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I should mention I was a registered Republican going back to Barry Goldwater -- and a proud Conservative as well. But the disgraceful changes in the basic nature of those two designations forced me to re-register as a Democrat in '03. The only reason I went Democrat is there is no Independent Party in New Jersey and I wish to vote in primaries.[...]
I wish I was old enough to see what the Republican Party use to be. When its members understood that compromise and working with your counterparts was something to be valued, not condemned. Maybe one day we will get back to that type of Republican, the real Republicans, not these "libertarians" or "tea partiers" that run around under the garb of the GOP making us look silly.
While I am by no means a Republican in the present sense of that designation, I do not think of myself as a Democrat either.
Deleted. My info was wrong.
Now all you need to do is delete everything you have posted!
theDoctorisIn said:Christie is apparently a "RINO" because he doesn't hate gays, Muslims or Obama.
When all else fails, play the homophobe, race and anti-Islam card. Classic leftist horseshit.
Then I'm sure you'll be able to explain exactly what makes Christie a "RINO", right?
Now all you need to do is delete everything you have posted!
When all else fails, play the homophobe, race and anti-Islam card. Classic leftist horseshit.
Then I'm sure you'll be able to explain exactly what makes Christie a "RINO", right?
Unlike you, I really don't care about Republican or Democrat. I am Libertarian, Christie is just a Republican statist/authoritarian as opposed to a Democrat statist/authoritarian. And, furthermore; where did I call Christie a RINO in my reply to you? You won't find it. I called you on a completely different issue and you are trying to divert this into a different direction.
Then I'm sure you'll be able to explain exactly what makes Christie a "RINO", right?
Unlike you, I really don't care about Republican or Democrat. I am Libertarian, Christie is just a Republican statist/authoritarian as opposed to a Democrat statist/authoritarian. And, furthermore; where did I call Christie a RINO in my reply to you? You won't find it. I called you on a completely different issue and you are trying to divert this into a different direction.
No, you didn't "call me on a completely different issue". My post was a direct response to other posts in the thread that called Christie a "RINO".
(Excerpt)Fellow New Jersian here as well. I couldn't be happier with Christy. He is my type of Republican and I consider him a true Republican. none of that crazy Michelle Bachman stuff, just a good old fashion, get it done type of guy.
Christie would be a typical democrat if the democrat party didn't evolve into something monstrous. He is liberal on every issue that is important to democrats. The problem for Christie was that he couldn't get endorsed by the party because he is too outspoken and honest for the DNC to control so he ran as a republican. When he appoints a democrat to the senate it will be perfectly clear that Christie is a RINO in the truest sense. I would hope that the democrat party takes him back into the fold . It would be the best thing all around.
Governor Christie is more a statesman as opposed to the wingnut pols in Washington
In my opinion, he put himself before his constituents.
ummm..... okThats why he told the Washington denizens to quit bickering & get the job done after Sandy.
I'm talking about the election.
Unlike you, I really don't care about Republican or Democrat. I am Libertarian, Christie is just a Republican statist/authoritarian as opposed to a Democrat statist/authoritarian. And, furthermore; where did I call Christie a RINO in my reply to you? You won't find it. I called you on a completely different issue and you are trying to divert this into a different direction.
No, you didn't "call me on a completely different issue". My post was a direct response to other posts in the thread that called Christie a "RINO".
Yes, I did call you on an issue in my original reply to you and you won't address it. You are trying to lump me into those who called Christie RINO as a way to get out of my calling you out. I did not call Christie a RINO, if this is an issue with those who did call him a RINO, bring it up with them, not me. If you are not gonna address what I called you on, the don't even waste your time replying, because you are wasting my time.....SpinDoctor
theDoctorisIn said:Christie is apparently a "RINO" because he doesn't hate gays, Muslims or Obama.
When all else fails, play the homophobe, race and anti-Islam card. Classic leftist horseshit.
I admit I voted for Obama in '08, but he was neither my first nor second choice. Kucinich and Gravel were. I held my nose and voted for Obama because the choice was him or McCain, who is a dull-witted war monger.Do you mean Dems whom are disenchanted w/ Obama whom would never admit they voted for him, even tho' they did?
Praytell, inquiring minds want to know.
But Obama has been an increasingly severe disappointment who apparently has been installed by the financial shadow government to maintain the status quo as inconspicuously as possible.
The fact is I am so disgusted by and with Obama I didn't even vote last time around. That's how bad the situation seems to me. Given the choice of Obama or Romney was analogous to choosing between lung cancer or stomach cancer.
Now there are murmers of a possible Christie candidacy. Without getting into the details of this man's underlying autocratic nature --
-- is this what we wish to show to the world as America's leader? Is the the best we can do? Or is he a reflection of exactly what we've become . . . ?
