Good Guys With Guns

[Blues Man]

Then why did crime go down under Clinton and Obama, and go up under Trump and the Bushes?

I'm sorry, were the police "doing their jobs" when they choked George Floyd for 9 minutes, or shot Laquan McDonald 16 times when he was lying on the ground? That doesn't seem to be in their job description to me.

it was trending down before Clinton took office.

Once again correlation does not equal causation

 

[Blues Man]

Actually, that started under Reagan.

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Yeah see that steep increase After Clinton's crime bill?

It was Billy's crime bill that also led to minors being charged as adults and expanded the death penalty use in other crimes

It made the problem of mass incarceration that you are always whining about even worse and here you are defending it.

You are such a fucking hypocrite

 

[JoeB131]

Because the war on police and the release of violent criminals became an actual goal for the democrats starting in 2015.............

Floyd died from a drug overdose.....you can lie all you want, but that is the fact.

Not what the jury found. I don't think a drug overdose looks like a knee to the neck.

So this "war on police".... um, police funding has INCREASED

So the police have all the equipment and guns they want, but we don't have enough books for our schools.

Now, yeah, less people WANT to be police, because the Police themselves have made it a despised profession. That's kind of on them.

 

[JoeB131]

it was trending down before Clinton took office.

Once again correlation does not equal causation

No, it peaked under Bush... it started going down under Clinton.

Yeah see that steep increase After Clinton's crime bill?

Nope. I saw the steep increase after Reagan's War on Drugs.

 

[2aguy]

Not what the jury found. I don't think a drug overdose looks like a knee to the neck.

So this "war on police".... um, police funding has INCREASED

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So the police have all the equipment and guns they want, but we don't have enough books for our schools.

Now, yeah, less people WANT to be police, because the Police themselves have made it a despised profession. That's kind of on them.

The jury didn't care about the evidence since they didn't find the cop not guilty.....floyd died from blocked arteries excacerbated by the cocktail of drugs in his system.

 

[JoeB131]

The jury didn't care about the evidence since they didn't find the cop not guilty.....floyd died from blocked arteries excacerbated by the cocktail of drugs in his system.

The jury saw the evidence of him being choked for nine minute while he begged for his life.

By your logic, any "angel of death" who kills people in hospitals is not guilty because those folks were already sick, right?

 

[2aguy]

The jury saw the evidence of him being choked for nine minute while he begged for his life.

By your logic, any "angel of death" who kills people in hospitals is not guilty because those folks were already sick, right?

No.....the jury didn't pay attention to the evidence of his 3 blocked arteries and the over dose of drugs in his system.....and the fact he was talking the whole time he was being held, which means he was breathing, you doofus.

 

[Hollie]

Again, we white leftists were the ones BEGGING for real police reform, which Trump immediately undermined the minute he got into office.

The right wing way- do the most illogical thing, then complain about the messed up result.

Again, self-hating white leftists were never BEGGING <--- note the use of capital letters for that added touuch of melodrama, for any reform. Self-hating white leftists were simply looking for a sacrificial lamb black population to bear the human cost of their socialist / Communist agenda. Burning inner cities and destroying small businesses was a part of that plan.

 

[Blues Man]

No, it peaked under Bush... it started going down under Clinton.



Nope. I saw the steep increase after Reagan's War on Drugs.

Blinded by partisanship just like every other hypocrite partisan hack here

 

[Hollie]

Law enforcement is calling out the leftist criminal enabling program euphemistically called the safe-t act. The entire effect of this disaster is to coddle criminals while putting law abiding citizens on the defensive. Sheriffs are already advising the public that they face consequences from leftist DA's and prosecutors if they defend themselves from the criminals those leftists are enabling.

SAFE-T Act: Illinois sheriff warns prosecutors not to be ‘overzealous’ targeting victims stopping criminals

Jefferson County Sheriff Jeff Bullard says the SAFE-T Act is not supported by the 'vast majority' of citizens, police officers, attorneys and judges in Illinois.

www.foxnews.com

Illinois Police and state's attorneys shouldn't be "overzealous" when prosecuting victims who use force to defend themselves after the state's criminal justice reform law goes into effect, a sheriff told Fox News.

 

[JoeB131]

No.....the jury didn't pay attention to the evidence of his 3 blocked arteries and the over dose of drugs in his system.....and the fact he was talking the whole time he was being held, which means he was breathing, you doofus.

He had three blocked arteries for quite some time, but he didn't die until Chauvin's knee was on his neck.. for nine minutes.

Again, self-hating white leftists were never BEGGING <--- note the use of capital letters for that added touuch of melodrama, for any reform. Self-hating white leftists were simply looking for a sacrificial lamb black population to bear the human cost of their socialist / Communist agenda. Burning inner cities and destroying small businesses was a part of that plan.

Hardly. Those people rioted because you DIDN'T listen to the reforms we suggested. In fact, Trump undid most of them. And the bad cops figured they could go back to business as usual.

