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You're overthinking it.I said "arguably" balancing the budget, and Blues was arguing.Brown is addressing that along with his budget, but that's just not an issue that get's resolved over night.Riiiight and the California $300+ billion dollar public pension shortfall? Balanced budget my ass.
The idea that you can resolve that over night is a key element of the GOP's economic scaremongering
How does that contradict the point?
What Blues did was simply restate the dilemma, not say why Brown's proposals are bad.
I gather he didn't even know that Brown is negotiating with Unions and Democrats to address the pensions and their affect on his budget.
You probably didn't either.
Arguably meaning he didn't but you could argue it anyway?
If Brown got his budget as proposed, the budget would be balanced, and people are arguing with him
Not only that....Look at all the corporations flocking to Kansas for their low tax rateYep.Best thing for Kansas to do is cut more taxes
Wealth and prosperity will surely follow
Those struggling CEO's need their corporate deductions, as millions of dollars a year in salaries and bonuses is barely enough to send the poodle for a wash.
If the kids can't eat, they should get a job, as all state revenue 'belongs to those who make it'TM.*
*Even though most tax revenue is from the poor and middle class, and corporations receive tax credits and subsidies that often exceed the tax they pay.
Incorrect. What is 100-48.9? 51.1.*Even though most tax revenue is from the poor and middle class, and corporations receive tax credits and subsidies that often exceed the tax they pay.
How does that work since 1% of taxpayers pay 40% of taxes, 5% pay 60% and 50% pay 100%?
Not very good at math, are you?
High-income Americans pay most income taxes but enough to be fair Pew Research CenterIn 2013, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data, people with adjusted gross incomes above $250,000 paid nearly half (48.9%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.4% of all returns filed. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.6%. By contrast, people whose incomes were less than $50,000 accounted for 63.4% of all individual income tax returns filed in 2013, but they paid just 6.2% of total taxes; their average tax rate was 4.2%.
Republicans need to stop thinking it's still the 1950's.
You might want to clue in the AFL-CIO on that along with every other far left turd who points to the 1950s as justification for why we should have 80% income tax rates.
How is it wrong?There are a couple of ways to handle things like this, and since you brought up California, and state budgets.Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry
Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.
You're welcome.
More than 7,000 state employees in Kansas would be furloughed on Monday if state lawmakers cannot agree on a new annual budget by midnight on Saturday, state officials said on Friday.
The Kansas House and Senate are trying to make up an estimated $400 million revenue shortfall in the wake of tax cuts engineered by Republican Governor Sam Brownback in recent years.
Republicans can't do math.
They should be more like IL and CA, right?
Jerry Brown, having grown cantankerous and salty compared to his days as "moon beam"...has arguably managed to "balance" California's budget. The resulting new expenses for medi-cal/Medicaid expansion in California has the potential to derail that balance.
What does the more seasoned version of Brown intend to do?...he is holding back increases for provider reimbursement to Medi-Cal doctors, which was supposed to result in more Medi-Cal doctors, a big problem. In the name of "balance", for the poor, he wants to have the average tax credit be $460 a year with a maximum credit of $2,653 for families with three or more children, to complement the federal tax credit program. It would be available to individuals with incomes of less than $6,580, or up to $13,870 for families with three or more dependents.
So Jerry Brown is doing what a true fiscal conservative like Eisenhower or Goldwater would have done. He is taking government programs away from poor people, but putting more money in their pockets, so that the poor have to do the math with their own budgets, as opposed to the Government giving them a card of some type, and putting them in line for some bureaucractic process complete with uncaring state workers, forms, and inefficiency.
This is all happening now, and you'd think the Republicans would LOVE this....but wait...they can't, because Jerry Brown is a (D).
Brown has pissed off many Democrats in the state, for every Republican who is sitting back unable to approve of what he's doing.
You need to realize your side, is not interested in making things right, they're interested in promoting the Republican cause, which is getting back into power.
People like Jerry Brown are few, and he's earned my respect for how he transformed downtown Oakland as Mayor, and what he's doing as Governor.
Brown is doing fiscally conservative things out here, but they're not like what Kansas, and most Republican red states want to do.
Kansas Republicans think starving the poor, and feeding the rich, will reduce poverty.
