GOP turning "American helping American" into Socialism - Is that a national scandal?

[bendog]

you get the same shit with a lot of the Far Left....look at Hungover....ever read that assholes threads?....in many of his threads he sounds just like the people on the right he cant stand....

What is the far left? How do you distinguish far left from just the regular left. I'd love to know who you would consider far left and who is just left.

30 years ago, those who are moderately right leaning today would be considered the 'left'. Those who are moderately left today would be considered the fringe left then, and those who are progressive and think in terms of government as mother, would have had their mental stability called into question.

So, to answer your question, just about everyone who is not to the far right of the current spectrum (which would have been a moderate right 30 years ago).

There is no one today espousing what the left pushed 30 years ago. Not even Fiengold was that left.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The GOP leadership has worked tirelessly to make their base believe American helping American is "socialism" and should be stopped. The very people helped by Social Security and Medicare believe getting government help is the road to disaster for this country. The GOP's misinformation techniques have worked so well, their base doesn't even understand that Medicare and Social Security are government programs and getting rid of government programs means disaster for them.

Republicans say we should look at Blue States to understand how all the welfare has hurt those states. Only the dollar drain from Blue States is going to Red States. The amount of money difference Red States receive from Blue States pales in comparison to what those in Blue States who are on welfare receive and is staggering.

If Red States were so self sufficient, they wouldn't be working overtime trying to lure Blue State workers to their states. They would train their own people. Only that would be (gasp) "socialism".

People don't want charity. Republicans insist they are better people because they imagine they give more to charity. Remember that story Paul Ryan plagiarized? About the little boy who did't want to be given school lunch? Well that's the thing. A little charity does nothing. Without the drain of money from Blue States to Red States, Blue States would have balanced budgets and would still be helping Blue State Citizens. It's because of that aid Blue States are able to give to their citizens that Red States are able to bleed money from those Blue States who earned it.

Perhaps we need some tough love and stop funding Red States. The only problem with that is the GOP leadership would simply let their middle class and poor die. We know that from the millions left off Medicare Expansion. That will probably cost 10,000 deaths a year in Red States.

Leftists define "help" as sticking a gun to their neighbors head and stealing their paycheck, to give to others....

Face it dean, you're just a crook, a low level thug who want's to mug others.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You got me....I was PROGJECTING

*Not sure if it should be a "G" or a "J", fuck it...put both in.

Ohh, a typo flame.

How very clever you are... You must be a democrat.

 

[Flopper]

....yawn.

Medicare | ObamaCare Watch

ObamaCare cuts a half-trillion dollars from Medicare over the next decade. These cuts are unsustainable and will lead to a reduction in the quality of care for seniors who rely on the program to secure access to needed medical services. The cuts in Medicare Advantage will impose steep costs on millions of Medicare beneficiaries, and will fall disproportionately on low income and minority seniors.

Even with these so called cuts, Medicare will double in 10 years which means that these cuts will amount to only 5% of the Medicare budget.

However the cuts are actually wrung from health-care providers, not Medicare beneficiaries. Hospitals will be paid less if they have too many re-admissions. The Medicare Advantage program offered by private insurers was suppose to save money but instead has cost Medicare hundreds of millions of dollars. Obamacare is gradually cutting the program back to the point where it equals the amount spend on Medicare beneficiaries.

It’s worth noting that the preferred plan of Republicans in 2012, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget included the same magnitude of cuts to Medicare.

 

[The T]

I do believe RDD was PROGJECTING how the Democrat party and their base is
he whines over the words, socialism, communism or Hitler, but elected Democrat congressmen can call it's citizens, terrorist...and he says NOTHING

just unbelievable and how much more gullible is that?

Not gullible...either stupid or complicit.

 

[buckeye45_73]

that's rdeans and Democrats idea of, American helping Amercians
BY FORCE through OScamCare or threatened with fines through the IRS
that's not socialism it's FASCIAM

You're right, it's FASCIAM.

Well said Steph, well said.

me too, i hate it when the federal govt dictates to companies and citizens, kinda like how hitler did......yeah it sucks to have that

 

[Andylusion]

The true ideology of republicans is, "Fuck you, me first!" Scumbags have no shame.

The true ideology of Democrap is, "Screw you, Give me what you earned!" Scumbags have no shame.

 

[Andylusion]

What laws or policies have the Democrats enacted that will move people from dependency on government to self sufficiency?

Why the heck would they do that? Dependency is another way of saying "Loyal Voter".

Democrats don't want to help people. People who are helped into being self sufficient citizens are also known as "Republicans". That's the last thing they want.

 

[Andylusion]

Guns are protected as are indirect taxes. Income tax is a direct tax. Abolish all free trade agreements and return to using tariffs here in the US and you will see enough companies return here that jobs will return. Once the economy is back in place there will be plenty of charity to go around. As was the case in the early 20th century before the Great Depression.

That's exactly what they pushed for in 1929. The 1930s were simply wonderful because of tariffs..... right?

No, if you enact protectionist policies (high tariffs on imports), you will absolutely ruin this economy. Millions of jobs will be lost.

 

[Stephanie]

The GOP leadership has worked tirelessly to make their base believe American helping American is "socialism" and should be stopped. The very people helped by Social Security and Medicare believe getting government help is the road to disaster for this country. The GOP's misinformation techniques have worked so well, their base doesn't even understand that Medicare and Social Security are government programs and getting rid of government programs means disaster for them.

Republicans say we should look at Blue States to understand how all the welfare has hurt those states. Only the dollar drain from Blue States is going to Red States. The amount of money difference Red States receive from Blue States pales in comparison to what those in Blue States who are on welfare receive and is staggering.

