Group Of DNC Members Discussing Rules Change To Stop Sanders At Convention

[Deplorable Yankee]

The Republic is again threatened by citizens trying to elect their leaders!

DNC members discuss rules change to stop Sanders at convention

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trump trounced the opposition in debates. These debates so far have not had a clear winner IMO. The party is definitely divided between Leftists and Liberals. I believe the party knows Sanders cannot win in the general election so it is hamstrung. I am genuinely curious to see what happens. I was at a meeting with a business owner, who is a Leftist but not as illogical as you. Still he was a Sanders guy but being a business owner he said he will likely vote for Trump due to selfish reasons as his business is doing well and he is nervous the Democrats would raise the minimum wage, which would severely impact his business. Interesting.

He didn't trounce them. His debate skills where nothing - but he knew how to reach out to them, he knew what to say - he's a populist and a showman and he reads his base well. He was the only one of the herd to stand out as different and most importantly - not establishment. And it's non-establishment figures that seem to be rising in elections around the world recently.

I would assume you are any more logical than I. You haven't made that apparent in your debates.

He trounced them. Someone with zero political experience used simple words and phrases to push them out and handily won the nomination. Sometimes the KISS method works. Obviously who is logical or illogical is subjective but to me your posts consistently lack logic and common sense. This is not atypical for Leftists. You call me a “Trumpist”, whatever that means. You’re illogical.

I base it on what I observe in your posts and again - pot, kettle, black. You don't like? Consider how you broad brush others and leftists. We might find a common ground some day.

He trounced them not on his debate abilities or even ideas, but on his ability to reach the base and stand out in a herd of largely similar candidates.

Trump: Populism

Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite". The term developed in the 19th century and has been applied to various politicians, parties, and movements since that time, although has rarely been chosen as a self-description. Within political science and other social sciences, several different definitions of populism have been employed, with some scholars proposing that the term be rejected altogether.

A common framework for interpreting populism is known as the ideational approach: this defines populism as an ideology which presents "the people" as a morally good force and contrasts them against "the elite", who are portrayed as corrupt and self-serving. Populists differ in how "the people" are defined, but it can be based along class, ethnic, or national lines. Populists typically present "the elite" as comprising the political, economic, cultural, and media establishment, depicted as a homogeneous entity and accused of placing their own interests, and often the interests of other groups—such as large corporations, foreign countries, or immigrants—above the interests of "the people". Populist parties and social movements are often led by charismatic or dominant figures who present themselves as the "voice of the people". According to the ideational approach, populism is often combined with other ideologies, such as nationalism, liberalism, or socialism. Thus, populists can be found at different locations along the left–right political spectrum, and there exist both left-wing populism and right-wing populism.
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The Democrats are suffering the same problem in their field of primary candidates - a big herd, kind of similar. Which makes me think their base might go far left, someone who seems non establishment and stands out.

Yep but they cannot win the general election. I am Moderate you’re Alt Right.

Based on what you post here you are someone who broad brushes, name calls and stereotypes and get's pissy when someone does it to you and calls you a Trumpist.

I'm a moderate/center in some and left in others. Really depends on the issue. But we don't discuss issues do we?

Dems could win a general election, they have before, and they will again.

I would normally say a candidate like Warren or Sanders is to far to the left to win. BUT - I also said a candidate like Trump would have been too far to the right to win a general election. But he did. So who can predict? I doubt the Dems will go for a brokered convention, I think that is largely rumor mongering - the same as it was in the last election, where, despite those rumors Clinton won the primaries fair and square. A brokered convention is very risky.

I don't have a choice yet (but it won't be Trump - he is the antithesis of many things I stand for).

We did discuss issues. Like Israel. Pretty sure you called them an oppressive, apartheid state? Am I incorrect? You also call people who voted for Trump, “Trumpists”. What else would you like to debate?

 

[Coyote]

He didn't trounce them. His debate skills where nothing - but he knew how to reach out to them, he knew what to say - he's a populist and a showman and he reads his base well. He was the only one of the herd to stand out as different and most importantly - not establishment. And it's non-establishment figures that seem to be rising in elections around the world recently.

I would assume you are any more logical than I. You haven't made that apparent in your debates.

He trounced them. Someone with zero political experience used simple words and phrases to push them out and handily won the nomination. Sometimes the KISS method works. Obviously who is logical or illogical is subjective but to me your posts consistently lack logic and common sense. This is not atypical for Leftists. You call me a “Trumpist”, whatever that means. You’re illogical.

I base it on what I observe in your posts and again - pot, kettle, black. You don't like? Consider how you broad brush others and leftists. We might find a common ground some day.

He trounced them not on his debate abilities or even ideas, but on his ability to reach the base and stand out in a herd of largely similar candidates.

Trump: Populism

Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite". The term developed in the 19th century and has been applied to various politicians, parties, and movements since that time, although has rarely been chosen as a self-description. Within political science and other social sciences, several different definitions of populism have been employed, with some scholars proposing that the term be rejected altogether.

A common framework for interpreting populism is known as the ideational approach: this defines populism as an ideology which presents "the people" as a morally good force and contrasts them against "the elite", who are portrayed as corrupt and self-serving. Populists differ in how "the people" are defined, but it can be based along class, ethnic, or national lines. Populists typically present "the elite" as comprising the political, economic, cultural, and media establishment, depicted as a homogeneous entity and accused of placing their own interests, and often the interests of other groups—such as large corporations, foreign countries, or immigrants—above the interests of "the people". Populist parties and social movements are often led by charismatic or dominant figures who present themselves as the "voice of the people". According to the ideational approach, populism is often combined with other ideologies, such as nationalism, liberalism, or socialism. Thus, populists can be found at different locations along the left–right political spectrum, and there exist both left-wing populism and right-wing populism.
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The Democrats are suffering the same problem in their field of primary candidates - a big herd, kind of similar. Which makes me think their base might go far left, someone who seems non establishment and stands out.

Yep but they cannot win the general election. I am Moderate you’re Alt Right.

Based on what you post here you are someone who broad brushes, name calls and stereotypes and get's pissy when someone does it to you and calls you a Trumpist.

I'm a moderate/center in some and left in others. Really depends on the issue. But we don't discuss issues do we?

Dems could win a general election, they have before, and they will again.

I would normally say a candidate like Warren or Sanders is to far to the left to win. BUT - I also said a candidate like Trump would have been too far to the right to win a general election. But he did. So who can predict? I doubt the Dems will go for a brokered convention, I think that is largely rumor mongering - the same as it was in the last election, where, despite those rumors Clinton won the primaries fair and square. A brokered convention is very risky.

I don't have a choice yet (but it won't be Trump - he is the antithesis of many things I stand for).

We did discuss issues. Like Israel. Pretty sure you called them an oppressive, apartheid state? Am I incorrect? You also call people who voted for Trump, “Trumpists”. What else would you like to debate?

I started a new thread for it in Badlands. Join me there. Not going to derail this thread.