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Gop Offers These 11 Principles

Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!
You trying to get an honest reply from PC?

Expect a cut and paste barrage about the horrors of FDR
 
When was that?

Actually, when PC first came on the board, she engaged in legitimate discussions. Then she settled into her "watch me piss off liberals" role. It has grown tiresome as she is now just a one trick pony

That's what happens when a RWnut ventures outside of the echo chamber and discovers that there's a refutation for every crazy belief the RWnuts hold.

She has chosen her cut and paste persona because she has become intellectually lazy. It is easier to play Internet games than actually engage in honest discussion


Honest debate is based on ideas.

That is exactly what I provide.

As the quote and links that I provide requires far more study than you have done....exposes which of us is lazy.

Good.

Then prove that the GOP can implement a workable plan that will increase defense spending, cut taxes, balance the budget, and pay off the national debt in a generation.

You prove it. With specifics.

Can anyone help PC here? She isn't capable of defending the rubbish she posts.
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


How did we get to a $17 trillion debt again?

Oh....right...by voting for a Democrat.

Gee.....are all Democrats debt-inducing?

'But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” 'http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html
 
Actually, when PC first came on the board, she engaged in legitimate discussions. Then she settled into her "watch me piss off liberals" role. It has grown tiresome as she is now just a one trick pony

That's what happens when a RWnut ventures outside of the echo chamber and discovers that there's a refutation for every crazy belief the RWnuts hold.

She has chosen her cut and paste persona because she has become intellectually lazy. It is easier to play Internet games than actually engage in honest discussion


Honest debate is based on ideas.

That is exactly what I provide.

As the quote and links that I provide requires far more study than you have done....exposes which of us is lazy.

Good.

Then prove that the GOP can implement a workable plan that will increase defense spending, cut taxes, balance the budget, and pay off the national debt in a generation.

You prove it. With specifics.

Can anyone help PC here? She isn't capable of defending the rubbish she posts.
Is she really any different than Stephanie?
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!
You trying to get an honest reply from PC?

Expect a cut and paste barrage about the horrors of FDR



My posts are always honest.

That's because I'm not a Liberal.
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


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Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?
 
That's what happens when a RWnut ventures outside of the echo chamber and discovers that there's a refutation for every crazy belief the RWnuts hold.

She has chosen her cut and paste persona because she has become intellectually lazy. It is easier to play Internet games than actually engage in honest discussion


Honest debate is based on ideas.

That is exactly what I provide.

As the quote and links that I provide requires far more study than you have done....exposes which of us is lazy.

Good.

Then prove that the GOP can implement a workable plan that will increase defense spending, cut taxes, balance the budget, and pay off the national debt in a generation.

You prove it. With specifics.

Can anyone help PC here? She isn't capable of defending the rubbish she posts.
Is she really any different than Stephanie?

At least Stephanie has a job.
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


How did we get to a $17 trillion debt again?

Oh....right...by voting for a Democrat.

Gee.....are all Democrats debt-inducing?

'But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” 'http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html

The lowest annual deficits average for any president in the last 33 years would be Clinton.

You didn't address the issue.

How will the GOP

1. increase defense spending
2. lower taxes
3. balance the budget, and,
4. pay off the debt in 25 years (that's a generation)

as they are claiming they will do in your original post?

If you can't post a feasible path to those promises, you have to admit that your GOP 'principles' are little more than empty unachievable fantasies.

So, try again.
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


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Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?

Is that sarcasm?

A tariff increase would be a tax increase. That takes that off the table in any promised Republican plan, because they are promising to cut taxes even more, not raise them.
 
That's what happens when a RWnut ventures outside of the echo chamber and discovers that there's a refutation for every crazy belief the RWnuts hold.

She has chosen her cut and paste persona because she has become intellectually lazy. It is easier to play Internet games than actually engage in honest discussion


Honest debate is based on ideas.

That is exactly what I provide.

As the quote and links that I provide requires far more study than you have done....exposes which of us is lazy.

Good.

Then prove that the GOP can implement a workable plan that will increase defense spending, cut taxes, balance the budget, and pay off the national debt in a generation.

You prove it. With specifics.

Can anyone help PC here? She isn't capable of defending the rubbish she posts.
Is she really any different than Stephanie?

None at all. Stephanie doesn't quote you to avoid you shooting back at her. PC lives in her own little world of nonsense.
 





  • "Constitution: Our Constitution should be preserved, valued and honored.
No shit....every American believes that"



A fabrication right off the bat.

Liberals don't believe in the Constitution.

They endorse the absurd notion that any Liberal in a black robe can alter it as they see fit....i.e., 'the living Constitution,' which could be called 'the amendments be damned' thesis.




