Here's the thing about CharlottesvilleIt

[Toddsterpatriot]

Really the same difference, socialism was the very name of Hitler's party. He acted far more left than anything else.

That you think there's little difference between socialism and fascism only serves to expose your ignorance.

Just as pointing to "socialist" being what Nazi's called themselves as evidence they were socialist does.

They were socialist like North Korea is Democratic.

They were socialist like North Korea is Democratic.

Yeah, those Nazis were all about small government, low taxes and freedom, eh comrade?

Did I say they were like modern American Libertarians? And does that mean they weren't fascists?

Did I say they were like modern American Libertarians?

No.
Nazis, Commies, Fascists, Socialists are all big government, left wingers....the opposite of American Libertarians.

Idiot. I didn't say you did. <smh>

I corrected your omission.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

wrong!


The Myth: Adolf Hitler, starter of World War 2 in Europe and driving force behind the Holocaust, was a socialist.

The Truth: Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.

Hitler as Conservative Weapon
Twenty-first-century commentators like to attack left leaning policies by calling them socialist, and occasionally follow this up by explaining how Hitler, the mass murdering dictator around whom the twentieth century pivoted, was a socialist himself.


There’s no way anyone can, or ever should, defend Hitler, and so things like health-care reform are equated with something terrible, a Nazi regime which sought to conquer an empire and commit several genocides. The problem is, this is a distortion of history.

----------

Hitler as the Scourge of Socialism
Richard Evans, in his magisterial three volume history of Nazi Germany, is quite clear on whether Hitler was a socialist: “…it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism.” (The Coming of the Third Reich, Evans, p. 173). Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part to enslave the population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’.




The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create. Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it.


Socialism, in contrast, was a class struggle, aiming to build a workers state, whatever race the worker was from. Nazism drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class focused socialism, as well as Judaism and other ideas deemed non-German.

When Hitler came to power he attempted to dismantle trade unions and the shell that remained loyal to him; he supported the actions of leading industrialists, actions far removed from socialism which tends to want the opposite. Hitler used the fear of socialism and communism as a way of terrifying middle and upper-class Germans into supporting him. Workers were targeted with slightly different propaganda, but these were promises simply to earn support, to get into power, and then to remake the workers along with everyone else into a racial state. There was to be no dictatorship of the proletariat as in socialism; there was just to be the dictatorship of the Fuhrer.

MUCH MORE TO READ HERE!
Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? Debunking a Historical Myth

I'm sorry sister, copy/paste bullshit drivel does not an argument make.

Oh! You found an article that alludes to the opposite. Too bad it's not true and factual, and is full of fallacies.

it's not AN article, near ALL ARTICLES written about the time by historians all say the same thing, it is YOU and the other revisionists trying to rewrite history for some sort of convoluted political point....Nazism hated socialism and communism!

Hated socialism? The Nazis vied to control every facet of society. Tell me again how that's not socialism?

LOL, yet THE NAZIS ALLIED WITH THE COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION. LMFAO.
COMMIE LIBS CAN'T EVEN GET THEIR OWN PROPAGANDA RIGHT

Idiot. The Nazi's invaded the Soviet Union.

Talk about a win-win.

 

[Boss]

The era the statues were erected were not to commemorate the South's best Traitors to the United States of America...they were put up to intimidate black people during the Jim Crow era, where black people were kept from voting and new laws were created to imprison them, and laws written to take the right to vote away from prisoners who always had the right to vote in prison before the civil war if white.... and segregation etc etc etc

That's your viewpoint and that's FINE! I have NO objection to your viewpoint. I don't necessarily agree with you but I respect your right to express your viewpoint. The thing is, YOU haven't been put in charge of deciding these issues for all! YOU don't get to write yourself a pass to violate the First Amendment because you don't like something.

What's wrong with letting the COMMUNITY decide and you keeping your fucking virtue-signalling nose out of it? It's ironic that YOU are being the FASCIST here! You want to use your iron fist to demand society conform to your demands... Mussolini couldn't be more proud!

The community DID decide...the the so-called " Unite the Right" thugs showed up.

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As is their right under the First Amendment! I'm sorry you don't like them or what they had to say, I don't like a lot of left-wing radical groups but they have the Constitutional right to free speech in this country.

In Charlottesville, the "community" did not decide. The city council decided for them. Like I said, you can make the argument that in a representative government system that's the same thing, and that's fine... I concede that point, especially if the city council held open meetings where those opposed could express their viewpoints. But this doesn't suspend the right to peacefully protest! Even if the community decides and I am okay with the community deciding... others STILL have their Constitutional right to protest.