Christie would be a typical democrat if the democrat party didn't evolve into something monstrous. He is liberal on every issue that is important to democrats. The problem for Christie was that he couldn't get endorsed by the party because he is too outspoken and honest for the DNC to control so he ran as a republican. When he appoints a democrat to the senate it will be perfectly clear that Christie is a RINO in the truest sense. I would hope that the democrat party takes him back into the fold . It would be the best thing all around.
Chris Christie is a Republican in literally every sense of the word if the Republican party did not evolve into what it has today. Hell, you people would be calling Eisenhower a full on liberal you're that backwards. You are the kind of person who says if you give immigrants amnesty or raise taxes or increase government in certain parts, then you are a full on liberal. Then you realize that Ronald Reagan did all three of those things and you are left speechless. You have been blinded by the Limbaugh's of the world and it is sad.
I wish I was old enough to see what the Republican Party use to be. When its members understood that compromise and working with your counterparts was something to be valued, not condemned. Maybe one day we will get back to that type of Republican, the real Republicans, not these "libertarians" or "tea partiers" that run around under the garb of the GOP making us look silly.
I should mention I was a registered Republican going back to Barry Goldwater -- and a proud Conservative as well. But the disgraceful changes in the basic nature of those two designations forced me to re-register as a Democrat in '03. The only reason I went Democrat is there is no Independent Party in New Jersey and I wish to vote in primaries.[...]
I wish I was old enough to see what the Republican Party use to be. When its members understood that compromise and working with your counterparts was something to be valued, not condemned. Maybe one day we will get back to that type of Republican, the real Republicans, not these "libertarians" or "tea partiers" that run around under the garb of the GOP making us look silly.
While I am by no means a Republican in the present sense of that designation, I do not think of myself as a Democrat either.
Fellow New Jersian here as well. I couldn't be happier with Christy. He is my type of Republican and I consider him a true Republican. none of that crazy Michelle Bachman stuff, just a good old fashion, get it done type of guy.
Do you mean Dems whom are disenchanted w/ Obama whom would never admit they voted for him, even tho' they did?
Praytell, inquiring minds want to know.
I admit I voted for Obama in '08, but he was neither my first nor second choice. Kucinich and Gravel were. I held my nose and voted for Obama because the choice was him or McCain, who is a dull-witted war monger.Do you mean Dems whom are disenchanted w/ Obama whom would never admit they voted for him, even tho' they did?
Praytell, inquiring minds want to know.
But Obama has been an increasingly severe disappointment who apparently has been installed by the financial shadow government to maintain the status quo as inconspicuously as possible.
The fact is I am so disgusted by and with Obama I didn't even vote last time around. That's how bad the situation seems to me. Given the choice of Obama or Romney was analogous to choosing between lung cancer or stomach cancer.
Now there are murmers of a possible Christie candidacy. Without getting into the details of this man's underlying autocratic nature --
-- is this what we wish to show to the world as America's leader? Is the the best we can do? Or is he a reflection of exactly what we've become . . . ?
No, but he's the best the GObP has to offer.
So much more so than the people that were in control in the GOP during Katrina.
Christie would be a typical democrat if the democrat party didn't evolve into something monstrous. He is liberal on every issue that is important to democrats. The problem for Christie was that he couldn't get endorsed by the party because he is too outspoken and honest for the DNC to control so he ran as a republican. When he appoints a democrat to the senate it will be perfectly clear that Christie is a RINO in the truest sense. I would hope that the democrat party takes him back into the fold . It would be the best thing all around.
He's trying to avoid appointing anybody, hence the election thing.
Look, Liability said it best on his OP: If he appointed anyone, Democrat or Republican, he'd be shooting himself in the foot. He's a Republican Governor in a Democrat state, and although I think he has the pull to survive appointing a Republican senator in the short term, I doubt he'd be reelected in his state.
I don't see how giving it to the people makes him a RINO. Does it make him spend tons of money his state doesn't have? Yeah. But that's your average politician so I don't see how that makes him different from any of the Left or the Right.
Like it or not, I think the GOP needs Christie far more than the Dems do... I mean, lets face it, the media's done a good job of making you look like the bad guys in everything. If Democrats like him, then that's a mark against the normal MSM propaganda. I'd take him over Romney or Obama for sure.
(Speaking of which, I've heard people accuse Rand Paul and Rubio of being RINOs too. What's up with that?)
Conservatives don't trust Christie, so if the Republican run him in 2016 it's time to leave the Party
Conservatives don't trust Christie, so if the Republican run him in 2016 it's time to leave the Party
Don't worry... if fatass runs for president in '16, it will be as a democrat, and little snot nosed poser punks like the pretender youngrepublican will vote for him.
TRUE conservatives will be looking for someone like Dr. Ben Carson, Alan West or even Rand Paul to run.
