They're going for it, 100%. Either their way, or bring it down.

Uh, they're the "Good", by the way.

 

[jc456]

The official act is the pardon dummy. Reason for the act can't be prosecuted according to the rulling.

why? taking a bribe is personal.

 

[jc456]

Much of the country had no idea how miserable and desperate these people have been, manipulated by the voices they trust. That's why they're willing to ignore, dismiss and forgive virtually anything. It was there for a long time, growing under the surface.

They figure this is their best shot, Good vs. Evil, and they're at war. They're going for it, 100%. Either their way, or bring it down.

Uh, they're the "Good", by the way.

why do you get so manipulated to such things?

 

[Mac1958]

why do you get so manipulated to such things?

Mac nails it again.

 

[jc456]

Mac nails it again.

so they do manipulate you!! Good to know. I sort of figured it.

 

[jc456]

so they do manipulate you!! Good to know. I sort of figured it.

Mac1958 , anytime, I will always call out your short comings!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ruling never made taking a bribe an official act.

English: read it

Nope, but a prior ruling said that getting the payment after the fact means it is not a bribe.

 

[Billiejeens]

Mac1958 , anytime, I will always call out your short comings!

You really need a full-time job like that?

 

[jc456]

You really need a full-time job like that?

fulltime, naw, just every one of his desperate posts. Takes a few minutes here and there.

 

[AntonToo]

And that 2nd component is not an official act.

There is no bribery without BOTH components - the payment AND the official act it supposedly caused.

Prosecutorial presumption, no matter the evidence of corrupt intent, is that the official act was legitimate.

Thats what you fools can't get through your heads.

If you read Robert's opinion this shit is covered in it.

Presuming (just for one second) you are not a total hypocrite and actually read it, go ahead and explain what would allow criminal prosecution of a POTUS for taking a nice fat "gift" for an official act of a pardon.

 

[Billiejeens]

There is no bribery without BOTH components - the payment AND the official act it supposedly caused.

Prosecutorial presumption, no matter the evidence of corrupt intent, is that the official act was legitimate.

Thats what you fools can't get through your heads.


Presuming (just for one second) you are not a total hypocrite and actually read it, go ahead and explain what would allow prosecution of a POTUS for taking a "gift" for an official act of a pardon.

Because your lunacy has no basis in fact.

 

[martybegan]

There is no bribery without BOTH components - the payment AND the official act it supposedly caused.

Prosecutorial presumption, no matter the evidence of corrupt intent, is that the official act was legitimate.

Thats what you fools can't get through your heads.


Presuming (just for one second) you are not a total hypocrite and actually read it, go ahead and explain what would allow prosecution of a POTUS for taking a payment for an official act of a pardon.

And the Bribery is enough to warrant impeachment, followed by prosecution under the numerous bribery statutes.

And what you morons don't get is MOST government officials get immunity, even if qualified.

The payment is the crime, and taking payments for a pardon is not an official act, even if the pardon is.

Get it, dipshit?

 

[AntonToo]

Morning recap.

The high court ruled 6-3 along ideological lines that certain official acts by presidents are not prosecutable at all, while other official acts require the government to meet high criteria before it can criminally charge a president for them. The ruling was a massive blow to Jack Smith’s case, which could look like a shell of its former self once the lower courts have sifted through it to align it with the Supreme Court’s guidance.

The high court’s majority divided presidential acts into three categories:

official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution,

official acts that are presumptively immune from prosecution until the government can prove the prosecution would not threaten the authority of the executive branch,

and unofficial acts, which can always be prosecuted.

One more time, together
official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution

One more
official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution

Just one more since you still don't fucking get it
official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution

A pardon is a core presidential power and so any such act, no matter how corrupt, is....wait for it...absolutely immune from prosecution

 

[martybegan]

One more time, together
official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution

One more
official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution

Just one more since you still don't fucking get it
official acts that are absolutely immune from prosecution

You still don't realize Presidents have had this all along, because you are a fucking tool.

You still don't realize Presidents have had this all along, because you are a fucking tool.

You still don't realize Presidents have had this all along, because you are a fucking tool.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

That's not what happened you fucking pathetic asshole.

That's exactly what happened, windbag.

 

[jc456]

And the Bribery is enough to warrant impeachment, followed by prosecution under the numerous bribery statutes.

And what you morons don't get is MOST government officials get immunity, even if qualified.

The payment is the crime, and taking payments for a pardon is not an official act, even if the pardon is.

Get it, dipshit?

it's a gift and not allowed. why can't demofks figure this shit out. I tell you!