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The bigotry of Belafonte

Real liberals should condemn the singer's racist attacks on Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell.
By Andrew Sullivan

There are, I think, two kinds of racial smears. There’s the old-fashioned n-word bigotry, the kind that still sadly exists in many places, the kind that hovers in far milder forms in the psyches of many of us. Yes, you too, dear Salon reader. And then there’s the second kind of smear, the notion that someone who has a different politics than many others of his or her race is somehow a traitor, a self-hater, an Uncle Tom.

Both, it seems to me, are functions of bigotry. Why? Because the essence of bigotry is to reduce the complex, varied, human individuality of a human being into a racial cipher. It is to smelt the irreducible complexity of a person into a racial caricature. It is to deny individuality; it is to give someone no space to think for him or herself, to free to be a person, and not a mere member of the group.

To me, this freedom is an irreducible core of what liberalism should be. It is about a person’s right to think for herself with dignity and respect. It doesn’t mean that you can’t disagree vehemently with such a person, subject her views to withering scrutiny, rhetorical barbs or logical dissection. What it does mean is that you do not play the race card or any other card when engaging that person’s views. And one of the key signs that much of today’s left is actually, demonstrably illiberal, intolerant and reactionary, is the way in which this is now a common feature of leftist discourse.

When a black public person like Harry Belafonte calls another African-American a slave to white masters, you see what I mean. When defenders of feminism call someone who files a sexual harassment lawsuit “trailer-trash,” you get the picture. When a gay man can write a column asserting that another man is a “nasty faggot,” it’s hard to think of how much lower the discourse can get. When liberals denigrate the president as a “boy” or as a “sissy,” to quote Maureen Dowd, homophobia doesn’t lurk far behind.

I remember a brief interaction I had with one Barbra Streisand long, long ago when the Paula Jones suit had just been filed. I asked Ms. Streisand what she thought of the suit. “Oh, she’s just a little kurva,” she replied, referring to Jones. That’s a yiddish expression for “whore.” Charming.



Again, the simple test here is the following: If a conservative had used these expressions, would it have been denounced by liberals? The answer, obviously, is yes. Imagine if George Will had called Colin Powell a “house slave.” Imagine if Pat Buchanan had called Barney Frank a “nasty faggot.” Imagine if Trent Lott had called Hillary Clinton a whore. Do you think they’d be invited on “Larry King Live” to further elaborate on their comments?

Very, very few liberals call such expressions what they are any more: bigotry. Left-wing homophobia is now having a resurgence — in Democratic ad campaigns and political discourse. Left-wing racism is now so common it scarcely bears mentioning. “Stupid White Men,” anyone? Left-wing misogyny directed at women who dare to differ from certain political positions is endemic. Left-wing anti-Semitism can be found on campuses across the country. At anti-war rallies, copies of the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” are openly sold. All these unsightly trends exist on the right as well, of course. But who on the right has said anything recently as offensive on racial matters as Belafonte, in his remarks about Colin Powell?

Here’s what Belafonte said: “In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and there were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master.” He added: “Colin Powell’s permitted to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture.”

This is nothing compared to the racist expletives directed at someone like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. But this attempt to reduce Colin Powell, an accomplished soldier and respected diplomat who wields more influence than any African-American in history, to a crude caricature of a racial stereotype should be called what it is. It’s racism. And what does Belafonte get from peddling in such bigotry? He gets an evening devoted to lionizing him Thursday night by a group that considers itself progressive: the Africare annual dinner. As an extra twist, this demagogue has the power to demand that Condi Rice, the most powerful African-American woman in the history of American government, be disinvited as a condition of his appearance. He likened her to a house slave on “Larry King,” too, but through a not-so-subtle ethnic twist: “If she were a Jew and were doing things that were anti-Semitic and against the best interests of people, that would also stand the same way.”

