Good Guys With Guns

[Hollie]

What is another word for cat?

Survivor?

 

[2aguy]

Actually, most of the Demonstrations were over by August.
Most of the demonstrations were peaceful.
Only about 50 people died as a result of BLM demonstrations, most of them demonstrators killed by police.
400,000 people died of Covid. 65 million lost their jobs. That's why Trump got voted out of office.

The blm and antifa, democrat party brownshirts murdered 50 people.....burned and looted for 7 months in order to damage Trump before the election.........and you dismiss that political violence?

Trump didn't wreck the country, the democrat party politicians who used the Chinese flu as cover to wreck their state's economies to wreck the national economy to hurt Trump did that.

 

[JoeB131]

Umm, sorry pumpkin. BLM riots were about anarchy and looting.

The motivations of BLM'ers wasn't some ''I'm oppressed by the man', nonsense as you silly hippies try to represent. Let go of the 1960's.... dude.

Your BLM heroes were wannabe socialists and among the more physically repulsive people on the planet.

Nope, they were about a population that had been pushed too far.

Now, you might want to live like a Zionist, with your boot to the neck of a minority who wants to kill you... but I think there's a better way to live.

You address valid grievances and correct them.

 

[JoeB131]

The blm and antifa, democrat party brownshirts murdered 50 people.....burned and looted for 7 months in order to damage Trump before the election.........and you dismiss that political violence?

Actually, they did nothing of the sort. Some of those 50 deaths were cops killing demonstrators, or counter demonstrators killing demonstrators.

I don't dismiss it. I was here begging FOR YEARS that we need to reform the cops to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening. 25 years after the Rodney King riots, and we didn't learn a fucking thing.

Trump didn't wreck the country, the democrat party politicians who used the Chinese flu as cover to wreck their state's economies to wreck the national economy to hurt Trump did that.

If Trump had handled Covid with even a modicum of competence, then Covid wouldn't have done that much damage to the economy.

But you keep drinking the bleach.

 

[Hollie]

Nope, they were about a population that had been pushed too far.

Now, you might want to live like a Zionist, with your boot to the neck of a minority who wants to kill you... but I think there's a better way to live.

You address valid grievances and correct them.

You can defend antifa and BLM misfits as you like but no one ''pushed them too far''. I understand you want excuses for the damage to people and property they caused because you share the same frustrations of ineffectualess and ineptitude.

I think the better way to live involves removing arsonists, killers and social misfits who commit crimes from the greater society.

 

[JoeB131]

You can defend antifa and BLM misfits as you like but no one ''pushed them too far''. I understand you want excuses for the damage to people and property they caused because you share the same frustrations of ineffectualess and ineptitude.

I think the better way to live involves removing arsonists, killers and social misfits who commit crimes from the greater society.

I am sure you do...

But that's the problem. You ONLY cared about this issue AFTER they started burning your shit.

Black people asked nicely for TEN YEARS to clean up our corrupt police departments. And instead they saw cops either being acquitted or getting slap on the wrist punishments.

Then they threatened to burn white people's shit... and amazingly, white people suddenly cared about police reform. Murdering cops actually started getting meaningful sentences.

 

[Hollie]

I am sure you do...

But that's the problem. You ONLY cared about this issue AFTER they started burning your shit.

Black people asked nicely for TEN YEARS to clean up our corrupt police departments. And instead they saw cops either being acquitted or getting slap on the wrist punishments.

Then they threatened to burn white people's shit... and amazingly, white people suddenly cared about police reform. Murdering cops actually started getting meaningful sentences.

What's curious is that the self-hating white leftist doesn't understand that black people were most negatively affected by the BLM / antifa riots.

That was a real benefit for the self-hating white leftists who literally despise black people.

 

[JoeB131]

What's curious is that the self-hating white leftist doesn't understand that black people were most negatively affected by the BLM / antifa riots.

That was a real benefit for the self-hating white leftists who literally despise black people.

Again, we white leftists were the ones BEGGING for real police reform, which Trump immediately undermined the minute he got into office.

The right wing way- do the most illogical thing, then complain about the messed up result.

 

[Blues Man]

Again, we white leftists were the ones BEGGING for real police reform, which Trump immediately undermined the minute he got into office.

The right wing way- do the most illogical thing, then complain about the messed up result.

Bill Clinton's crime bill was terrible for the Black Community

S0 much for White leftists wanting to save Blacks from the police huh?

 

[2aguy]

I am sure you do...

But that's the problem. You ONLY cared about this issue AFTER they started burning your shit.

Black people asked nicely for TEN YEARS to clean up our corrupt police departments. And instead they saw cops either being acquitted or getting slap on the wrist punishments.

