Good Guys With Guns

[2aguy]

So you find 7 cases...

Compared to the 20,000 gun homicides, 70,000 gun injuries, 43,000 gun suicides and 400,000 gun crimes every year.

The CDC says Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year for self defense…..the Department of Justice puts the number at 1.5 million times again.

Lives saved….about 175,000…..

 

[2aguy]

Which wouldn't have happened if there wasn't a war.

Nope……these countries were under occupation, without combat operations….the civillians were rounded up and murdered

 

[JoeB131]

What an audacious idea: impose consequences for criminal acts.

We lock up 2 million people. Crime is going up just as fast in the rural areas as the urban ones.

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

The loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are two of the biggest reasons.

www.governing.com

He died from the 3 blocked arteries.........and the massive amount of drugs in his system.........and the decision to violently resist arrest.......

The coroner and jury decided otherwise... which is why Chauvin will be sleeping with one eye open for the next 22 years... heh, heh, heh...

The fact that we have more people in prison for property crimes than violent crimes is a direct result of Clintons bill that you support even though you constantly whine that we have too many people in prisons and then you say we can't enforce gun laws because we already have too many people in prison all the while defending Clintons bill which is a major factor in what you whine about

Again, it's fun to watch you guys pretend that you are upset about Clinton's crime bill now when at the time, you whined it was too soft on criminals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/08/14/gops-beef-with-beleaguered-crime-bill-shifts-to-pork/69f000cf-a246-4766-9306-baf6be7e6a7c/

Turning loose proven savages on American citizens is state-sponsored terrorism. The Liberals use their pet ferals to distract, harass, rob, and kill us. They also believe that if Whites ever try to overthrow them, the ghettoblasters will act as a standing army to protect the multicultie dictatorship.

Yes, I applaud you for being open in your racism... unlike the other racists who try to pretend it isn't their fear of dark people that motivates them.
Also, you are an idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

The CDC says Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year for self defense…

No, they don't. They say that's the average of all studies. The CDC is SPECIFICALLY prohibited from studying guns after Kellerman found a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

Dickey Amendment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JoeB131]

Nope……these countries were under occupation, without combat operations….the civillians were rounded up and murdered

Oh, under occupation? You mean everyone just gave up fighting?

Um, no, they didn't. There was partisan fighting going on all over Europe.

What is instructional is how each country handled the problem. Most of the Jews who got turned into lampshades and bars of soap were from Poland, where the fighting was the most vicious, but the Poles were happy to turn in their Jewish neighbors.

 

[Blues Man]

We lock up 2 million people. Crime is going up just as fast in the rural areas as the urban ones.

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

The loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are two of the biggest reasons.

www.governing.com

The coroner and jury decided otherwise... which is why Chauvin will be sleeping with one eye open for the next 22 years... heh, heh, heh...



Again, it's fun to watch you guys pretend that you are upset about Clinton's crime bill now when at the time, you whined it was too soft on criminals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/08/14/gops-beef-with-beleaguered-crime-bill-shifts-to-pork/69f000cf-a246-4766-9306-baf6be7e6a7c/

Yes, I applaud you for being open in your racism... unlike the other racists who try to pretend it isn't their fear of dark people that motivates them.
Also, you are an idiot.

Once again you illustrate just how obtuse you are.
You have no clue about my opinion on Clintons crime bill when he signed it. You have no clue who I vote for or don't vote for.

You whine about gun crimes but then say we can't enforce gun laws because we have too many people in prison. Those two things just illustrate the cognitive dissonance that afflicts your thinking.

You whine about Reagan and the so called war on drugs because in increased incarceration then you praise Clinton for adding to the level of mass incaceration

More diametrically opposed viewpoints.

 

[JoeB131]

You have no clue about my opinion

Yes, you never own up to all the bad ideas your party foisted over the last 40 years.

You whine about gun crimes but then say we can't enforce gun laws because we have too many people in prison. Those two things just illustrate the cognitive dissonance that afflicts your thinking.

We can enforce gun laws without putting ANYONE in prison.
You get caught with a gun, we take your gun.
We then go after the gun store that sold it to you and shut it down if it didn't cross every T and Dot every I on the paperwork when they sold it to you.

Nobody has to go to jail. It will be just like taxes or any other law, the cost of non-compliance will be too much to take.

You whine about Reagan and the so called war on drugs because in increased incarceration then you praise Clinton for adding to the level of mass incaceration

Nope. Never said that Clinton did any such thing. The Crime bill didn't add to the prison population, it continued to grow on the path Reagan put it on.