Think of how fundamentally wrong that sentence sounds.
Well, you're totally wrong so the sentence is immaterial
Are Kansas politicians not practicing austerity to motivate the poor out of subsistence?
Oh the myriad misleading and false impressions.I'm amazed by the difference between what I write, and think, and how your head processes it sometimes.It's all the same BSIn 2000, the Gore campaign sent letters to every county on how to use technicalities to toss military write in ballots
I smell bullshit
Savage, Levin, Limbaugh or Hannity?
Brietbart, Savage, Drudge, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity
People shouldn't be allowed to listen to people you disagree with
I listen to those guys, so what made you believe I don't want it allowed?
Answer: One or all of those guys told you it's what I want, and that residual misleading and false impression was rattling around in your psyche, ready to be thrown out in haste
Yes, only liberals think, everyone else is told what to think by talk radio. And somehow the liberals who think all think the same thing and conservatives are telling me to be libertarian. Why are they doing that again? Pure rhetorical genius on your part, LOL
Then why are most red states welfare states?
dys·phe·mismHow is it wrong?There are a couple of ways to handle things like this, and since you brought up California, and state budgets.Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry
Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.
You're welcome.
Republicans can't do math.
They should be more like IL and CA, right?
Jerry Brown, having grown cantankerous and salty compared to his days as "moon beam"...has arguably managed to "balance" California's budget. The resulting new expenses for medi-cal/Medicaid expansion in California has the potential to derail that balance.
What does the more seasoned version of Brown intend to do?...he is holding back increases for provider reimbursement to Medi-Cal doctors, which was supposed to result in more Medi-Cal doctors, a big problem. In the name of "balance", for the poor, he wants to have the average tax credit be $460 a year with a maximum credit of $2,653 for families with three or more children, to complement the federal tax credit program. It would be available to individuals with incomes of less than $6,580, or up to $13,870 for families with three or more dependents.
So Jerry Brown is doing what a true fiscal conservative like Eisenhower or Goldwater would have done. He is taking government programs away from poor people, but putting more money in their pockets, so that the poor have to do the math with their own budgets, as opposed to the Government giving them a card of some type, and putting them in line for some bureaucractic process complete with uncaring state workers, forms, and inefficiency.
This is all happening now, and you'd think the Republicans would LOVE this....but wait...they can't, because Jerry Brown is a (D).
Brown has pissed off many Democrats in the state, for every Republican who is sitting back unable to approve of what he's doing.
You need to realize your side, is not interested in making things right, they're interested in promoting the Republican cause, which is getting back into power.
People like Jerry Brown are few, and he's earned my respect for how he transformed downtown Oakland as Mayor, and what he's doing as Governor.
Brown is doing fiscally conservative things out here, but they're not like what Kansas, and most Republican red states want to do.
Kansas Republicans think starving the poor, and feeding the rich, will reduce poverty.
Think of how fundamentally wrong that sentence sounds.
Well, you're totally wrong so the sentence is immaterial
Are Kansas politicians not practicing austerity to motivate the poor out of subsistence?
Well you're lying about staring the poor so that makes it wrong
So when do we get to meet the Wizard of Oz? Which Corporation will rule them all?Not only that....Look at all the corporations flocking to Kansas for their low tax rateYep.Best thing for Kansas to do is cut more taxes
Wealth and prosperity will surely follow
Those struggling CEO's need their corporate deductions, as millions of dollars a year in salaries and bonuses is barely enough to send the poodle for a wash.
If the kids can't eat, they should get a job, as all state revenue 'belongs to those who make it'TM.*
*Even though most tax revenue is from the poor and middle class, and corporations receive tax credits and subsidies that often exceed the tax they pay.
dys·phe·mismHow is it wrong?There are a couple of ways to handle things like this, and since you brought up California, and state budgets.They should be more like IL and CA, right?
Jerry Brown, having grown cantankerous and salty compared to his days as "moon beam"...has arguably managed to "balance" California's budget. The resulting new expenses for medi-cal/Medicaid expansion in California has the potential to derail that balance.