And unfortunately, the demonization of Condi Rice isn’t restricted to Belafonte. A liberal radio show in Florida is promoting a CD of “humorous” songs by one of its featured performers. The album, which boasts a cover depicting Bush kissing Rice on the cheek, features a song called “Kiss A ****** Good Morning.” The star of the show, by the way, is white. But he’s anti-Bush, plugs books by Paul Begala and Molly Ivins, so he can’t be a racist.

Some argue that Belafonte, because he is black, also cannot be a racist. But that is, of course, a racist argument. Again, it reduces someone’s moral responsibility and intellectual autonomy to a racial stereotype — that all blacks are innocent victims who cannot be held responsible for their beliefs or arguments; or that all blacks are so oppressed that any bigotry they utter is permissible. Again, this simply robs blacks of their individuality. In Belafonte’s case, it’s simply bizarre. He is an extremely empowered man. He is also a bigot.

The question to be asked of the left is therefore a simple one: Are you in favor of bigotry or against it? If you’re against it, how can you not criticize and, indeed, ostracize a bigot like Belafonte?
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My grandmother said carzier shit the older she got. Harry doesn't have as long as he used to so got to get it out now.
 
Belefonte is just what most of the blacks are anti everything not of color. He just has a bigger platform to speak from. He just babbles incoherently makes no sense just like our fearless leader and his sidekick Obiden.

And here we have yet another street corner philosopher who claims to know what " most of the blacks think". LMAO!
 
Belafonte is pretty much irrelevent today. much more important are the carelessly racist things that someone like Jamie Fox says day in and day out. when he doesnt get called out, that sets the bar as to how racist blacks can be without expecting any repercussions.
 
Belafonte is pretty much irrelevent today. much more important are the carelessly racist things that someone like Jamie Fox says day in and day out. when he doesnt get called out, that sets the bar as to how racist blacks can be without expecting any repercussions.

Jamie Foxx is an actor and a comedian and if he is taken seriously by anyone who may think that he "sets the bar" for the black population in any way is mistaken.

On the other hand, if he was on talk radio daily and making inflammatory statements like Rush Limbaugh, and like him was embraced by many as "the voice" of a political party, then he could be considered dangerous.
 
It is inappropriate to take what Belafonte said to Powell out of context. I watched it as it occurred.

Belafonte was objecting to Powell being used to tell the UN that Saddam Hussein had yellowcake and could begin making nukes, as well as moving around WMD in the Iraqi desert.

Powell was a large part of lying us into the Iraq War. Everything he testified to at the UN was false. He WAS doing the bidding of his white masters by not looking too closely at what he was saying before he said it.

It was Powell's pristine reputation and credibility on the line - and the world was misled by what Powell said. Not to further his own ends, but to enrich his white master: Dick Cheney.

Just as a house slave should do.

What Belafonte said had rich meaning and deep truth that has lasted and will last as a testament to demanding the best of our best and nothing less. Standards are NOT lower for blacks, and Belafonte was illustrating how far Powell had fallen. Powell should have not allowed himself to be rushed into testifying, should have researched the facts carefully, and should have resigned in protest rather than lie the country he obviously loves into war.

Liberals must not be shallow as conservatives are, and must not judge the truth of a situation without all the facts. Once they are ascertained, liberals should let 'em have it....sparing none. No one gets a free pass because of gender or skin color when they fug it up.

We get accused of allowing blacks to take the place of more qualified whites. We get accused unjustly. Liberals are very hard on liberals when it is called for. Liberals don't lie on behalf of liberals just because they are liberal. Conservatives do that for their own, not us.

There is nothing wrong with a liberal black civil rights icon calling a renowned black military leader on the carpet for failure. Calling him out on it in no uncertain terms. Because there was so much at stake.

Over 4,000 dead young American men and women later, it is clear that Harry was justified and Colin and Condi were not.

History has ruled on the merits of what was said.

