Greece’s Economy Is a Lesson for Republicans in the U.S.

[Billy000]

And they still manage to have the 4th biggest national economy in the world.

Norway is the 4th biggest economy in the world?
Holy shit! You're stupid.

"4th biggest national economy in the world."

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Ok you're dumb. They mean the same thing.

 

[Socialist]

And they still manage to have the 4th biggest national economy in the world.

Norway is the 4th biggest economy in the world?
Holy shit! You're stupid.

"4th biggest national economy in the world."

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Same thing, even though his claim was essentially correct.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah...we are too busy protecting them while they spend as much as they want on government benefits....while they get to keep their wealth from their North Sea oil rigs......imagine if they actually had to be responsible for their own national security and their people had to serve in heir military instead of living off of government hand outs.....but don't worry...a friend of mine...a Norwegian, said they are importing immigrants from violent 3rd world countries to do the work Norwegians won't do....and bringing their violent, misogynist cultures with them...

How the hell are we to busy protecting them? This argument is fucking retarded, our defense spending is more then the next top 8 countries combined, counting russia/china, and the UN nations/scandinavia are well fortified regardless of the US, and honestly, show me one example of us protecting them in the modern day. How much wealth do you think they get from oil? All nations have resources by the way, and what about countries like germany/finland/sweden/etc?

How much wealth do you think they get from oil?

They exported about 1.3 million barrels a day in 2012.
About 475 million barrels. Not bad for a nation with 5.1 million people.

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

 

[Socialist]

I'd like to see one successful country with a "small government" that worked well. Somalia?

I'd like to see one successful country with a "small government" that worked well.

The US pre-FDR.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates, a lack of a social safety net, a lack of guaranteed savings, a lack of regulation (Hm, what caused the great depression?)

Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates

How many homeless seniors in 1928?

Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much.

So you can't back up your claim, I'm shocked!

Seriously? It's common sense.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Norway is the 4th biggest economy in the world?
Holy shit! You're stupid.

"4th biggest national economy in the world."

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Ok you're dumb. They mean the same thing.

Great. Norway's economy is the 50th largest in the world, not the 4th. Moron.

 

[Socialist]

How the hell are we to busy protecting them? This argument is fucking retarded, our defense spending is more then the next top 8 countries combined, counting russia/china, and the UN nations/scandinavia are well fortified regardless of the US, and honestly, show me one example of us protecting them in the modern day. How much wealth do you think they get from oil? All nations have resources by the way, and what about countries like germany/finland/sweden/etc?

How much wealth do you think they get from oil?

They exported about 1.3 million barrels a day in 2012.
About 475 million barrels. Not bad for a nation with 5.1 million people.

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

Yeah, because it's 14% and norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil (Which will not happen for a long time) and not like Norway has other resources or anything..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Norway is the 4th biggest economy in the world?
Holy shit! You're stupid.

"4th biggest national economy in the world."

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Same thing, even though his claim was essentially correct.

Not even close.
Japan is the 4th largest.
Norway ranks behind Peru and Romania.

 

[Socialist]

"4th biggest national economy in the world."

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Ok you're dumb. They mean the same thing.

Great. Norway's economy is the 50th largest in the world, not the 4th. Moron.

The World s Richest Countries - Forbes
"In Norway, which ranks fourth"
He may be referring to GDP though.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'd like to see one successful country with a "small government" that worked well.

The US pre-FDR.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates, a lack of a social safety net, a lack of guaranteed savings, a lack of regulation (Hm, what caused the great depression?)

Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates

How many homeless seniors in 1928?

Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much.

So you can't back up your claim, I'm shocked!

Seriously? It's common sense.

Common sense that there was massive homelessness of seniors in 1928? LOL!

 

[SAYIT]

You know the problem is that you are preaching to people (republicans) who don't even understand what socialism is. They see no difference between Norway and North Korea. They are that brainwashed. Fox News has them by the balls.

I wish the U.S. could be more like Norway but I doubt that will ever happen.

Yeah...we are too busy protecting them while they spend as much as they want on government benefits....while they get to keep their wealth from their North Sea oil rigs......imagine if they actually had to be responsible for their own national security and their people had to serve in heir military instead of living off of government hand outs.....but don't worry...a friend of mine...a Norwegian, said they are importing immigrants from violent 3rd world countries to do the work Norwegians won't do....and bringing their violent, misogynist cultures with them...

How the hell are we to busy protecting them? This argument is fucking retarded, our defense spending is more then the next top 8 countries combined, counting russia/china, and the UN nations/scandinavia are well fortified regardless of the US, and honestly, show me one example of us protecting them in the modern day. How much wealth do you think they get from oil? All nations have resources by the way, and what about countries like germany/finland/sweden/etc?

How much wealth do you think they get from oil?

They exported about 1.3 million barrels a day in 2012.
About 475 million barrels. Not bad for a nation with 5.1 million people.

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

Norway's oil and gas exports provide 28% of gov't revenue. Nice.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How much wealth do you think they get from oil?

They exported about 1.3 million barrels a day in 2012.
About 475 million barrels. Not bad for a nation with 5.1 million people.

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

Yeah, because it's 14% and norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil (Which will not happen for a long time) and not like Norway has other resources or anything..

norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil

It helps that they've saved 2.5 times their GDP, from their oil revenues.

 

[Socialist]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates, a lack of a social safety net, a lack of guaranteed savings, a lack of regulation (Hm, what caused the great depression?)

Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates

How many homeless seniors in 1928?

Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much.

So you can't back up your claim, I'm shocked!

Seriously? It's common sense.

Common sense that there was massive homelessness of seniors in 1928? LOL!

"Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much."
Referring to the periods before any sort of way to protect seniors, it's seriously common sense.
http://scholarworks.umb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1538&context=nejpp

 

[Socialist]

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

Yeah, because it's 14% and norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil (Which will not happen for a long time) and not like Norway has other resources or anything..

norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil

It helps that they've saved 2.5 times their GDP, from their oil revenues.

What I'm getting from this is: If a country has resources (Many do) and uses them effectively to help its own people, it's social programs can't be copied anywhere else despite almost all of the world following them apart from the U.S., which is rich in resources. It's about priorities.

 

[Billy000]

"4th biggest national economy in the world."

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Ok you're dumb. They mean the same thing.

Great. Norway's economy is the 50th largest in the world, not the 4th. Moron.

No you doofus. As an economy on a national scale, it is the 4th biggest.

 

[SAYIT]

How much wealth do you think they get from oil?

They exported about 1.3 million barrels a day in 2012.
About 475 million barrels. Not bad for a nation with 5.1 million people.

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

Yeah, because it's 14% and norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil (Which will not happen for a long time) and not like Norway has other resources or anything..

In fact, Norway does have other resources:
Norway has extensive reserves of petroleum, natural gas, minerals, lumber, seafood, fresh water, and hydropower. The petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of the country's gross domestic product.

Norway - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, nothing like seniors being homeless in massive rates

How many homeless seniors in 1928?

Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much.

So you can't back up your claim, I'm shocked!

Seriously? It's common sense.

Common sense that there was massive homelessness of seniors in 1928? LOL!

"Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much."
Referring to the periods before any sort of way to protect seniors, it's seriously common sense.
http://scholarworks.umb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1538&context=nejpp

Prove your homeless claim already.

 

[Socialist]

Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much.

So you can't back up your claim, I'm shocked!

Seriously? It's common sense.

Common sense that there was massive homelessness of seniors in 1928? LOL!

"Worse then before social security, I can tell you that much."
Referring to the periods before any sort of way to protect seniors, it's seriously common sense.
http://scholarworks.umb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1538&context=nejpp

Prove your homeless claim already.

I just did, do you not know how to follow a link? None the less, even today, homelessness is rising at shocking levels..
SENIOR POVERTY - JUSTICE IN AGING

Senior poverty is on the rise. Combine an aging population with levels of income inequality not seen since the 1920s and you have a epidemic of suffering. Housing costs are rising, and skyrocketing health care costs devour more of the monthly budget than ever before. The solution is to preserve and expand social safety net programs like SSI and Medicaid to meet the growing needs of growing numbers of low-income seniors.

Need by the numbers:

• Every day 10,000 people in America turn 65.
• By 2030 there will be 72 million seniors living in poverty in America.
• Pensions are rare in today’s economy and the average worker doesn’t have enough opportunity to save for retirement
• Nearly 1 in 5 seniors approaching retirement have no retirement savings at all.
• 54% of working-age households were unprepared for retirement in 2010 compared to 31% in 1983
• Homelessness among seniors is projected to increase 33% by 2020 and 100% by 2050
• In 2013, 2.9 million (9%) households with seniors experienced food insecurity.
• The number of food insecure seniors is projected to increase by 50% when the youngest of the Baby Boom Generation reaches age 60 in 2025
• Hungry seniors are 60 percent more likely to experience depression, 53 percent more likely to report a heart attack, 52 percent more likely to develop asthma, 40 percent more likely to report an experience of congestive heart failure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

Yeah, because it's 14% and norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil (Which will not happen for a long time) and not like Norway has other resources or anything..

norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil

It helps that they've saved 2.5 times their GDP, from their oil revenues.

What I'm getting from this is: If a country has resources (Many do) and uses them effectively to help its own people, it's social programs can't be copied anywhere else despite almost all of the world following them apart from the U.S., which is rich in resources. It's about priorities.

Sure, if we had 5 million citizens and didn't allow millions of low skilled illegals to invade and didn't defend the free world with our military, we could spend our oil bonanza on social goodies too.

 

[Socialist]

Yes, but I mean as a percent of what they're bringing in. Many countries are resource rich, and many get by fine with generous state programs like germany/etc..

GDP in 2012 was about $330 billion.
At $100/bbl, that's 14% of GDP, just from oil exports.

I rest my case.

You often do after I highlight your idiocy.

Yeah, because it's 14% and norway won't collapse if it lost it's oil (Which will not happen for a long time) and not like Norway has other resources or anything..

In fact, Norway does have other resources:
Norway has extensive reserves of petroleum, natural gas, minerals, lumber, seafood, fresh water, and hydropower. The petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of the country's gross domestic product.

Norway - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I know they have other resources..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What the fuck is the difference?

National you simpleton. I didn't say it had the 4th biggest economy. I said it had the 4th biggest national economy. Are you really this dumb?

I said it had the 4th biggest national economy.

Explain the difference between a nation's economy and a national economy.

Ok you're dumb. They mean the same thing.

Great. Norway's economy is the 50th largest in the world, not the 4th. Moron.

No you doofus. As an economy on a national scale, it is the 4th biggest.

As an economy on a national scale

What does this mean? Government spending? GDP? Exports? Social spending? What?