What does the more seasoned version of Brown intend to do?...he is holding back increases for provider reimbursement to Medi-Cal doctors, which was supposed to result in more Medi-Cal doctors, a big problem. In the name of "balance", for the poor, he wants to have the average tax credit be $460 a year with a maximum credit of $2,653 for families with three or more children, to complement the federal tax credit program. It would be available to individuals with incomes of less than $6,580, or up to $13,870 for families with three or more dependents.
So Jerry Brown is doing what a true fiscal conservative like Eisenhower or Goldwater would have done. He is taking government programs away from poor people, but putting more money in their pockets, so that the poor have to do the math with their own budgets, as opposed to the Government giving them a card of some type, and putting them in line for some bureaucractic process complete with uncaring state workers, forms, and inefficiency.
This is all happening now, and you'd think the Republicans would LOVE this....but wait...they can't, because Jerry Brown is a (D).
Brown has pissed off many Democrats in the state, for every Republican who is sitting back unable to approve of what he's doing.
You need to realize your side, is not interested in making things right, they're interested in promoting the Republican cause, which is getting back into power.
People like Jerry Brown are few, and he's earned my respect for how he transformed downtown Oakland as Mayor, and what he's doing as Governor.
Brown is doing fiscally conservative things out here, but they're not like what Kansas, and most Republican red states want to do.
Kansas Republicans think starving the poor, and feeding the rich, will reduce poverty.
Think of how fundamentally wrong that sentence sounds.
Well, you're totally wrong so the sentence is immaterial
Are Kansas politicians not practicing austerity to motivate the poor out of subsistence?
Well you're lying about staring the poor so that makes it wrong
ˈdisfəˌmizəm/
noun
noun: dysphemism; plural noun: dysphemisms
- a derogatory or unpleasant term used instead of a pleasant or neutral one, such as “loony bin” for “mental hospital.”
Always simple you are Frank.dys·phe·mismHow is it wrong?There are a couple of ways to handle things like this, and since you brought up California, and state budgets.
Jerry Brown, having grown cantankerous and salty compared to his days as "moon beam"...has arguably managed to "balance" California's budget. The resulting new expenses for medi-cal/Medicaid expansion in California has the potential to derail that balance.
What does the more seasoned version of Brown intend to do?...he is holding back increases for provider reimbursement to Medi-Cal doctors, which was supposed to result in more Medi-Cal doctors, a big problem. In the name of "balance", for the poor, he wants to have the average tax credit be $460 a year with a maximum credit of $2,653 for families with three or more children, to complement the federal tax credit program. It would be available to individuals with incomes of less than $6,580, or up to $13,870 for families with three or more dependents.
So Jerry Brown is doing what a true fiscal conservative like Eisenhower or Goldwater would have done. He is taking government programs away from poor people, but putting more money in their pockets, so that the poor have to do the math with their own budgets, as opposed to the Government giving them a card of some type, and putting them in line for some bureaucractic process complete with uncaring state workers, forms, and inefficiency.
This is all happening now, and you'd think the Republicans would LOVE this....but wait...they can't, because Jerry Brown is a (D).
Brown has pissed off many Democrats in the state, for every Republican who is sitting back unable to approve of what he's doing.
You need to realize your side, is not interested in making things right, they're interested in promoting the Republican cause, which is getting back into power.
People like Jerry Brown are few, and he's earned my respect for how he transformed downtown Oakland as Mayor, and what he's doing as Governor.
Brown is doing fiscally conservative things out here, but they're not like what Kansas, and most Republican red states want to do.
Kansas Republicans think starving the poor, and feeding the rich, will reduce poverty.
Think of how fundamentally wrong that sentence sounds.
Well, you're totally wrong so the sentence is immaterial
Are Kansas politicians not practicing austerity to motivate the poor out of subsistence?
Well you're lying about staring the poor so that makes it wrong
ˈdisfəˌmizəm/
noun
noun: dysphemism; plural noun: dysphemisms
- a derogatory or unpleasant term used instead of a pleasant or neutral one, such as “loony bin” for “mental hospital.”
Well, you're lying. No nice way of saying it.
Always simple you are Frank.dys·phe·mismHow is it wrong?Well, you're totally wrong so the sentence is immaterial
Are Kansas politicians not practicing austerity to motivate the poor out of subsistence?