What they DON'T have, is the right to pick up a baseball bat and attack others or throw acid on people who they disagree with. Violent acts are not a part of free speech... not from the right, left, radical, centrist or ANYONE! Free speech must be protected, violence must be condemned. But what the left seems to be whining about is the right not condoning groups like Antifa coming in to start shit with the others. You seem to want to willingly justify their violence by pointing to the thuggish nature of their opponents.

 

[Care4all]

Nazis were socialist, you Commie fuck. It's no secret you're a shill here.

They didn't allow very much private business.

Government controlled everything. The schools, business, you could get killed for listening to non-Nazi radio. Fuck right the hell off.

Right down to automobile manufacturing. Never heard of Volksvagen? Your theory=

wrong!


The Myth: Adolf Hitler, starter of World War 2 in Europe and driving force behind the Holocaust, was a socialist.

The Truth: Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.

Hitler as Conservative Weapon
Twenty-first-century commentators like to attack left leaning policies by calling them socialist, and occasionally follow this up by explaining how Hitler, the mass murdering dictator around whom the twentieth century pivoted, was a socialist himself.


There’s no way anyone can, or ever should, defend Hitler, and so things like health-care reform are equated with something terrible, a Nazi regime which sought to conquer an empire and commit several genocides. The problem is, this is a distortion of history.

----------

Hitler as the Scourge of Socialism
Richard Evans, in his magisterial three volume history of Nazi Germany, is quite clear on whether Hitler was a socialist: “…it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism.” (The Coming of the Third Reich, Evans, p. 173). Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part to enslave the population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’.




The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create. Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it.


Socialism, in contrast, was a class struggle, aiming to build a workers state, whatever race the worker was from. Nazism drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class focused socialism, as well as Judaism and other ideas deemed non-German.

When Hitler came to power he attempted to dismantle trade unions and the shell that remained loyal to him; he supported the actions of leading industrialists, actions far removed from socialism which tends to want the opposite. Hitler used the fear of socialism and communism as a way of terrifying middle and upper-class Germans into supporting him. Workers were targeted with slightly different propaganda, but these were promises simply to earn support, to get into power, and then to remake the workers along with everyone else into a racial state. There was to be no dictatorship of the proletariat as in socialism; there was just to be the dictatorship of the Fuhrer.

MUCH MORE TO READ HERE!
Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? Debunking a Historical Myth

I'm sorry sister, copy/paste bullshit drivel does not an argument make.

Oh! You found an article that alludes to the opposite. Too bad it's not true and factual, and is full of fallacies.

it's not AN article, near ALL ARTICLES written about the time by historians all say the same thing, it is YOU and the other revisionists trying to rewrite history for some sort of convoluted political point....Nazism hated socialism and communism!

Hated socialism? The Nazis vied to control every facet of society. Tell me again how that's not socialism?

LOL, yet THE NAZIS ALLIED WITH THE COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION. LMFAO.
COMMIE LIBS CAN'T EVEN GET THEIR OWN PROPAGANDA RIGHT

HUH?
The Soviets were part of the Allied Nations, joined in 1941, same year as the USA.

The Nazis were Axis powers, with Italy and Japan

 

[Reasonable]

I'm sorry but TelePrompTer Trump is no more believable than Twitter trump.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

wrong!


The Myth: Adolf Hitler, starter of World War 2 in Europe and driving force behind the Holocaust, was a socialist.

The Truth: Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.

Hitler as Conservative Weapon
Twenty-first-century commentators like to attack left leaning policies by calling them socialist, and occasionally follow this up by explaining how Hitler, the mass murdering dictator around whom the twentieth century pivoted, was a socialist himself.


There’s no way anyone can, or ever should, defend Hitler, and so things like health-care reform are equated with something terrible, a Nazi regime which sought to conquer an empire and commit several genocides. The problem is, this is a distortion of history.

----------

Hitler as the Scourge of Socialism
Richard Evans, in his magisterial three volume history of Nazi Germany, is quite clear on whether Hitler was a socialist: “…it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism.” (The Coming of the Third Reich, Evans, p. 173). Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part to enslave the population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’.




The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create. Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it.


Socialism, in contrast, was a class struggle, aiming to build a workers state, whatever race the worker was from. Nazism drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class focused socialism, as well as Judaism and other ideas deemed non-German.