Regards from Rosie
 
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Limbaugh is a white Conservative entertainer that talks about politics. Foxx is a Liberal black entertainer that talks about politics. Foxx gets a pass because he says things the Liberal media want to hear. Limbaugh gets bashed because he got himself addicted to pain pills.
Jamie Foxx’s business associate, Warren Braithwaite, was busted in June of 2011 by Arizona authorities for allegedly running a major drug ring, dubbed by the DEA as Operation Special Delivery. Has there been any "investigative journalism" delving into the possible involvement of Foxx? Not that I can find.
 
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Harry Belafoney is a classic example of what happens to an idealogue activist who never grows up, but remains stunted in their glory years. They turn inward to recapture their glory days and remain relevant, and then end up corrupt to the core in their failure.

Did you ever wonder why we don't see more of Bill Cosby and what he thinks? It's because Cosby speaks about work ethic and doesn't point a finger of blame at skin color. Racism is big business for the leftist whores like Belafoney.
 
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Limbaugh is a white Conservative entertainer that talks about politics. Foxx is a Liberal black entertainer that talks about politics.

Limbaugh is a white conservative talk show host who has a broad listening audience who support his political ideology.

Foxx is a comedian and actor whose comedy is exactly that........comedy.

However, in the minds of the paranoid and misinformed, his "comedy", is assumed and interpreted to be code for some "leftist" racist, conspiracy to "victimize" the white population".

Foxx gets a pass because he says things the Liberal media want to hear. Limbaugh gets bashed because he got himself addicted to pain pills.

And Limbaugh is a drug user, who frequently is critical of the morality of others, and cannot maintain a stable relationship himself.

The operative words here are "got HIMSELF addicted". And he also gets a "pass" because he has been referred to as "the de facto leader of the right".
He is not a victim.

Jamie Foxx’s business associate, Warren Braithwaite, was busted in June of 2011 by Arizona authorities for allegedly running a major drug ring, dubbed by the DEA as Operation Special Delivery. Has there been any "investigative journalism" delving into the possible involvement of Foxx? Not that I can find.

So because ones "business manager" is guilty of distributing narcotics, this means that his employer is also guilty by default?..........ok.
 
Belafonte is pretty much irrelevent today. much more important are the carelessly racist things that someone like Jamie Fox says day in and day out. when he doesnt get called out, that sets the bar as to how racist blacks can be without expecting any repercussions.

Jamie Foxx is an actor and a comedian and if he is taken seriously by anyone who may think that he "sets the bar" for the black population in any way is mistaken.

On the other hand, if he was on talk radio daily and making inflammatory statements like Rush Limbaugh, and like him was embraced by many as "the voice" of a political party, then he could be considered dangerous.

Excellent post. Makes total sense.:thup:
 
It is inappropriate to take what Belafonte said to Powell out of context. I watched it as it occurred.

Belafonte was objecting to Powell being used to tell the UN that Saddam Hussein had yellowcake and could begin making nukes, as well as moving around WMD in the Iraqi desert.

Powell was a large part of lying us into the Iraq War. Everything he testified to at the UN was false. He WAS doing the bidding of his white masters by not looking too closely at what he was saying before he said it.

It was Powell's pristine reputation and credibility on the line - and the world was misled by what Powell said. Not to further his own ends, but to enrich his white master: Dick Cheney.

Just as a house slave should do.

What Belafonte said had rich meaning and deep truth that has lasted and will last as a testament to demanding the best of our best and nothing less. Standards are NOT lower for blacks, and Belafonte was illustrating how far Powell had fallen. Powell should have not allowed himself to be rushed into testifying, should have researched the facts carefully, and should have resigned in protest rather than lie the country he obviously loves into war.

Liberals must not be shallow as conservatives are, and must not judge the truth of a situation without all the facts. Once they are ascertained, liberals should let 'em have it....sparing none. No one gets a free pass because of gender or skin color when they fug it up.

We get accused of allowing blacks to take the place of more qualified whites. We get accused unjustly. Liberals are very hard on liberals when it is called for. Liberals don't lie on behalf of liberals just because they are liberal. Conservatives do that for their own, not us.

There is nothing wrong with a liberal black civil rights icon calling a renowned black military leader on the carpet for failure. Calling him out on it in no uncertain terms. Because there was so much at stake.

