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You've used the 1.5 m DGU number before but I don't recall you citing the DoJ. I know the Kleck survey found a large number but I can't find any DoJ survey, only a Kleck citation. Is the 1.5 m number Kleck's or not?No one is giving up their rights for the 2nd Amendment.......criminals killing people has nothing to do with our right to keep and bear arms.......Americans use guns to save lives 1,500,000 times a year.....according to the Department of Justice.......so guns in the hands of normal, law abiding, good people save far more lives than they take when they are misused, and used illegally.......
You are obviously just trying to cause trouble.....you should stop.
Regardless, I find it somewhat hypocritical that you accept this survey but not previous ones we discussed. As I recall you said people lie to anonymous callers. True or do you want to have it both ways?
No idea where you're taking me but... I've never invoked the 5th Amendment but I'm sure some guilty people have.Alan, have you ever needed your 5th Amendment rights? Can we agree that SOME people have used their 5th Amendment right to get away with a crime which allowed them to harm more people?
No idea where you're taking me but... I've never invoked the 5th Amendment but I'm sure some guilty people have.Alan, have you ever needed your 5th Amendment rights? Can we agree that SOME people have used their 5th Amendment right to get away with a crime which allowed them to harm more people?
not the same. if you can't convict w/o a confession you don't really know they are guilty.No idea where you're taking me but... I've never invoked the 5th Amendment but I'm sure some guilty people have.Alan, have you ever needed your 5th Amendment rights? Can we agree that SOME people have used their 5th Amendment right to get away with a crime which allowed them to harm more people?
No doubt some guilty people have used the 5th which DIRECTLY led to them harming more people later on, so we should remove YOUR 5th Amendment rights , right?
not the same. if you can't convict w/o a confession you don't really know they are guilty.No idea where you're taking me but... I've never invoked the 5th Amendment but I'm sure some guilty people have.Alan, have you ever needed your 5th Amendment rights? Can we agree that SOME people have used their 5th Amendment right to get away with a crime which allowed them to harm more people?
No doubt some guilty people have used the 5th which DIRECTLY led to them harming more people later on, so we should remove YOUR 5th Amendment rights , right?
I admire your ideological purity but not your values.I'm suggesting removing one of your enumerated rights because SOME people have misused that right.
Got it. Your right to a gun is more important than the lives of 50 million people. That sounds fair and balanced to me.Would you remove the fences that keep people from jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge? How many people would you be willing to let die to ensure there are no restrictions on your precious 2nd? Rights have value but so do lives, IMHO.and not having buildings over 2 stories will prevent some, not having trains will prevent others, not having prescription and over the counter drugs will prevent others............
If 50M Americans chose to use a gun to kill 50M other Americans TOMORROW, I would STILL object to you removing MY rights based on what other CHOSE to do.
GOT IT? Good.
On the contrary, you value your rights, that is why you refuse to give them up. In fact, as you've said, you value them more you value human life. You can give up your life for your rights, many good people did just that to give you your 2nd amendment right, but I don't think it is moral to ask others to give up their lives for your rights. Those are my values.My values have nothing to do with the conversation. I refuse to give up my rights. PERIOD
I admire your ideological purity but not your values.I'm suggesting removing one of your enumerated rights because SOME people have misused that right.
I don't believe all rights are created equal. As important as the 5th or 2nd is, it is trumped by the right to life.
I admire your ideological purity but not your values.I'm suggesting removing one of your enumerated rights because SOME people have misused that right.
I don't believe all rights are created equal. As important as the 5th or 2nd is, it is trumped by the right to life.
Do you live on your own planet? If a criminal breaks into your house and steals your gun then we're all a little less safe.My life and what I do with has absolutely nothing to do with yours or anyone else's life
How does my owning a gun make you or anyone else less safe?
Let me help you out here
It doesn't
Do you live on your own planet? If a criminal breaks into your house and steals your gun then we're all a little less safe.My life and what I do with has absolutely nothing to do with yours or anyone else's life
How does my owning a gun make you or anyone else less safe?
Let me help you out here
It doesn't
True enough but this country and the Constitution are founded on some unalienable Rights.I admire your ideological purity but not your values.I'm suggesting removing one of your enumerated rights because SOME people have misused that right.
I don't believe all rights are created equal. As important as the 5th or 2nd is, it is trumped by the right to life.
There is no right to life in the Bill of Rights
Do you live on your own planet? If a criminal breaks into your house and steals your gun then we're all a little less safe.My life and what I do with has absolutely nothing to do with yours or anyone else's life
How does my owning a gun make you or anyone else less safe?
Let me help you out here
It doesn't
True enough but this country and the Constitution are founded on some unalienable Rights.I admire your ideological purity but not your values.I'm suggesting removing one of your enumerated rights because SOME people have misused that right.
I don't believe all rights are created equal. As important as the 5th or 2nd is, it is trumped by the right to life.
There is no right to life in the Bill of Rights
Excellent! My compliments on your set up.Do you live on your own planet? If a criminal breaks into your house and steals your gun then we're all a little less safe.My life and what I do with has absolutely nothing to do with yours or anyone else's life
How does my owning a gun make you or anyone else less safe?
Let me help you out here
It doesn't
When I am not home no one can steal my guns as they are locked in a 500 lb safe with a 6 digit combination lock that is secured by concrete anchors in my basement. My house has an alarm system and I have 3 good sized dogs.
So tell me how do those guns endanger you or anyone else?
The answer is that no right is absolute.There is no guaranteed right to life. If there was we could never have capital punishment
Yes but my car was not designed to kill people.if a criminal breaks into your home and steals your car
we are all a little less safe
It's an unenumerated right. It's also included in the Declaration of Independence.There is no right to life in the Bill of Rights
