Global Warming is such Wooly Mammoth Crap.

[Old Rocks]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now.

How many trillions should we spend on windmills to make it like it was when you were a kid?
How will we know when we can stop?

Now really dumb fuck, no one is forcing all those windmills being built in Texas. They are built because they provide cheaper electricity than does coal burning plants. Even dirty coal burning plants. We are going to spend trillions worldwide for energy, so we should buy the most economical energy available, and that is now renewables.

 

[Old Rocks]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now.

How many trillions should we spend on windmills to make it like it was when you were a kid?
How will we know when we can stop?

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now.

How many trillions should we spend on windmills to make it like it was when you were a kid?
How will we know when we can stop?

Good question. I don't know how many windmills. I can't tell you how long. Probably longer than it took to get here.

You don't know either. i don't know what your idea of development and use of resources is but whatever we do it needs to be sustainable where ever possible.

I don't know how many windmills. I can't tell you how long.

You want us to spend trillions on unreliable "sustainable" energy and you don't know the answers?

Why don't we forget the windmills and build some reliable nuclear reactors instead?

Two good reasons. Nuclear power is very expensive. And, were someone to pop a nuclear bomb off at a nuclear power station, it would poison half the nation.

 

[Old Rocks]

Okay , if i can prove that the data has been fucked with, will you kiss my ass?

Sure. Conversely, you have to kiss our ass if we show you're pushing fraud.

So, your link was a rambling opinion piece by Christoopher Booker, a well-know journalist anti-science crank who has no experience in any field of science, fabricating claims of fraud. Booker also denies evolution, that asbestos is harmful, that second-hand smoke is harmful, and that DDT is harmful. He's a crank and fraud on multiple topics, and you suck his ass. Just making it clear where we both stand. You suck the asses of frauds, and we reject frauds.

So, pucker up, snowflake. And try to understand that you won't make your fraud less fraudulent by repeating it over and over. I suggest you give up this scam. You're literally too goddamned stupid to understand the topic, so you can only post links to subjects you don't understand, and that will always leave you humiliated.

2nd hand smoke is not harmful you moron it has been proven...


It was another bullshit like by your assnine cult .

Ah yes, just ask anyone with asthma. You are one stupid ass.

 

[IanC]

Yes, yes, 95% of Climate scientist are getting it wrong, but you can read a graph, you think. Got it.

Those who are familiar with the science know that the total adjustments have, by making the past look much warmer, made the current warming look much smaller. That's not debatable, and that means Ian's crank conspiracy theory goes into the shitcan. Not that Ian will care. He's a true believer. His cult tells him to believe, so like every other denier here he'll keep cherrypicking his heart out until reality matches his dogma. He's not as dumb as the other deniers, but he is just as fanatical and brainwashed

The denier cult is based entirely on faking data. Fraud is what deniers do. It's all deniers do. If a denier says something, experience shows one should initially assume it's a lie, unless independent evidence indicates otherwise.

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The thing you have to remember about mamooth is that he is a shyster. Three card monte, pea under the thimble, a huckster.

He tries to convince us that all adjustments are suitable because ONE large sea surface temperature correction went in the opposite direction. He wants us to ignore all the other adjustments since then.

In the 90s they just couldn't get the climate models to work with raw sea surface data so they made a large correction to compensate for going from canvas buckets to water intakes. A necessary but still discretionary adjustment.

Land surface station coverage is poor, especially before, say, 1950. But sea surface coverage is pathetic to non-existent for that period.

The poo flinging monkey likes to put up this graph as proof-

What does this graph imply? That post 1950 readings have hardly been adjusted, and that pre 1950 readings have been warmed. Say what????? That can't be right!

How the hell did they pull that off? Have you figured it out? Kept track of the pea under the thimble? Figured out which card is the queen of spades? Hahahaha.

Ian, old chap, you are losing it. Were they to adjust data to support increasing global warming, they would have made the older data cooler so as to show a larger warming. What they did was review the data, and adjust it for what they found in the review.

Hahahaha. I already told you that the models they wanted to use were incompatible with the raw figures for sea surface temperature. They had to get them to align better with land temperatures. So they did, with a large adjustment for the change in measurement method.

Land temperatures are more volatile than water temperatures but the land can only get a certain amount out of sync before the greater heat capacity of the oceans brings them back to reflect what the oceans are doing. The same can be said for the atmosphere.

So what did I mean when I asked if you were keeping your eye on the pea under one of the three thimbles?

I could have been more direct and simply asked what was happening to land temperatures while the sea surface readings we're being cranked up. But what is the fun in that?

!!! Ocean temps were massively adjusted up and land temps were only hugely adjusted down! This put the land and ocean temperatures into a relationship that could now be explained by AGW modeling.