Over 4,000 dead young American men and women later, it is clear that Harry was justified and Colin and Condi were not.

History has ruled on the merits of what was said.

Regards from Rosie

Why did you say Belafonte called Powell a "house ******" again? Because of his testimony to the United Nations?

Note the dates.

Friday, Oct 25, 2002 05:03 PM CDT
The bigotry of Belafonte
Real liberals should condemn the singer's racist attacks on Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell.
By Andrew Sullivan


The bigotry of Belafonte - Salon.com


Secretary Powell addressing the Security Council
5 February 2003 – Armed with satellite images, transcripts of intercepted telephone conversations and other intelligence data, United States Secretary of State Colin Powell today presented the United Nations Security Council with what he called "solid" evidence that showed Iraq still has not complied with resolutions calling for it to disarm.


Powell presents US case to Security Council of Iraq's failure to disarm



Have a nice day.:eusa_angel:
 
Your point, TD? You missed mine, altogether.

And Belafonte was correct in that Powell was turned out of the house. Belefonte said he would be and Powell has precious few conservative friends. Condi is rather obscure, too. Why is that, and why are they not honored by their own?

Read again what Harry said to get the point.

Regards from Rosie
 
Your point, TD? You missed mine, altogether.

And Belafonte was correct in that Powell was turned out of the house. Belefonte said he would be and Powell has precious few conservative friends. Condi is rather obscure, too. Why is that, and why are they not honored by their own?

Read again what Harry said to get the point.

Regards from Rosie

Colin Powell was never turned out. It was rumored that Andy Card asked for him to resign. But that's bogus. There's no proof of that whatsoever.

Powell has chosen to leave Conservatives behind. And that's fine. But this is his choice. He is moderate after all. And despite Powell siding with Obama many many conservatives have repeatedly praised this great man for his service.

Condi Rice is nothing short of adored from conservatives to moderates in the Republican Party.

Her life is a fabulous story. I greatly admire her. And I'm a conservative. She continues to hold great sway within the party.

Hell's bells Ann Romney was pushing to try to get Condi to sign on a VP. It's Ms. Rice's choice not to run in any elections.

Everyone would love her to.

To try to even imply that Powell and Rice were "turned out" is pathetically laughable.

And this statement of yours is ludicrous.

It was Powell's pristine reputation and credibility on the line - and the world was misled by what Powell said. Not to further his own ends, but to enrich his white master: Dick Cheney.
 
Belafonte is pretty much irrelevent today. much more important are the carelessly racist things that someone like Jamie Fox says day in and day out. when he doesnt get called out, that sets the bar as to how racist blacks can be without expecting any repercussions.

Jamie Foxx is an actor and a comedian and if he is taken seriously by anyone who may think that he "sets the bar" for the black population in any way is mistaken.

On the other hand, if he was on talk radio daily and making inflammatory statements like Rush Limbaugh, and like him was embraced by many as "the voice" of a political party, then he could be considered dangerous.

Excellent post. Makes total sense.:thup:

Thank you Esmerelda. But this one seemed like a no-brainer to me.
 
Your point, TD? You missed mine, altogether.

And Belafonte was correct in that Powell was turned out of the house. Belefonte said he would be and Powell has precious few conservative friends. Condi is rather obscure, too. Why is that, and why are they not honored by their own?

Read again what Harry said to get the point.

Regards from Rosie

Colin Powell was never turned out. It was rumored that Andy Card asked for him to resign. But that's bogus. There's no proof of that whatsoever.

Powell has chosen to leave Conservatives behind. And that's fine. But this is his choice. He is moderate after all. And despite Powell siding with Obama many many conservatives have repeatedly praised this great man for his service.

Condi Rice is nothing short of adored from conservatives to moderates in the Republican Party.

Her life is a fabulous story. I greatly admire her. And I'm a conservative. She continues to hold great sway within the party.

Hell's bells Ann Romney was pushing to try to get Condi to sign on a VP. It's Ms. Rice's choice not to run in any elections.