Then they threatened to burn white people's shit... and amazingly, white people suddenly cared about police reform. Murdering cops actually started getting meaningful sentences.

No......you are wrong.......when people in democrat party controlled cities keep voting for the democrat party, the party that destroyed the education systems in those cities, destroyed the family structures in those cities, attacked the police to the point the cops are retiring and quitting in massive numbers and then go on to release violent criminals over and over again, raise taxes to the point that businesses leave and never come back, destroying the job base, and then they keep voting for the democrat party.....

They brought much of the destruction on themselves.

 

[JoeB131]

Bill Clinton's crime bill was terrible for the Black Community

S0 much for White leftists wanting to save Blacks from the police huh?

Was it? The crime rate under Bill Clinton declined from a high of 758/100K to 500/100K, a 35% decline. I mean, I think it's amusing to watch you wingnuts complain about Clinton's crime bill hurting black people when at the time, you mocked Midnight Basketball and denounced it for not hurting them enough.

 

[JoeB131]

No......you are wrong.......when people in democrat party controlled cities keep voting for the democrat party, the party that destroyed the education systems in those cities, destroyed the family structures in those cities, attacked the police to the point the cops are retiring and quitting in massive numbers and then go on to release violent criminals over and over again, raise taxes to the point that businesses leave and never come back, destroying the job base, and then they keep voting for the democrat party.....

yet, oddly, crime only spikes when Republicans are in charge...

 

[Blues Man]

Was it? The crime rate under Bill Clinton declined from a high of 758/100K to 500/100K, a 35% decline. I mean, I think it's amusing to watch you wingnuts complain about Clinton's crime bill hurting black people when at the time, you mocked Midnight Basketball and denounced it for not hurting them enough.

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Yeah he militarized the police and arrested more black people

And all you have is a correlation and we all know that correlation does not equal causation there as crime levels were decreasing as the crack epidemic was waning

 

[2aguy]

yet, oddly, crime only spikes when Republicans are in charge...

When the democrat party prosecutors, judges and politicians release violent criminals in record numbers, then attack the police to the point they stop doing their jobs and quit and retire in massive numbers........and the democrat party cities drive the spike in violent crime....

It isn't the republicans causing the crime, and you can lie all you want, even uninformed Americans are now onto your game....

 

[Blues Man]

Yeah he militarized the police and arrested more black people

Was it? The crime rate under Bill Clinton declined from a high of 758/100K to 500/100K, a 35% decline. I mean, I think it's amusing to watch you wingnuts complain about Clinton's crime bill hurting black people when at the time, you mocked Midnight Basketball and denounced it for not hurting them enough.

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For one the crime bill was signed in 94 and took time to be ramped up and why are you defending it when it's pretty clear that that bill gave new meaning to mass incarceration

How the 1994 Crime Bill Fed the Mass Incarceration Crisis | News & Commentary | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah he militarized the police and arrested more black people

And all you have is a correlation and we all know that correlation does not equal causation there as crime levels were decreasing as the crack epidemic was waning

Actually, the guy who really militarized the police was Bush, when he allowed Police Departments to buy all that surplus military equipment.

 

[Blues Man]

Actually, the guy who really militarized the police was Bush, when he allowed Police Departments to buy all that surplus military equipment.

It began with Clintons increase in 94

Clinton was mainly resposible for the expansion of the for profit prison system that you are always whining about

 

[JoeB131]

When the democrat party prosecutors, judges and politicians release violent criminals in record numbers, then attack the police to the point they stop doing their jobs and quit and retire in massive numbers........and the democrat party cities drive the spike in violent crime....

It isn't the republicans causing the crime, and you can lie all you want, even uninformed Americans are now onto your game....

Then why did crime go down under Clinton and Obama, and go up under Trump and the Bushes?

I'm sorry, were the police "doing their jobs" when they choked George Floyd for 9 minutes, or shot Laquan McDonald 16 times when he was lying on the ground? That doesn't seem to be in their job description to me.

 

[JoeB131]

It began with Clintons increase in 94

Clinton was mainly resposible for the expansion of the for profit prison system that you are always whining about

Actually, that started under Reagan.

 

[2aguy]

Then why did crime go down under Clinton and Obama, and go up under Trump and the Bushes?

I'm sorry, were the police "doing their jobs" when they choked George Floyd for 9 minutes, or shot Laquan McDonald 16 times when he was lying on the ground? That doesn't seem to be in their job description to me.

Because the war on police and the release of violent criminals became an actual goal for the democrats starting in 2015.............

Floyd died from a drug overdose.....you can lie all you want, but that is the fact.