I could go on and on. What happens if you normalize the graph so that the temperatures are equal at the beginning of the graph instead of the end? And what about the maturity graphs that show cooling off the past and warming of the recent? That's in just ten years of constantly changing adjustments from 2008. The main large adjustments had ALREADY been made by 2008!

Don't even get me started on homogenization.

 

[IanC]

That is why I consider this graph to be misleading.

Yes, there was one very large adjustment to bring ocean and land temperatures back into a more realistic relationship. But we have practically no ocean data from back then so it's all a guess anyways. The land data was better but it was adjusted down. Urbanization has increased temperatures in places that humans live and record temperatures. That means we should be either warming past records or cooling recent ones. Yet the opposite has occurred, and is still occuring.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up.

So if the planet continues to heat up year after year, and records are set, over and over, the temperature is rising to alarming levels? Where does the record cold come from?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Okay , if i can prove that the data has been fucked with, will you kiss my ass?

Sure. Conversely, you have to kiss our ass if we show you're pushing fraud.

So, your link was a rambling opinion piece by Christoopher Booker, a well-know journalist anti-science crank who has no experience in any field of science, fabricating claims of fraud. Booker also denies evolution, that asbestos is harmful, that second-hand smoke is harmful, and that DDT is harmful. He's a crank and fraud on multiple topics, and you suck his ass. Just making it clear where we both stand. You suck the asses of frauds, and we reject frauds.

So, pucker up, snowflake. And try to understand that you won't make your fraud less fraudulent by repeating it over and over. I suggest you give up this scam. You're literally too goddamned stupid to understand the topic, so you can only post links to subjects you don't understand, and that will always leave you humiliated.

Govt-Funded Research Unit Destroyed Original Climate Data

In mid-August the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU) disclosed that it had destroyed the raw data for its global surface temperature data set because of an alleged lack of storage space. The CRU data have been the basis for several of the major international studies that claim we face a global warming crisis. CRU’s destruction of data, however, severely undercuts the credibility of those studies.

I haven't wiped my ass for a week now, better get ready to kiss some shit...

 

[social philosopher]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up.

So if the planet continues to heat up year after year, and records are set, over and over, the temperature is rising to alarming levels? Where does the record cold come from?

There may be record cold in some places, but the polar caps are receding and high glaciers are disappearing. Ice diesn't melt because it's cold.

 

[Taz]

Milder winters, longer growing seasons, higher crop yields......we're doomed!!!

droughts, more extreme weather, shifting of the gulf stream... um, yeah, we would be.

Not doomed, but handing our children and grandchildren a much lesser world than we inherited.

This was happening any way regardless if man was here or not...

You want to leave them a world of crap sky high Electric prices sky high taxes ..


A sihitty ass world

So for you, it's all about money?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up.

So if the planet continues to heat up year after year, and records are set, over and over, the temperature is rising to alarming levels? Where does the record cold come from?

There may be record cold in some places, but the polar caps are receding and high glaciers are disappearing. Ice diesn't melt because it's cold.

but the polar caps are receding and high glaciers are disappearing. Ice diesn't melt because it's cold

Yeah, ice doesn't melt when it is cold, but why is there an increase of ice caps by 29%, are you saying that it is cold?
And now it's global COOLING! Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29% in a year | Daily Mail Online

And now it's global COOLING! Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29% in a year

• 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012
• BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog

December 13, 2017 | 7:02 AM ET
Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around...
Good morning everyone. Happy Wednesday!

It’s a bitter cold midweek with windchills in the single digits and teens for millions this morning across the Great Lakes, Northeast, and Mid-Atlantic over the next few days.

So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now.

How many trillions should we spend on windmills to make it like it was when you were a kid?
How will we know when we can stop?

Now really dumb fuck, no one is forcing all those windmills being built in Texas. They are built because they provide cheaper electricity than does coal burning plants. Even dirty coal burning plants. We are going to spend trillions worldwide for energy, so we should buy the most economical energy available, and that is now renewables.

no one is forcing all those windmills being built in Texas.

Gotta get that tax credit!!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now.

How many trillions should we spend on windmills to make it like it was when you were a kid?
How will we know when we can stop?

Bitter cold windchills and snow stick around… « FOX News Weather Blog So lets try this again.