If Red States were so self sufficient, they wouldn't be working overtime trying to lure Blue State workers to their states. They would train their own people. Only that would be (gasp) "socialism".

People don't want charity. Republicans insist they are better people because they imagine they give more to charity. Remember that story Paul Ryan plagiarized? About the little boy who did't want to be given school lunch? Well that's the thing. A little charity does nothing. Without the drain of money from Blue States to Red States, Blue States would have balanced budgets and would still be helping Blue State Citizens. It's because of that aid Blue States are able to give to their citizens that Red States are able to bleed money from those Blue States who earned it.

Perhaps we need some tough love and stop funding Red States. The only problem with that is the GOP leadership would simply let their middle class and poor die. We know that from the millions left off Medicare Expansion. That will probably cost 10,000 deaths a year in Red States.

Leftists define "help" as sticking a gun to their neighbors head and stealing their paycheck, to give to others....

Face it dean, you're just a crook, a low level thug who want's to mug others.

Yep, that's what most Democrats are today... actually they are now Progressive/commie lite/fascist and that's what they should be called..Democrats I voted for when I could first vote, thanks to my Democrat grandfather and I was young and dumb about politics back then.... are dead and gone...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yep, that's what most Democrats are today... actually they are now Progressive/commie lite/fascist and that's what they should be called..Democrats I voted for when I could first vote, thanks to my Democrat grandfather and I was young and dumb about politics back then.... are dead and gone...

I've never met a democrat that would give a nickle of his own money to help another.

Rdean believes charity starts in the pocket of another.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The GOP leadership has worked tirelessly to make their base believe American helping American is "socialism" and should be stopped.

Just noticed this thread. Got about that far in the first post.

I see the leftists' lies about what the GOP is supposedly doing, are flowing as thick and fast as ever.

Latest one appears to be, taking GOP opposition to government "helping" Americans, and pretending they object to "Americans helping Americans" instead.

Does it ever occur to you people to ask yourselves:

If the only way you can make the GOP look bad, is to lie this blatantly about them... what does that tell you about the TRUTH of what they are doing?

 

[DiamondDave]

Imagine if Social Security were part of the stock market during the last economic meltdown. What would be left?

lets see dean, my investments were part of the stock market during the economic meltdown. I came out fine. i guess what you are trying to tell me is liberals don't know how to invest.

"I got mine, fuck you"

Thanks for summing it up.

"I want you to pay for mine, fuck you"

Thanks for summing it up

 

[The T]

lets see dean, my investments were part of the stock market during the economic meltdown. I came out fine. i guess what you are trying to tell me is liberals don't know how to invest.

"I got mine, fuck you"

Thanks for summing it up.

"I want you to pay for mine, fuck you"

Thanks for summing it up

Another worthless leftist NAILED for projection. Good Form.

 

[The T]

The GOP leadership has worked tirelessly to make their base believe American helping American is "socialism" and should be stopped.

Just noticed this thread.

I see the leftists' lies about what the GOP is supposedly doing, are flowing as thick and fast as ever.

Latest one appears to be, taking GOP opposition to government "helping" Americans, and pretending they object to "Americans helping Americans" instead.

Does it ever occur to you people to ask yourselves:

If the only way you can make the GOP look bad, is to lie this blatantly about them... what does that tell you about the TRUTH of what they are doing?

And HOW desparate does it make the left look when they know damned well the MAJOR issue is ObamaCare and the anemic economy that still hasn't recovered, and won't be anytime soon.

 

[The T]

Yep, that's what most Democrats are today... actually they are now Progressive/commie lite/fascist and that's what they should be called..Democrats I voted for when I could first vote, thanks to my Democrat grandfather and I was young and dumb about politics back then.... are dead and gone...

I've never met a democrat that would give a nickle of his own money to help another.

Rdean believes charity starts in the pocket of another.

And has the Imperial FED to make it happen.
Deany is worthless.

 

[jasonnfree]

What laws or policies have the Democrats enacted that will move people from dependency on government to self sufficiency?

They tried to tax companies that offshore jobs but the repubs and a few blue dogs voted them down. Plants staying in this country would help the job situation.

UPDATE 1-Republicans block ending offshore jobs US tax breaks | Reuters

 

[Iceweasel]

....yawn.

Medicare | ObamaCare Watch

ObamaCare cuts a half-trillion dollars from Medicare over the next decade. These cuts are unsustainable and will lead to a reduction in the quality of care for seniors who rely on the program to secure access to needed medical services. The cuts in Medicare Advantage will impose steep costs on millions of Medicare beneficiaries, and will fall disproportionately on low income and minority seniors.

Even with these so called cuts, Medicare will double in 10 years which means that these cuts will amount to only 5% of the Medicare budget.

However the cuts are actually wrung from health-care providers, not Medicare beneficiaries. Hospitals will be paid less if they have too many re-admissions. The Medicare Advantage program offered by private insurers was suppose to save money but instead has cost Medicare hundreds of millions of dollars. Obamacare is gradually cutting the program back to the point where it equals the amount spend on Medicare beneficiaries.

It’s worth noting that the preferred plan of Republicans in 2012, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget included the same magnitude of cuts to Medicare.

...without ObamaCare. Hospitals pass costs on or cut services so you didn't figure that in. Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security need fixing since they are doomed to fail, ObamaCare is the wrong answer.

 

[rdean]

privatization is still SS, it's not getting rid of it

Imagine if Social Security were part of the stock market during the last economic meltdown. What would be left?

lets see dean, my investments were part of the stock market during the economic meltdown. I came out fine. i guess what you are trying to tell me is liberals don't know how to invest.

Look at Blue States. Clearly liberals know how to invest.

 

[rdean]

Dean is proof the far left don't believe in education or common sense.

fuck off