Well you're lying about staring the poor so that makes it wrong
ˈdisfəˌmizəm/
noun
noun: dysphemism; plural noun: dysphemisms
- a derogatory or unpleasant term used instead of a pleasant or neutral one, such as “loony bin” for “mental hospital.”
Well, you're lying. No nice way of saying it.
So yeah, have it your way.
Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry
Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.
You're welcome.
More than 7,000 state employees in Kansas would be furloughed on Monday if state lawmakers cannot agree on a new annual budget by midnight on Saturday, state officials said on Friday.
The Kansas House and Senate are trying to make up an estimated $400 million revenue shortfall in the wake of tax cuts engineered by Republican Governor Sam Brownback in recent years.
Republicans can't do math.
Incorrect. What is 100-48.9? 51.1.*Even though most tax revenue is from the poor and middle class, and corporations receive tax credits and subsidies that often exceed the tax they pay.
How does that work since 1% of taxpayers pay 40% of taxes, 5% pay 60% and 50% pay 100%?
Not very good at math, are you?
High-income Americans pay most income taxes but enough to be fair Pew Research CenterIn 2013, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data, people with adjusted gross incomes above $250,000 paid nearly half (48.9%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.4% of all returns filed. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.6%. By contrast, people whose incomes were less than $50,000 accounted for 63.4% of all individual income tax returns filed in 2013, but they paid just 6.2% of total taxes; their average tax rate was 4.2%.
Though, if you include all those that earn below 1 million a year (which I am referring to), then you are well above that 51.1%.
Oh the myriad misleading and false impressions.I'm amazed by the difference between what I write, and think, and how your head processes it sometimes.It's all the same BSI smell bullshit
Savage, Levin, Limbaugh or Hannity?
Brietbart, Savage, Drudge, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, or Hannity
People shouldn't be allowed to listen to people you disagree with
I listen to those guys, so what made you believe I don't want it allowed?
Answer: One or all of those guys told you it's what I want, and that residual misleading and false impression was rattling around in your psyche, ready to be thrown out in haste
Yes, only liberals think, everyone else is told what to think by talk radio. And somehow the liberals who think all think the same thing and conservatives are telling me to be libertarian. Why are they doing that again? Pure rhetorical genius on your part, LOL
You are good for something Kaz.
They're not telling you what to think.
Right wing media hold focus groups to find out what their target demographic audience wants to hear.
In this case, that's you.
Then they all say that.
You stay tuned in listening to their advertisers, and voting for Republicans.
And you get the validation you seek.
Furloughing government workers is a great thing to do for the people!
I said 1% pay 40%, 5% pay 60%. You came back with that 2.4% pay about half. That contradicts me how?
And you said poor and middle class pay most of the taxes, which is obviously ridiculous
I mean it only makes sense billionaires and millionaires and corporations are not paying the same amount of taxes they did under Bill Clinton then more of that national debt that were looking at is shifted the burden is shifted on you and me is that not true?I noticed after all these years Republicans kept talking about no new taxes and cutting taxes but really only for the rich now the roads are falling apart and they have to raise taxes on all of us why didn't they not lower taxes on the rich so they would have that money now to build the roads you see this is shifting the tax burden unto us when they lower the rich taxes that ultimately raises our taxesNewsflash.....read the constitutionNewsflash, money people earn belongs to them not the state allowing people to keep their own money they earned isn't a gift from government.
It doesn't. Government has the responsibility to levy taxes
LOL, no, big guy. It says it has the authority to, that is not a responsibility to do it. This is why I keep pointing out your atrocious reading skills. They are really bad. Have you considered remedial reading?
Lol
I actually heard a great man Thom Hartmann say don't just roll back the Bush tax breaks but roll back the Reagan tax breaks to imagine the money we're not getting because of these Republicans scoundrels we're doing the building of the Rich who are now not paying their appropriate Cher
Brown is addressing that along with his budget, but that's just not an issue that get's resolved over night.Jerry Brown, having grown cantankerous and salty compared to his days as "moon beam"...has arguably managed to "balance" California's budget. The resulting new expenses for medi-cal/Medicaid expansion in California has the potential to derail that balance.
Riiiight and the California $300+ billion dollar public pension shortfall? Balanced budget my ass.
The idea that you can resolve that over night is a key element of the GOP's economic scaremongering