When Hitler came to power he attempted to dismantle trade unions and the shell that remained loyal to him; he supported the actions of leading industrialists, actions far removed from socialism which tends to want the opposite. Hitler used the fear of socialism and communism as a way of terrifying middle and upper-class Germans into supporting him. Workers were targeted with slightly different propaganda, but these were promises simply to earn support, to get into power, and then to remake the workers along with everyone else into a racial state. There was to be no dictatorship of the proletariat as in socialism; there was just to be the dictatorship of the Fuhrer.

MUCH MORE TO READ HERE!
Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? Debunking a Historical Myth

I'm sorry sister, copy/paste bullshit drivel does not an argument make.

Oh! You found an article that alludes to the opposite. Too bad it's not true and factual, and is full of fallacies.

it's not AN article, near ALL ARTICLES written about the time by historians all say the same thing, it is YOU and the other revisionists trying to rewrite history for some sort of convoluted political point....Nazism hated socialism and communism!

Hated socialism? The Nazis vied to control every facet of society. Tell me again how that's not socialism?

LOL, yet THE NAZIS ALLIED WITH THE COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION. LMFAO.
COMMIE LIBS CAN'T EVEN GET THEIR OWN PROPAGANDA RIGHT

HUH?
The Soviets were part of the Allied Nations, joined in 1941, same year as the USA.

The Nazis were Axis powers, with Italy and Japan

The Soviets were part of the Allied Nations, joined in 1941,

1941? Isn't that after they divided up Poland with Germany in September 1939?

 

[Boss]

Well.... The President is now into double-digits, the number of times he has categorically denounced and repudiated white supremacists, neo-nazis, racism and bigotry in all it's forms. He has specified groups and individuals. He has condemned violence from all sides and called repeatedly for unity. He has done it in prepared statements, impromptu speeches at press conferences, twitter tweets, interviews and rallies.

STILL--- The Left-wing radical media is running with the narrative that he is a racist who supports these groups.

Now really... there isn't much else the man can do. He is obviously never going to satisfy the left-wing detractors. They are committed to keeping on with this because the Russian collusion narrative has fizzled out and they really have nothing else in their arsenal.

 

[Correll]

These groups make up just 0.0003% of the population. Why give hate a voice?

Because there was a time when Nazi's made up only 0.0003% of the population in Germany and the advantage of hindsight teaches us what happens if you let it grow.

The neo nazis here in America have been pathetically small and weak for longer than the Nazi Party existed in Germany.


They have no message, no base, no support in the mainstream society, nothing.


Ignore them to death.

You're as free to ignore them as others are free to not ignore them.

The long history of barely hanging on, even as a fringe movement, for generations, is not a sign of impending growth.

As you can see, there are those in the U.S. who are determined to not let it grow.

Yep. Long before Antifa started doing their street violence tactic to suppress Free Speech they don't like.


Pretty much ignoring them to death.


Just about the only people talking to them today is the liberal media when then need a quote they can use to smear the media's political enemies.

 

[Correll]

I'm not sure how many times I have to educate your Leftist Bastards on the Fact that Neo Nazis and The KKK do not like Donald Trump. They hate him. Besides that The KKK and ANTIFA are playing on the same team, one is Communist, and the other is Fascist, and you have to be an uninformed idiot to not know this.

Another Quote from The KKK HBO INTERVIEW:

"I don't think you could feel about race like I do and stand to watch that Kushner Bastard walk around with that Beautiful Girl."

Liar....

The ONE tactic they have to try to create the illusion that they matter, to those who might be potential recruits,

is to gloam onto something or someone who does matter, to steal some of it or their legitimacy.


Thus you see nazis talking nice about a man with Jews in his family.

They are working with the liberal media.

Both of them have interests that coincide.


BOth of them want to create the illusion of a far larger and more powerful neo nazi movement.

Both of them want to creat an illusion of a connection between the sad pathetic fringe and the vastly larger and powerful republican/conservative/trump movement(s).




You liberals are the only ally these guys have, and if anyone or anything can ever grow them into a real force.


it is you.

Only you can do it.

What utter nonsense. No one on the left is responsible for the KKK endorsing Trump for president.

I went on to explain the motive that the lib media gives the neo nazis to make such "endorsements".


Do you want to explain your disagreement with that, or were you hoping that your unsupported empty statement would be the end of the discussion?

You made no point. All you did was assert they work together while offering zero corroborating evidence.

I gave their motives and as to evidence?


It is all over the place, including YOUR posting of a kkk paper, not only giving it exposure to everyone on this site, but supporting the myth that they are relevant, and conflating them with everyone who voted for Trump.