Everyone would love her to.

To try to even imply that Powell and Rice were "turned out" is pathetically laughable.

And this statement of yours is ludicrous.

It was Powell's pristine reputation and credibility on the line - and the world was misled by what Powell said. Not to further his own ends, but to enrich his white master: Dick Cheney.

Why WOULD Condi Rice stay in public service? What has public service done for Condi Rice? She was used to push Powell out of the house and served the master in his stead. Now she is retired.

$7.50 and her revered Republican status will get Ms. Rice a Starbucks.

I can't think of a prominent African-American still working with or for the party. Michael Steele, anyone? Steele was used as a Kleenex, then crumpled and thrown out.

And you all question why black America votes Dem?

As for Dick Cheney: as the former CEO of Halliburton with its subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root getting no-bid defense contracts in Iraq, those stock options Cheney has made him very wealthy indeed. He can thank Powell for that.

And Powell got the bum's rush. Michael Steele shoulda seen THAT coming for himself a mile away, too.

Regards from Rosie
 
Your point, TD? You missed mine, altogether.

And Belafonte was correct in that Powell was turned out of the house. Belefonte said he would be and Powell has precious few conservative friends. Condi is rather obscure, too. Why is that, and why are they not honored by their own?

Read again what Harry said to get the point.

Regards from Rosie

Colin Powell was never turned out. It was rumored that Andy Card asked for him to resign. But that's bogus. There's no proof of that whatsoever.

Powell has chosen to leave Conservatives behind. And that's fine. But this is his choice. He is moderate after all. And despite Powell siding with Obama many many conservatives have repeatedly praised this great man for his service.

Condi Rice is nothing short of adored from conservatives to moderates in the Republican Party.

Her life is a fabulous story. I greatly admire her. And I'm a conservative. She continues to hold great sway within the party.

Hell's bells Ann Romney was pushing to try to get Condi to sign on a VP. It's Ms. Rice's choice not to run in any elections.

Everyone would love her to.

To try to even imply that Powell and Rice were "turned out" is pathetically laughable.

And this statement of yours is ludicrous.

It was Powell's pristine reputation and credibility on the line - and the world was misled by what Powell said. Not to further his own ends, but to enrich his white master: Dick Cheney.

Why WOULD Condi Rice stay in public service? What has public service done for Condi Rice? She was used to push Powell out of the house and served the master in his stead. Now she is retired.

$7.50 and her revered Republican status will get Ms. Rice a Starbucks.

I can't think of a prominent African-American still working with or for the party. Michael Steele, anyone? Steele was used as a Kleenex, then crumpled and thrown out.

And you all question why black America votes Dem?

As for Dick Cheney: as the former CEO of Halliburton with its subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root getting no-bid defense contracts in Iraq, those stock options Cheney has made him very wealthy indeed. He can thank Powell for that.

And Powell got the bum's rush. Michael Steele shoulda seen THAT coming for himself a mile away, too.

Regards from Rosie

You're opinions are not substantiated by facts.

By the way Condi was the star speaker at many fund raising events for Romney. Everyone loves her.

Now on to Cheney. With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I'm trying to put this nicely. You're full of shit. :eusa_angel:

Stock Options

That still would leave the possibility that Cheney could profit from his Halliburton stock options if the company's stock rises in value. However, Cheney and his wife Lynne have assigned any future profits from their stock options in Halliburton and several other companies to charity.

And we're not just taking the Cheney's word for this -- we asked for a copy of the legal agreement they signed, which we post here publicly for the first time.

The "Gift Trust Agreement" the Cheney's signed two days before he took office turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities.

The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education, a charity that provides financial aid for low-income students in Washington, DC to attend private and religious schools.

The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," so the Cheney's can't take back their options later.

The options owned by the Cheney's have been valued at nearly $8 million, his attorney says. Such valuations are rough estimates only -- the actual value will depend on what happens to stock prices in the future, which of course can't be known beforehand.

