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The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
please. nobody is pushing for that but you do have a lot of people pushing to have their religion recognized by the government.Some people are not going to be satisfied until they bring their church into everyone else's life 24/7, whether they like it or not. This is why it was illegal to open any store on Sunday when I grew up in the South, except gas stations, pharmacy, or food stores.
Fortunately, these days are over.
And the other side will not be happy until religious expressions are forced behind closed, locked doors.
they kinda do. but they are also religious in nature. and as far as influence on our laws and courts they're not very important.although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
so sure i agree that they have a historic value but that's not why they were installed in oklahoma.
although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
No...the basis for the concept of laws is Hammarabi's Code.although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
No they don't.
Nothing in the Constitution is derived from the 10 commandments.
No...the basis for the concept of laws is Hammarabi's Code.although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
Some people are not going to be satisfied until they bring their church into everyone else's life 24/7, whether they like it or not. This is why it was illegal to open any store on Sunday when I grew up in the South, except gas stations, pharmacy, or food stores.
Fortunately, these days are over.
although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
No they don't.
Nothing in the Constitution is derived from the 10 commandments.
I said laws, not the constitution.
Don't murder, Don't steal, Don't lie. I think there are laws that say the same thing.....
How is it imposing one's views on others by not allowing those others to put their religious codes on government property?The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.A sad day in America, another sure sign of our decline.
Well, since you're the OP, it would appear to me that it is YOU who is attempting to impose YOUR views on others. It appears things of a religious nature really bother you. Why? I have seen no one on this thread attempt to impose any views upon you. Can't others besides yourself have opinions and views of their own?
That's not what happened at all....the city attempted to sell the property for very little to a specific organization....NOT at public auction going to the highest bidder as per city law.please. nobody is pushing for that but you do have a lot of people pushing to have their religion recognized by the government.Some people are not going to be satisfied until they bring their church into everyone else's life 24/7, whether they like it or not. This is why it was illegal to open any store on Sunday when I grew up in the South, except gas stations, pharmacy, or food stores.
Fortunately, these days are over.
And the other side will not be happy until religious expressions are forced behind closed, locked doors.
Really? Lets look at that case of the cross on the hill in San Diego. There was a plan to sell the parcel so it would be "private property" but the atheists were against it.
Some of them want no reminder of religion in public, and thats not going to happen.
No more or less than putting a statue of Satan there, or a monument with the Five Pillars of Islam or Buddhism's Eightfold Path. Allow any and all.....or none.they kinda do. but they are also religious in nature. and as far as influence on our laws and courts they're not very important.although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
so sure i agree that they have a historic value but that's not why they were installed in oklahoma.
So how is it "establishment" of religion for it to be there?
That's not what happened at all....the city attempted to sell the property for very little to a specific organization....NOT at public auction going to the highest bidder as per city law.please. nobody is pushing for that but you do have a lot of people pushing to have their religion recognized by the government.Some people are not going to be satisfied until they bring their church into everyone else's life 24/7, whether they like it or not. This is why it was illegal to open any store on Sunday when I grew up in the South, except gas stations, pharmacy, or food stores.
Fortunately, these days are over.
And the other side will not be happy until religious expressions are forced behind closed, locked doors.
Really? Lets look at that case of the cross on the hill in San Diego. There was a plan to sell the parcel so it would be "private property" but the atheists were against it.
Some of them want no reminder of religion in public, and thats not going to happen.
Right...and those laws were around before the 10 Commandments....in all places of the world.although i agree that someone's faith should not be threatened by some words on a stone monument, i don't think putting that monument in a place of supposed neutrality sends the right message to people that don't ascribe to those words.The sad day was when the damn thing was installed. Learn what it means to live in a secular nation, where your faith doesn't get to just shit on all the rest just because you're in the majority.
If you own belief structure is threatened by a few words on stone monument, its your own issue.
Should the thing have been there? probably not, but that doesn't mean the people wanting to get rid of it, or place satanistic equivalents out of spite ar right either.
It's still not establishment of Religion. The ten commandments have historical value as a basis of the concept of laws.
No they don't.
Nothing in the Constitution is derived from the 10 commandments.
I said laws, not the constitution.
Don't murder, Don't steal, Don't lie. I think there are laws that say the same thing.....
That's not what happened at all....the city attempted to sell the property for very little to a specific organization....NOT at public auction going to the highest bidder as per city law.