 

[Correll]

'Jews will not replace us!' Now that's the way to peacefully protect a statue, no argument. Less than a minute in....

QUOTE FROM YOUR FUCKING VIDEO at 3:43:

NEO NAZI:

"IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, NOT SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"

You fucking liar... you misquoted that piece of shit.

He didn't say, "Not someone like Donald Trump..."

He said, "Somebody like Donald Trump..."

Why did you insert the word, "NOT" in there when the Nazi didn't??

YOu think he said, or meant to say this?


IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, ... SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"



You are claiming that the nazi considers giving your daughter to a jew to be evidence of being "more capable"?



That really does not make sense to me. More likely if he did not say, "not", he meant to.

He said what I quoted, not what The Original Tree misquoted.

Why lie unless the truth is not on your side?

I don't think it was a lie.

In real life, people drop or flip or misuse words sometimes. IN real life, real people, from context pick up on their actual intent. That is what the Original Tree did.

You are a lawyer aren't you? That would explain your not knowing this.

BUT, I pointed out that the phrase, as you heard it, makes absolutely no sense.


UNLESS you believe that this nazis considers "giving your daughter to a jew" as a sign of "more capable".

Which is utterly absurd.

But you will hold to that position because it serves your partisan purpose.

 

[Correll]

QUOTE FROM YOUR FUCKING VIDEO at 3:43:

NEO NAZI:

"IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, NOT SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"

You fucking liar... you misquoted that piece of shit.

He didn't say, "Not someone like Donald Trump..."

He said, "Somebody like Donald Trump..."

Why did you insert the word, "NOT" in there when the Nazi didn't??

YOu think he said, or meant to say this?


IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, ... SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"



You are claiming that the nazi considers giving your daughter to a jew to be evidence of being "more capable"?



That really does not make sense to me. More likely if he did not say, "not", he meant to.

He said what I quoted, not what The Original Tree misquoted.

Why lie unless the truth is not on your side?

I'm not going to listen to a 22 min tape of nazis.

But as I pointed out, in the post you hit the reply button for, the quote makes no sense, if you are correct.


It is far more likely, even if you are correct and that that is what he said, that he meant to say "not".


Why would you hit the reply button and make a point that I already covered in the post you were replying too?


You aren't TRYING to use the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion, are you?

LOLOL

So you're not going to listen to what the guy actually says... but you think you know what he meant.

Errr, two points.

1. You lefties do this all the time, so your laughing is just you revealing that you are a complete hypocrite.

2. YOu did not address my argument at all. YOu were just an ass.

3. Do you believe that that nazis meant to say that "giving your daughter to a jew" is evidence of being "more capable"?

 

[Correll]

White Supremacists are in such insignificant numbers it really doesn't matter…
You Really need to pick a scarier boogie man

Of course it matters to some who are determined to not let happen here what happened in Germany.

Hitlers socialism is what happened to Germany, you're thinking of the wrong side of things.
Socialism is the enemy of individuality and any sort of freedom… Fact

Hitler was far more fascist than socialist.

Really the same difference, socialism was the very name of Hitler's party. He acted far more left than anything else.

NO HE DID NOT act more socialist than fascist! THAT is simply bonkers!

Tell it to the People's Car, or Volkswagen as HItler named it. Created as a government program to make cheap cars for the people.

Pretty socialist to me.

 

[The Original Tree]

Well.... The President is now into double-digits, the number of times he has categorically denounced and repudiated white supremacists, neo-nazis, racism and bigotry in all it's forms. He has specified groups and individuals. He has condemned violence from all sides and called repeatedly for unity. He has done it in prepared statements, impromptu speeches at press conferences, twitter tweets, interviews and rallies.

STILL--- The Left-wing radical media is running with the narrative that he is a racist who supports these groups.

Now really... there isn't much else the man can do. He is obviously never going to satisfy the left-wing detractors. They are committed to keeping on with this because the Russian collusion narrative has fizzled out and they really have nothing else in their arsenal.

The Left does not care about The American People. They used to. Long ago. Maybe Jimmy Carter was the last Democrat who cared. Terrible President and Globalist, but I think he cared. Once the Clintons and Carvelles Came on the scene, Pure Evil was unleashed within the party, and a SCORCHED EARTH policy was put in play.

The Politics of Personal Destruction was launched like a Korean ICBM at the Left's Political Enemies, and they did not care where it landed, or how much damage it did. Now you have today's Political Climate with Lefty inventing smear after smear day after day....and lie after lie....and they know they are lying....know they are deceiving the American People....but they just don't care.