But it is clear that giving up rights to the future profits constitutes a significant financial sacrifice, and a sizable donation to the chosen charities.


FactCheck.org: Kerry Ad Falsely Accuses Cheney on Halliburton
 
Now I don't want to derail the Belafonte thread, but just an FYI Brown & Root launched LBJ into mega political status.

You know, LBJ, the Democrat President?

The story of Halliburton's ties to the White House dates back to the 1940s, when a Texas firm called Brown & Root constructed a massive dam project near Austin. The company's founders, Herman and George Brown, won the contract to build Mansfield Dam thanks to the efforts of Johnson, who was then a Texas congressman.

After Johnson took over the Oval Office, Brown & Root won contracts for huge construction projects for the federal government. By the mid-1960s, newspaper columnists and the Republican minority in Congress began to suggest that the company's good luck was tied to its sizable contributions to Johnson's political campaign.

More questions were raised when a consortium of which Brown & Root was a part won a $380 million contract to build airports, bases, hospitals and other facilities for the U.S. Navy in South Vietnam. By 1967, the General Accounting Office had faulted the "Vietnam builders" — as they were known — for massive accounting lapses and allowing thefts of materials.


Rest at link:

Halliburton Deals Recall Vietnam-Era Controversy : NPR
 
Colin Powell was never turned out. It was rumored that Andy Card asked for him to resign. But that's bogus. There's no proof of that whatsoever.

Powell has chosen to leave Conservatives behind. And that's fine. But this is his choice. He is moderate after all. And despite Powell siding with Obama many many conservatives have repeatedly praised this great man for his service.

Condi Rice is nothing short of adored from conservatives to moderates in the Republican Party.

Her life is a fabulous story. I greatly admire her. And I'm a conservative. She continues to hold great sway within the party.

Hell's bells Ann Romney was pushing to try to get Condi to sign on a VP. It's Ms. Rice's choice not to run in any elections.

Everyone would love her to.

To try to even imply that Powell and Rice were "turned out" is pathetically laughable.

And this statement of yours is ludicrous.

It was Powell's pristine reputation and credibility on the line - and the world was misled by what Powell said. Not to further his own ends, but to enrich his white master: Dick Cheney.

Why WOULD Condi Rice stay in public service? What has public service done for Condi Rice? She was used to push Powell out of the house and served the master in his stead. Now she is retired.

$7.50 and her revered Republican status will get Ms. Rice a Starbucks.

I can't think of a prominent African-American still working with or for the party. Michael Steele, anyone? Steele was used as a Kleenex, then crumpled and thrown out.

And you all question why black America votes Dem?

As for Dick Cheney: as the former CEO of Halliburton with its subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root getting no-bid defense contracts in Iraq, those stock options Cheney has made him very wealthy indeed. He can thank Powell for that.

And Powell got the bum's rush. Michael Steele shoulda seen THAT coming for himself a mile away, too.

Regards from Rosie

You're opinions are not substantiated by facts.

By the way Condi was the star speaker at many fund raising events for Romney. Everyone loves her.

Now on to Cheney. With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I'm trying to put this nicely. You're full of shit. :eusa_angel:

Stock Options

That still would leave the possibility that Cheney could profit from his Halliburton stock options if the company's stock rises in value. However, Cheney and his wife Lynne have assigned any future profits from their stock options in Halliburton and several other companies to charity.

And we're not just taking the Cheney's word for this -- we asked for a copy of the legal agreement they signed, which we post here publicly for the first time.

The "Gift Trust Agreement" the Cheney's signed two days before he took office turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities.

The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education, a charity that provides financial aid for low-income students in Washington, DC to attend private and religious schools.

The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," so the Cheney's can't take back their options later.

The options owned by the Cheney's have been valued at nearly $8 million, his attorney says. Such valuations are rough estimates only -- the actual value will depend on what happens to stock prices in the future, which of course can't be known beforehand.

But it is clear that giving up rights to the future profits constitutes a significant financial sacrifice, and a sizable donation to the chosen charities.