Back in 2000 Al Gore said that the Earth was going to burn up in 10 years if the United States didn't do something about it. The Earth is still here.
Back in 2006 Al Gore produced an Inconvenient Truth predicting increased in Cat 5 hurricanes each year, massive tornado's, very little snow events, and warming to the point the Earth would burn up in 10 years. Guess what, less hurricanes each year, little tornado activities, lots of snow through polar vortexes, and the Earth is still here.
So with Global Warming year after year, because of the increase of CO2 each year, (liberal's words not mine) if last 2 years the temperature around Manassas has been in the high 30s and low 40s, WITH THE INCREASE OF TEMPERATURE YEAR AFTER YEAR....Where did the 20 degree temperature come from. What you morons don't understand is that your science says "each year with CO2 on the increase, the temperature will increase", yet is is 15 degrees lower...And don't give me shit that it is only weather... Yeah and when the summer is HOT , it is only weather.

You didn't put anything as a choice I would want to vote for. Just like standing in front of a redneck bar asking about gay rights, you rigged the outcome of your opinion pole. You didn't want a real result.

Start with a cold room. Enter room. Burn oil. Cook food, Have friends over. Breathe. Exhale. Move about. Is the room still cold? No. It has warmed up. The room is a closed system illustration. Earth is a closed system. Produce mass quantities of heat and the planet heats up. Fairly simple stuff. Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now. Al Gore's timetable may be off but his message is true.

Unfortunately conservatives tend to be somewhat narrow minded in perspective. The toe the line and their philosophical leanings tend toward subjective views. Too bad.

Yes global warming is real. The weather is decidedly different than when I was a child. I am 65 now.

How many trillions should we spend on windmills to make it like it was when you were a kid?
How will we know when we can stop?

Good question. I don't know how many windmills. I can't tell you how long. Probably longer than it took to get here.

You don't know either. i don't know what your idea of development and use of resources is but whatever we do it needs to be sustainable where ever possible.

I don't know how many windmills. I can't tell you how long.

You want us to spend trillions on unreliable "sustainable" energy and you don't know the answers?

Why don't we forget the windmills and build some reliable nuclear reactors instead?

Two good reasons. Nuclear power is very expensive. And, were someone to pop a nuclear bomb off at a nuclear power station, it would poison half the nation.

Nuclear power is very expensive.

Very useful.
How many windmills do you need to produce as much power as one dent reactor?

And, were someone to pop a nuclear bomb off at a nuclear power station,

If you had a nuke, would you waste it on a reactor in southern Illinois, or just hit Chicago?

 

[ding]

As soon as we can isolate the human contribution from the natural fluctuation, please let me know.

Personally, I'm FOR global warming, but you're an ass with his head stuck in the sand.

I never claimed not to be an ass, Taz.

The only question is do you think you are any different.

As for my head being stuck in the sand, I've studied the geologic record extensively and I have yet to see any signs that atmospheric CO2 drives climate change. What about you?

The GHGs that we're pumping into the atmosphere these days is helping to change the climate.

You said that already. Did you know that atmospheric CO2 used to be ten times what it is today. Guess what? No one died.

12,000 years ago New York was under a quarter mile sheet of ice.

Dumb fuck, there were no humans alive at that time. Not only that, we have been homo sap only for about the last 200,000 years, just about two glacial cycles. So we were never around when the CO2 was above 300 ppm. Yes, 12,000 years ago, there was a continental ice sheet. So what?

And there have been a few times in geological history when the GHGs increased very rapidly. They were times of extinctions.

You are kind of slow. Yes. No humans back then and there was real climate changes. The same conditions exist today too.

 

[ding]

I never claimed not to be an ass, Taz.

The only question is do you think you are any different.

As for my head being stuck in the sand, I've studied the geologic record extensively and I have yet to see any signs that atmospheric CO2 drives climate change. What about you?

The GHGs that we're pumping into the atmosphere these days is helping to change the climate.

You said that already. Did you know that atmospheric CO2 used to be ten times what it is today. Guess what? No one died.

12,000 years ago New York was under a quarter mile sheet of ice.

So these 2 meaningless stats are supposed to prove that humans aren't affecting climate change? Or are you purposely moving the goalposts to now discuss the level at which it might get harmful to humans?

So far the only large scale event that can be directly attributed to increased CO2, at least in part, is the greening of the planet.

Evil, right?

Ian's a dumb fuck, right? The melt of the north polar sea ice is having a major affect on our weather right now. From the increase in extreme precipitation events, to the fires that are currently costing us billions in property damage.

Over dramatize much?

A1000 ft thick sheet of ice over New York would be worse.

 

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You said that already. Did you know that atmospheric CO2 used to be ten times what it is today. Guess what? No one died.

12,000 years ago New York was under a quarter mile sheet of ice.

You keep missing the point... the CO2 level isn't just high, it's skyrocketing faster than the planet can cope with.

Those past increases did not happen over decades, they happened over millennia. In short, there was time for life to evolve to cope with changed climate.

You seem to keep missing the point that associated temperature due to GHG does not care about how fast CO2 rises.