 

[Blues Man]

Yes, you never own up to all the bad ideas your party foisted over the last 40 years.



We can enforce gun laws without putting ANYONE in prison.
You get caught with a gun, we take your gun.
We then go after the gun store that sold it to you and shut it down if it didn't cross every T and Dot every I on the paperwork when they sold it to you.

Nobody has to go to jail. It will be just like taxes or any other law, the cost of non-compliance will be too much to take.



Nope. Never said that Clinton did any such thing. The Crime bill didn't add to the prison population, it continued to grow on the path Reagan put it on.

I am not now and have never been a member of any political party.

And no you cannot enforce gun laws without putting people in prison. When you catch a piece of shit criminal with a gun what do you propose we do with that piece of shit?

And FYI the vast majority of criminals don't buy guns from gun stores. There you go being obtuse again.

Thank for for proving that you are a fucking idiot

 

[JoeB131]

And no you cannot enforce gun laws without putting people in prison. When you catch a piece of shit criminal with a gun what do you propose we do with that piece of shit?

If his only crime was "just having a gun", you take the gun away from him.
If he committed other crimes, you put him in jail for those crimes.

And FYI the vast majority of criminals don't buy guns from gun stores. There you go being obtuse again.

Then why is it every time there's a mass shooter, after we find out that everyone in his life knew he was crazy, we find out he had no problem getting a gun?

Loughner, Cruz, James Joker Holmes, Robert "Awake the Rapper" Crimo, every last one of them just walked into a gun store, slapped down a stack of bills, and walked out with a military grade weapon.

Do you really think that the gun stores are showing MORE caution with weaker guns for lesser criminals?

 

[Hollie]

We lock up 2 million people. Crime is going up just as fast in the rural areas as the urban ones.

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

The loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are two of the biggest reasons.

www.governing.com

The coroner and jury decided otherwise... which is why Chauvin will be sleeping with one eye open for the next 22 years... heh, heh, heh...



Again, it's fun to watch you guys pretend that you are upset about Clinton's crime bill now when at the time, you whined it was too soft on criminals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/08/14/gops-beef-with-beleaguered-crime-bill-shifts-to-pork/69f000cf-a246-4766-9306-baf6be7e6a7c/

Yes, I applaud you for being open in your racism... unlike the other racists who try to pretend it isn't their fear of dark people that motivates them.
Also, you are an idiot.

Really. Loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are causes of crime?

Leftists won’t admit their failures but job loss, loss of inventive to work has been a real problem with the Biden regime pouring money into welfare.

The opioid eoedemic is the direct result of Braindead Bidens open border and fund the cartels program.

You can now respond with your typical, I Blame Trump™ slogan.

 

[JoeB131]

Really. Loss of jobs and the opioid epidemic are causes of crime?

Leftists won’t admit their failures but job loss, loss of inventive to work has been a real problem with the Biden regime pouring money into welfare.

The opioid eoedemic is the direct result of Braindead Bidens open border and fund the cartels program.

We had an opioid crisis long before Biden got there... and the primary contributors have been big pharma.

The problem in the rural areas, of course, is that farming has become consolidated and small factories have closed down... that's why there is so much poverty, misery and crime in the rural areas.

But they keep voting Republican and things never get better.

 

[2aguy]

If his only crime was "just having a gun", you take the gun away from him.
If he committed other crimes, you put him in jail for those crimes.



Then why is it every time there's a mass shooter, after we find out that everyone in his life knew he was crazy, we find out he had no problem getting a gun?

Loughner, Cruz, James Joker Holmes, Robert "Awake the Rapper" Crimo, every last one of them just walked into a gun store, slapped down a stack of bills, and walked out with a military grade weapon.

Do you really think that the gun stores are showing MORE caution with weaker guns for lesser criminals?

Then why is it every time there's a mass shooter, after we find out that everyone in his life knew he was crazy, we find out he had no problem getting a gun?


Over 350 million Americans...how many of these dangerous, crazy people have we had?

2021....

6

2020

2

Their families never realized what they were capable of as they lived through the nightmare of living with this tiny number of nuts.....now, people are becoming more aware of who and what these guys might be.......you doofus.

 

[JoeB131]

Then why is it every time there's a mass shooter, after we find out that everyone in his life knew he was crazy, we find out he had no problem getting a gun?


Over 350 million Americans...how many of these dangerous, crazy people have we had?