  1. As a basis for understanding the Commerce Clause, Professor Barnett examined over 1500 times the word ‘commerce’ appeared in the Philadelphia Gazette between 1715 and 1800. In none of these was the term used to apply more broadly than the meaning identified by Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion in ‘Lopez,’ in which he maintained that the word ‘commerce’ refers to the trade and exchange of goods, and that process, including transportation of same. A common trilogy was ‘agriculture, manufacturing and commerce.’
  2. For an originalist, direct evidence of the actual use of a word is the most important source of the word’s meaning. It is more important than referring to the ‘broader context,’ or the ‘larger context,’ or the ‘underlying principles,’ which is the means by which some jurists are able to turn ‘black’ into ‘white’, and ‘up’ into ‘down.’.” “Originalism,” Steven Calabresi,

So..."every Americans believe that " is patently false.
Only real American do.

Golly gee....how can you argue with Rush Limbaugh conservatism?

Liberals don't believe in the Constitution....even though they wrote it

Capitalists who focused on freedom of opportunity and religion wrote the Constitution. Nothing Liberal here. The Framers of the Constitution wrote nothing about citizens subsisting off the Government from Cradle To Grave. Hardly Liberal.

All men are created equal......at the time, there was no more liberal thought in the world

Conservatives supported the king....that's where the money was


Why hide behind a stolen appellation?

By now you know very well that the communist/socialist John Dewey glommed on to "Liberal" because of how the electorate caught on to 'socialism.'



In "The World Turned Upside Down," makes clear the difference between the Founders, the classical liberal, today's conservatives, .....

....and you, the Modern Liberal, the socialist, the Marxist....

Study it:

"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips

Progressives do no such thing.
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


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Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?

Is that sarcasm?

A tariff increase would be a tax increase. That takes that off the table in any promised Republican plan, because they are promising to cut taxes even more, not raise them.

A. There is nothing in the OP about How Republicans would balance the budget

B. YOU are saying it would be done with increased taxes. You did not say What Kind of Taxes

A tariff is not an individual tax.

The Republican plan says nothing about tariffs.
 
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Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


usa.gif



Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?

Is that sarcasm?

A tariff increase would be a tax increase. That takes that off the table in any promised Republican plan, because they are promising to cut taxes even more, not raise them.

No a tariff is not an individual tax.

The Republican plan says nothing about tariffs.

Well, first of all the 11 principles in the OP are not a plan, but I think it's fair to look at, for example, the GOP party platform, which at least is a bit closer to being a plan,

and I doubt you will find in that any asterisk where the Republicans point out that they don't consider tariffs taxes.

Nor do I think you will find anywhere a GOP plan to use a massive increase in tariffs as part of a scheme to pay off the debt in a generation.

And they do promise that:

We need to pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution, make government more efficient, and leave the next generation with opportunity, not debt.
 
In fact, I'm willing to make my question easier. Forget about the 17 trillion in debt.

How does the GOP plan to balance the budget, period, within the framework of increasing defense spending, and not raising taxes?

Try that one, PC (or anyone). That should be easy for you.

lol
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


usa.gif



Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?

Is that sarcasm?

A tariff increase would be a tax increase. That takes that off the table in any promised Republican plan, because they are promising to cut taxes even more, not raise them.

I actually agree with you!
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


usa.gif



Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?

Is that sarcasm?

A tariff increase would be a tax increase. That takes that off the table in any promised Republican plan, because they are promising to cut taxes even more, not raise them.

I actually agree with you!

And lived to tell about it!
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


How did we get to a $17 trillion debt again?

Oh....right...by voting for a Democrat.

Gee.....are all Democrats debt-inducing?

'But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” 'http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html

The lowest annual deficits average for any president in the last 33 years would be Clinton.

You didn't address the issue.

How will the GOP

1. increase defense spending
2. lower taxes
3. balance the budget, and,
4. pay off the debt in 25 years (that's a generation)

as they are claiming they will do in your original post?

If you can't post a feasible path to those promises, you have to admit that your GOP 'principles' are little more than empty unachievable fantasies.

So, try again.

No you'd better "try again."

"as they are claiming they will do in your original post?"

Where does:

1. increase defense spending
2. lower taxes
Appear in the OP?
 
In fact, I'm willing to make my question easier. Forget about the 17 trillion in debt.

How does the GOP plan to balance the budget, period, within the framework of increasing defense spending, and not raising taxes?

Try that one, PC (or anyone). That should be easy for you.

lol

First, we'll cut your welfare check.
 
Here's some help to get you started. To pay off a 17 trillion dollar debt in 25 years, which is considered the length of a generation,

you would have to generate a surplus of 680 billion per year. That's without counting the annual interest on the existing and remaining debt.

Go!


usa.gif



Let's call US Imports $2,000 Billion/year.

To make $680 billion/year, we need a 34% tariff on imports.

Next?

Is that sarcasm?

A tariff increase would be a tax increase. That takes that off the table in any promised Republican plan, because they are promising to cut taxes even more, not raise them.

A. There is nothing in the OP about How Republicans would balance the budget

B. YOU are saying it would be done with increased taxes. You did not say What Kind of Taxes

A tariff is not an individual tax.

The Republican plan says nothing about tariffs.

Tariffs are taxs. that's the bottom line. They increase the cost of consumer goods, so we all end up paying them.
 

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