Is it your belief that CO2 emissions will continue to rise exponentially? Because even the IPCC base projection does not show that.

Just how high do you think atmospheric CO2 will rise to by the year 2100?

At roughly 1C warming per doubling, CO2 is not going to produce any sort of tipping point. Hopefully for our descendants it will delay the next glacial period for a bit longer.

LOL Well now, other being totally full of bullshit, Ian, what else have you to say. We have reached 1 C already, and are nowhere near doubled. But at the rate we are seeing the increase in CO2 and CH4 from clathrates and permafrost I think that we will see the doubled mark in my lifetime. Of course, the system does have quite a bit of inertia in it, therefore I may not see the full result of that doubling.

It's called an interglacial cycle.

 

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Well, it won't be the cold or lack of food killing us. What exactly do you think WILL kill us?

The fact that a lot of farmland will turn into desert. Massive die-offs of species like bees we rely on for pollenizing. Melting glaciers will no longer feed rivers, causing areas to dry up. Stuff like that.

ummm... the world will become much wetter Joe. The warming will be predominantly at the poles.

No, parts of it will become much wetter, other parts will become much drier. And much wetter really helped the crops around Houston, right? And we know what much drier has done in California and South Dakota.

It will be a paradise.

 

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Personally, I'm FOR global warming, but you're an ass with his head stuck in the sand.

I never claimed not to be an ass, Taz.

The only question is do you think you are any different.

As for my head being stuck in the sand, I've studied the geologic record extensively and I have yet to see any signs that atmospheric CO2 drives climate change. What about you?

The GHGs that we're pumping into the atmosphere these days is helping to change the climate.

You said that already. Did you know that atmospheric CO2 used to be ten times what it is today. Guess what? No one died.

12,000 years ago New York was under a quarter mile sheet of ice.

Dumb fuck, there were no humans alive at that time. Not only that, we have been homo sap only for about the last 200,000 years, just about two glacial cycles. So we were never around when the CO2 was above 300 ppm. Yes, 12,000 years ago, there was a continental ice sheet. So what?

And there have been a few times in geological history when the GHGs increased very rapidly. They were times of extinctions.

Wait so Dino's lived when C02 was five times higher and your telling us humans can't?


Your taking propaganda to new exreme's old rock tell us more...

He's never done a material balance so he thinks there's a problem.

 

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I never claimed not to be an ass, Taz.

The only question is do you think you are any different.

As for my head being stuck in the sand, I've studied the geologic record extensively and I have yet to see any signs that atmospheric CO2 drives climate change. What about you?

The GHGs that we're pumping into the atmosphere these days is helping to change the climate.

You said that already. Did you know that atmospheric CO2 used to be ten times what it is today. Guess what? No one died.

12,000 years ago New York was under a quarter mile sheet of ice.

Dumb fuck, there were no humans alive at that time. Not only that, we have been homo sap only for about the last 200,000 years, just about two glacial cycles. So we were never around when the CO2 was above 300 ppm. Yes, 12,000 years ago, there was a continental ice sheet. So what?

And there have been a few times in geological history when the GHGs increased very rapidly. They were times of extinctions.

Wait so Dino's lived when C02 was five times higher and your telling us humans can't?


Your taking propaganda to new exreme's old rock tell us more...

You failed to address that I pointed out it was very rapid changes in GHGs that caused the extinctions. In fact, rapid changes in either direction has caused extinctions.

BBC Nature - Big Five mass extinction events

You guys keep doubling down on stupid.

Is there anything that CO2 is not responsible for?

 

[Taz]

Personally, I'm FOR global warming, but you're an ass with his head stuck in the sand.

I never claimed not to be an ass, Taz.

The only question is do you think you are any different.

As for my head being stuck in the sand, I've studied the geologic record extensively and I have yet to see any signs that atmospheric CO2 drives climate change. What about you?

The GHGs that we're pumping into the atmosphere these days is helping to change the climate.

You said that already. Did you know that atmospheric CO2 used to be ten times what it is today. Guess what? No one died.

12,000 years ago New York was under a quarter mile sheet of ice.

Dumb fuck, there were no humans alive at that time. Not only that, we have been homo sap only for about the last 200,000 years, just about two glacial cycles. So we were never around when the CO2 was above 300 ppm. Yes, 12,000 years ago, there was a continental ice sheet. So what?

And there have been a few times in geological history when the GHGs increased very rapidly. They were times of extinctions.

You are kind of slow. Yes. No humans back then and there was real climate changes. The same conditions exist today too.

The same conditions today, meaning no humans? Ummm... no.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Once again, Billy-bob Cleetus the redneck shows he doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

Here we go again. The flip flop argument, just waiting for a warm January day and the left will be proclaiming it is proof of Gorebal Warming again.