Blinded by partisanship just like every other hypocrite partisan hack here

Uh, you said yourself the reason for mass incarceration was the "War on Drugs". Well, who started the War on Drugs? It was Reagan, and to a lesser degree Nixon. But definitely Reagan who imposed the tougher penalties for drugs, including stiffer penalties for drugs used by minorities.

Law enforcement is calling out the leftist criminal enabling program euphemistically called the safe-t act. The entire effect of this disaster is to coddle criminals while putting law abiding citizens on the defensive. Sheriffs are already advising the public that they face consequences from leftist DA's and prosecutors if they defend themselves from the criminals those leftists are enabling.

Actually, the only people upset are the small town hick sheriffs in IL who like to use Bail to shake down people for minor offenses.

If he's dangerous, ask for remand.
If he's not, let him wait for his court date at home, even if he's a poor person.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You mean the gun industry unethically told people "Biden is going to take your guns".

Right after "Obama's gonna take your guns."

Right after "Clinton is going to take your guns".

And like most RW lies, you keep falling for it.

When Sheep Turn Into Rams

The more guns we have, the less chance the disarmers will dare take them.

 

[JoeB131]

When Sheep Turn Into Rams

The more guns we have, the less chance the disarmers will dare take them.

The more guns we have... the more we endanger each other.

You see, true story. The Nazis didn't confiscate all the guns in Germany. in fact, they rolled back the Weimar Republic's guns laws and ignored the Treaty of Versailles limits on gun ownership.

But when the SS came for the Jews, not a single German rushed out and said, "Wait, Goldstein is my friend you can't take him!"

It was more like, "Can I have his stuff?"

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The more guns we have... the more we endanger each other.

You see, true story. The Nazis didn't confiscate all the guns in Germany. in fact, they rolled back the Weimar Republic's guns laws and ignored the Treaty of Versailles limits on gun ownership.

But when the SS came for the Jews, not a single German rushed out and said, "Wait, Goldstein is my friend you can't take him!"

It was more like, "Can I have his stuff?"

True.

And the notion that had Germany’s Jews possessed guns they’d not fall prey to the Holocaust is as much a lie and myth as ‘good guy with a gun.’

 

[Hollie]

He had three blocked arteries for quite some time, but he didn't die until Chauvin's knee was on his neck.. for nine minutes.



Hardly. Those people rioted because you DIDN'T listen to the reforms we suggested. In fact, Trump undid most of them. And the bad cops figured they could go back to business as usual.



Uh, you said yourself the reason for mass incarceration was the "War on Drugs". Well, who started the War on Drugs? It was Reagan, and to a lesser degree Nixon. But definitely Reagan who imposed the tougher penalties for drugs, including stiffer penalties for drugs used by minorities.



Actually, the only people upset are the small town hick sheriffs in IL who like to use Bail to shake down people for minor offenses.

If he's dangerous, ask for remand.
If he's not, let him wait for his court date at home, even if he's a poor person.

You give way too much credit to the social misfits you define as your heroes. These are people who riot because they think it’s fun and because they knew there was little downside. When the pretend VP makes a point to announce support for bail and / or release for rioters who burn, loot and violently attack, they’re incentivized.


Umm, no. This is another of the really sad commentaries that define the damaged leftist mind. There were no laws that Reagan imposed which placed tougher penalties for drugs, including stiffer penalties for drugs used by minorities.

You do have a habit of making up nonsense claims but because you don’t know, Congress makes laws, not the president,

 

[JoeB131]

You give way too much credit to the social misfits you define as your heroes. These are people who riot because they think it’s fun and because they knew there was little downside. When the pretend VP makes a point to announce support for bail and / or release for rioters who burn, loot and violently attack, they’re incentivized.

Bail is everyone's right. And bail for people protesting injustice would seem to be an imperitive in a just society.

There SHOULD have been massive police reform after the Rodney King riots. Instead, the behavior of the cops got worse, not better.

It's not about George Floyd being a model citizen... it was that the thing he was accused of doing (passing a fake $20) did not merit the use of lethal force against him. And the same could be said of most of the other victims of police misconduct. Tamir Rice was playing with a toy on a playground. Laquan McDonald was trying to break into a truck to keep warm. Mike Brown grabbed some cheap cigars and pushed a store clerk.

It's that excessive force was used that would not have been used against a white person in the same circumstances.

Umm, no. This is another of the really sad commentaries that define the damaged leftist mind. There were no laws that Reagan imposed which placed tougher penalties for drugs, including stiffer penalties for drugs used by minorities.

Reagan Signs Broad 'Sword and Shield' Anti-Drug Law : Casual Users Face Stiff Fines; Kingpins Could Get the Death Penalty

President Reagan on Friday signed landmark anti-drug legislation, calling it a "new sword and shield" in the nation's battle against the illegal drug epidemic.

www.latimes.com

Ronald Reagan's tough legal legacy.