Well, we have 43,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries and 400,000 gun crimes every year. That's how many dangerous people we have.

 

[Batcat]

You mean the gun industry unethically told people "Biden is going to take your guns".

Right after "Obama's gonna take your guns."

Right after "Clinton is going to take your guns".

And like most RW lies, you keep falling for it.

Perhaps if we didn’t warn people the people we warned about would have tried to take our guns.

For example Joe Biden wants to ban 9mm pistols.

Biden calls 9mm ‘high-caliber weapons,’ suggests banning them

President Biden spoke to reporters about his thoughts on 9mm handguns, calling them "high-caliber" and claiming that the Constitution is not "absolute."

www.foxnews.com

 

[Hollie]

We had an opioid crisis long before Biden got there... and the primary contributors have been big pharma.

The problem in the rural areas, of course, is that farming has become consolidated and small factories have closed down... that's why there is so much poverty, misery and crime in the rural areas.

But they keep voting Republican and things never get better.

Umm, we have an opioid crisis now because democrats have partnered with Mexican cartels.

Fentanyl Seizures at Border Continue to Spike, Making San Diego a National Epicenter for Fentanyl Trafficking; U.S. Attorney’s Office Prioritizes Prosecutions and Prevention Programs

www.justice.gov

Fentanyl Seizures at Border Continue to Spike, Making San Diego a National Epicenter for Fentanyl Trafficking; U.S. Attorney’s Office Prioritizes Prosecutions and Prevention Programs​

Are democrats even talking about the number of fentanyl related deaths in the US? No, they're not. With thanks to democrat open border policies, Mexican drug cartels now control fentanyl being smuggled into the US. The cartels have capitalized on the Democrat-sponsored human smuggling / child sex trafficking syndicates to smuggle staggering amounts of drugs and humans into the country.

​

 

[JoeB131]

Umm, we have an opioid crisis now because democrats have partnered with Mexican cartels.

Really? Because it looks like the problem started long before Biden got there.

 

[Hollie]

Really? Because it looks like the problem started long before Biden got there.

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Really? Your graphs show the enormous spike in drug overdose deaths since the Biden - Democrat Cartel Enrichment Program was put into effect.

Fighting Fentanyl: The Biden Administration’s Failure of Leadership

As last year’s overdoses exceeded 100,000 deaths, the current administration has failed to adapt life-saving practices in their latest national drug control strategy.

www.manhattan-institute.org

The number of Americans dying from accidental drug overdoses has grown sharply in recent years, exceeding 100,000 annually and reaching 77,000 for deaths associated with opioids for the year ending November 2021, according to the most recent provisional data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.[1] This opioid death toll is 55% greater than for the year ending in November 2019, when a period of rapid growth in overdose deaths began. Unfortunately, the Biden administration in its newly issued National Drug Control Strategy (NDCS),[2] does little to show the necessary leadership in the fight against one of our nation’s biggest public health challenges.

 

[JoeB131]

Really? Your graphs show the enormous spike in drug overdose deaths since the Biden - Democrat Cartel Enrichment Program was put into effect.

uh, wow, so you don't know how to read graphs, do you?
Here, let me help you out... Biden didn't become president until 2021.

Your chart only goes up to 2020. And you can see the number doubled between 2016 and 2020.

Charts are one of those things you struggle with, aren't they?

 

[Hollie]

uh, wow, so you don't know how to read graphs, do you?
Here, let me help you out... Biden didn't become president until 2021.

Your chart only goes up to 2020. And you can see the number doubled between 2016 and 2020.

Charts are one of those things you struggle with, aren't they?

Uh, wow, so you didn't want to address the numbers because democrat policies were in place in 2020.

A reality based worldview is one of those things you struggle with.

Flow of Fentanyl into American Communities Quadruples Under Biden

Four times as much deadly fentanyl is flowing across the United States-Mexico border under President Joe Biden.

www.breitbart.com

Better now?

 

[JoeB131]

Uh, wow, so you didn't want to address the numbers because democrat policies were in place in 2020.

A reality based worldview is one of those things you struggle with.

I mean, I know you guys would like to pretend Trump wasn't President in 2020, failing miserably at controlling Covid, Fentanyl, unemployment, riots, wildfires and just about everything else that was kind of his job.

Besides the fact you think Breitbart is a credible source, the reality is, if we have fentanyl, it's because there's a demand for it.

The sensible thing to do would be to invest in drug rehab programs, because "locking them all up" has failed pretty miserably.