Griner needs to be brought back home

[ColonelAngus]

Let her learn that by rotting in a Russian Gulag.

My great grandfather did. And I do not want her to.

 

[Hellbilly]

She shit all over her home.

You shit all over Americans all the time.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That is my point.

I have zero sympathy for her. None, zero, nada.

She made her statement here, did something stupid she knew was wrong and there she is.

I simply don't care

 

[bripat9643]

My great grandfather did. And I do not want her to.

I do.

 

[Rigby5]

Nah. She broke a foriegn nations laws she has to pay their price.

If people aren't punished by the law then they won't be an example to others what happens if you don't follow the rules. America may not treat criminals like criminals anymore but Russia sure as hell does.

I wish america was just as strict with it's prisoners as Russia does. If we treated criminals like criminals our crime issues would be drastically lower than they are.

That America hating twat can rot.

What is criminal or not has to be based on principles of legal justice.
Which is that all legal authority comes from the defense of the inherent rights of others.
But since drugs only effect the user and no one else, they can not then be legally punished.
There is no source of legal authority to base such punishment on.
It is a autocratic edict, which is contrary to the principles of legal justice.
It is like the Prohibition of alcohol.
Which clearly showed it was a bad idea, since it increased crime by over a factor of 10.
People naturally resent autocratic edicts, so will correctly violate such laws deliberately.
It is counter productive and only diminishes any respect one might have otherwise had for government, law, justice, etc.

That being said, we have no right to tell Russia what to do.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Among my conservative values is redemption and forgiveness.

She didnt run over the dancing gannies with an SUV. She was holding in a foreign country and she is a stupid asshole.

Anyway, thats my take.

Again, part of what makes the US great is our ability to disagree.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What is criminal or not has to be based on principles of legal justice.
Which is that all legal authority comes from the defense of the inherent rights of others.
But since drugs only effect the user and no one else, they can not then be legally punished.
There is no source of legal authority to base such punishment on.
It is a autocratic edict, which is contrary to the principles of legal justice.
It is like the Prohibition of alcohol.
Which clearly showed it was a bad idea, since it increased crime by over a factor of 10.
People naturally resent autocratic edicts, so will correctly violate such laws deliberately.
It is counter productive and only diminishes any respect one might have otherwise had for government, law, justice, etc.

That being said, we have no right to tell Russia what to do.

She broke Russian laws... now she pays Russian punishment

 

[Rigby5]

She shit all over her home.

Let her do her time and mull it over

Wrong.
She conducted a legitimate political awareness act in order to try to make this country a better place.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Wrong.
She conducted a legitimate political awareness act in order to try to make this country a better place.

She conducted a legitimate political awareness act because she was indoctrinated by you cult fucks.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Wrong.
She conducted a legitimate political awareness act in order to try to make this country a better place.

You actually believe some dyke was going to influence me or anyone else? She looks a fool right now screaming for the nation she shit on to save her doped ass

 

[Ralph Norton]

But since drugs only effect the user and no one else, they can not then be legally punished.

Apparently they can.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong.
She conducted a legitimate political awareness act in order to try to make this country a better place.

She broke Russian law.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Apparently they can.

Rigbey should hop on a plane and tell Russia that

 

[ColonelAngus]

We can disagree in this, my conservative friends, but I would like to see her come back home.

I do not think she should serve 9 years in a gulag.

My great grandfather did. If we relish in her misery for essentially nothing. It seems ghoulish.

You are all welcome to disagree.

 

[Rigby5]

I see a future episode of Locked up Abroad in the making.
She isn't the first dumbass who screwed up in a foreign country. .
Zero sympathy.

Why zero sympathy?
She harmed no one, had no attempt to profit from it, and could easily have made a simple mistake anyone could have made in packing.

 

[Rigby5]

Let her learn that by rotting in a Russian Gulag.

Learn what?

 

[Rigby5]

She broke Russian laws... now she pays Russian punishment

Law implies basic principles, like mitigation.
She harmed no one, and there was no indication of deliberate intent.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Why zero sympathy?
She harmed no one, had no attempt to profit from it, and could easily have made a simple mistake anyone could have made in packing.

She broke Russian law. You can harp all day but it's Russia law.

 

[Rigby5]

Rigbey should hop on a plane and tell Russia that

Russia has no interest in legal justice because they are angry over the illegal US economic sanctions.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Law implies basic principles, like mitigation.
She harmed no one, and there was no indication of deliberate intent.

She broke Russian law. You can't get around that...and I don't really care