In these days of uncertainty—days of terrorist threats, foreign-policy challenges, and controversial military action—the death of Ronald Reagan was...

slate.com

Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 — The Congress Project

www.thecongressproject.com

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, do some fucking research. Reagan's draconian War on Drugs was more than just sending his wrinkled old lady out to blurt "Just Say No." It involved massive punishments that doubled the prison population.

 

[Hollie]

Bail is everyone's right. And bail for people protesting injustice would seem to be an imperitive in a just society.

There SHOULD have been massive police reform after the Rodney King riots. Instead, the behavior of the cops got worse, not better.

It's not about George Floyd being a model citizen... it was that the thing he was accused of doing (passing a fake $20) did not merit the use of lethal force against him. And the same could be said of most of the other victims of police misconduct. Tamir Rice was playing with a toy on a playground. Laquan McDonald was trying to break into a truck to keep warm. Mike Brown grabbed some cheap cigars and pushed a store clerk.

It's that excessive force was used that would not have been used against a white person in the same circumstances.

Reagan Signs Broad 'Sword and Shield' Anti-Drug Law : Casual Users Face Stiff Fines; Kingpins Could Get the Death Penalty

President Reagan on Friday signed landmark anti-drug legislation, calling it a "new sword and shield" in the nation's battle against the illegal drug epidemic.

www.latimes.com

Ronald Reagan's tough legal legacy.

In these days of uncertainty—days of terrorist threats, foreign-policy challenges, and controversial military action—the death of Ronald Reagan was...

slate.com

Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 — The Congress Project

www.thecongressproject.com

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, do some fucking research. Reagan's draconian War on Drugs was more than just sending his wrinkled old lady out to blurt "Just Say No." It involved massive punishments that doubled the prison population.

What an audacious idea: impose consequences for criminal acts.

Defund the police push, liberal policies driving Chicago business exodus, hurting poor the most: experts

Experts tell Fox News Digital that the defund the police movement has created a business exodus in Chicago that will hurt the most vulnerable communities the most.

www.google.com

Several experts reacted to the CEO of McDonald's suggesting his company could be the next to flee Chicago's crime wave by telling Fox News Digital that progressive policies and defund the police rhetoric have created a dangerous situation that will cause even more businesses to flee and most negatively impact the most vulnerable communities in the city.

 

[Blues Man]

He had three blocked arteries for quite some time, but he didn't die until Chauvin's knee was on his neck.. for nine minutes.



Hardly. Those people rioted because you DIDN'T listen to the reforms we suggested. In fact, Trump undid most of them. And the bad cops figured they could go back to business as usual.



Uh, you said yourself the reason for mass incarceration was the "War on Drugs". Well, who started the War on Drugs? It was Reagan, and to a lesser degree Nixon. But definitely Reagan who imposed the tougher penalties for drugs, including stiffer penalties for drugs used by minorities.



Actually, the only people upset are the small town hick sheriffs in IL who like to use Bail to shake down people for minor offenses.

If he's dangerous, ask for remand.
If he's not, let him wait for his court date at home, even if he's a poor person.

I said it was one reason

You don't have much of a memory.

The fact that we have more people in prison for property crimes than violent crimes is a direct result of Clintons bill that you support even though you constantly whine that we have too many people in prisons and then you say we can't enforce gun laws because we already have too many people in prison all the while defending Clintons bill which is a major factor in what you whine about

 

[2aguy]

He had three blocked arteries for quite some time, but he didn't die until Chauvin's knee was on his neck.. for nine minutes.



Hardly. Those people rioted because you DIDN'T listen to the reforms we suggested. In fact, Trump undid most of them. And the bad cops figured they could go back to business as usual.



Uh, you said yourself the reason for mass incarceration was the "War on Drugs". Well, who started the War on Drugs? It was Reagan, and to a lesser degree Nixon. But definitely Reagan who imposed the tougher penalties for drugs, including stiffer penalties for drugs used by minorities.



Actually, the only people upset are the small town hick sheriffs in IL who like to use Bail to shake down people for minor offenses.

If he's dangerous, ask for remand.
If he's not, let him wait for his court date at home, even if he's a poor person.

He died from the 3 blocked arteries.........and the massive amount of drugs in his system.........and the decision to violently resist arrest.......

You doofus.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The more guns we have... the more we endanger each other.

You see, true story. The Nazis didn't confiscate all the guns in Germany. in fact, they rolled back the Weimar Republic's guns laws and ignored the Treaty of Versailles limits on gun ownership.

But when the SS came for the Jews, not a single German rushed out and said, "Wait, Goldstein is my friend you can't take him!"

It was more like, "Can I have his stuff?"

DemNazis

Turning loose proven savages on American citizens is state-sponsored terrorism. The Liberals use their pet ferals to distract, harass, rob, and kill us. They also believe that if Whites ever try to overthrow them, the ghettoblasters will act as a standing army to protect the multicultie dictatorship.