FactCheck.org: Kerry Ad Falsely Accuses Cheney on Halliburton

And you are being duplicitous. Did I not mention KBR? Of course I did. And Cheney had offshore accounts set up for subsidiaries during his tenure:

Halliburton, Dick Cheney, and Wartime Spoils

Between deferred compensation and offshore accounts it cannot be known how much the Cheneys have profited from war contracting.

If the IRS cannot know, what gives you the gall to state that you do?

Regards from Rosie
 
Why WOULD Condi Rice stay in public service? What has public service done for Condi Rice? She was used to push Powell out of the house and served the master in his stead. Now she is retired.

$7.50 and her revered Republican status will get Ms. Rice a Starbucks.

I can't think of a prominent African-American still working with or for the party. Michael Steele, anyone? Steele was used as a Kleenex, then crumpled and thrown out.

And you all question why black America votes Dem?

As for Dick Cheney: as the former CEO of Halliburton with its subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root getting no-bid defense contracts in Iraq, those stock options Cheney has made him very wealthy indeed. He can thank Powell for that.

And Powell got the bum's rush. Michael Steele shoulda seen THAT coming for himself a mile away, too.

Regards from Rosie

You're opinions are not substantiated by facts.

By the way Condi was the star speaker at many fund raising events for Romney. Everyone loves her.

Now on to Cheney. With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I'm trying to put this nicely. You're full of shit. :eusa_angel:

Stock Options

That still would leave the possibility that Cheney could profit from his Halliburton stock options if the company's stock rises in value. However, Cheney and his wife Lynne have assigned any future profits from their stock options in Halliburton and several other companies to charity.

And we're not just taking the Cheney's word for this -- we asked for a copy of the legal agreement they signed, which we post here publicly for the first time.

The "Gift Trust Agreement" the Cheney's signed two days before he took office turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities.

The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education, a charity that provides financial aid for low-income students in Washington, DC to attend private and religious schools.

The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," so the Cheney's can't take back their options later.

The options owned by the Cheney's have been valued at nearly $8 million, his attorney says. Such valuations are rough estimates only -- the actual value will depend on what happens to stock prices in the future, which of course can't be known beforehand.

But it is clear that giving up rights to the future profits constitutes a significant financial sacrifice, and a sizable donation to the chosen charities.


FactCheck.org: Kerry Ad Falsely Accuses Cheney on Halliburton

And you are being duplicitous. Did I not mention KBR? Of course I did. And Cheney had offshore accounts set up for subsidiaries during his tenure:

Halliburton, Dick Cheney, and Wartime Spoils

Between deferred compensation and offshore accounts it cannot be known how much the Cheneys have profited from war contracting.

If the IRS cannot know, what gives you the gall to state that you do?

Regards from Rosie

Yes you mentioned KBR but in regards to Cheney. Not to a Democrat President.

Now the link you gave is a blog with a "conspiracy theory".

I gave you National Public Radio who along with every other media outlet was desperate to tie Cheney to $$$ from Haliburton and the war. I gave you FactCheck.

They concluded he didn't. No one has ever proved your assertion.

On the other hand, guess who has made money off the war and kept it? Soros. Not a conspiracy theory. Truth.

And my link is Reuters. So how many Democrats and liberal organizations that receive donations from Soros are profiting from the Iraq war?

Including President Obama.

Something to think about when you're trying to smear Cheney.

Soros bought CVS, Rite Aid, Halliburton in Q4

WASHINGTON | Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:36pm EST

Feb 14 (Reuters) - Billionaire investor George Soros said on Wednesday he bought 2.1 million shares of CVS Corp (CVS.N) and 1 million shares of Rite Aide (RAD.N) in the fourth quarter of 2006.

Soros also added 1.9 million shares of Halliburton (HAL.N) and 1 million shares of Take-Two Interactive Software (TTWO.O) to his portfolio during the quarter.


Soros bought CVS, Rite Aid, Halliburton in Q4 | Reuters
 
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