There is only one thing they care about and that is power, forwarding their agenda, and profiting from Public Service.

And they will lie, rape, kill and steal to get what they want and run over anyone that dares cross their path.

 

[The Original Tree]

wrong!


The Myth: Adolf Hitler, starter of World War 2 in Europe and driving force behind the Holocaust, was a socialist.

The Truth: Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.

Hitler as Conservative Weapon
Twenty-first-century commentators like to attack left leaning policies by calling them socialist, and occasionally follow this up by explaining how Hitler, the mass murdering dictator around whom the twentieth century pivoted, was a socialist himself.


There’s no way anyone can, or ever should, defend Hitler, and so things like health-care reform are equated with something terrible, a Nazi regime which sought to conquer an empire and commit several genocides. The problem is, this is a distortion of history.

----------

Hitler as the Scourge of Socialism
Richard Evans, in his magisterial three volume history of Nazi Germany, is quite clear on whether Hitler was a socialist: “…it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism.” (The Coming of the Third Reich, Evans, p. 173). Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part to enslave the population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’.




The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create. Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it.


Socialism, in contrast, was a class struggle, aiming to build a workers state, whatever race the worker was from. Nazism drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class focused socialism, as well as Judaism and other ideas deemed non-German.

When Hitler came to power he attempted to dismantle trade unions and the shell that remained loyal to him; he supported the actions of leading industrialists, actions far removed from socialism which tends to want the opposite. Hitler used the fear of socialism and communism as a way of terrifying middle and upper-class Germans into supporting him. Workers were targeted with slightly different propaganda, but these were promises simply to earn support, to get into power, and then to remake the workers along with everyone else into a racial state. There was to be no dictatorship of the proletariat as in socialism; there was just to be the dictatorship of the Fuhrer.

MUCH MORE TO READ HERE!
Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? Debunking a Historical Myth

I'm sorry sister, copy/paste bullshit drivel does not an argument make.

Oh! You found an article that alludes to the opposite. Too bad it's not true and factual, and is full of fallacies.

it's not AN article, near ALL ARTICLES written about the time by historians all say the same thing, it is YOU and the other revisionists trying to rewrite history for some sort of convoluted political point....Nazism hated socialism and communism!

Hated socialism? The Nazis vied to control every facet of society. Tell me again how that's not socialism?

LOL, yet THE NAZIS ALLIED WITH THE COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION. LMFAO.
COMMIE LIBS CAN'T EVEN GET THEIR OWN PROPAGANDA RIGHT

HUH?
The Soviets were part of the Allied Nations, joined in 1941, same year as the USA.

The Nazis were Axis powers, with Italy and Japan

This is why THE LEFT DOES NOT WANT TO TEACH HISTORY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact - World War II - HISTORY.com

Nazi Fascists & Soviet Communists share the same Totalitarian Roots, so they are able to ally....however Fascism and Communism are different Ideologies, so their Alliances do not often last. They are often rivals and enemies. See LEFTIST NEO NAZIS vs. LEFTIST COMMUNIST ANTIFA.

 

[Correll]

I'm sorry sister, copy/paste bullshit drivel does not an argument make.

Oh! You found an article that alludes to the opposite. Too bad it's not true and factual, and is full of fallacies.

it's not AN article, near ALL ARTICLES written about the time by historians all say the same thing, it is YOU and the other revisionists trying to rewrite history for some sort of convoluted political point....Nazism hated socialism and communism!

Hated socialism? The Nazis vied to control every facet of society. Tell me again how that's not socialism?

LOL, yet THE NAZIS ALLIED WITH THE COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION. LMFAO.
COMMIE LIBS CAN'T EVEN GET THEIR OWN PROPAGANDA RIGHT

HUH?
The Soviets were part of the Allied Nations, joined in 1941, same year as the USA.

The Nazis were Axis powers, with Italy and Japan

This is why THE LEFT DOES NOT WANT TO TEACH HISTORY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact - World War II - HISTORY.com

Nazi Fascists & Soviet Communists share the same Totalitarian Roots, so they are able to ally....however Fascism and Communism are different Ideologies, so their Alliances do not often last. They are often rivals and enemies. See LEFTIST NEO NAZIS vs. LEFTIST COMMUNIST ANTIFA.

 

[Faun]

Because there was a time when Nazi's made up only 0.0003% of the population in Germany and the advantage of hindsight teaches us what happens if you let it grow.

The neo nazis here in America have been pathetically small and weak for longer than the Nazi Party existed in Germany.


They have no message, no base, no support in the mainstream society, nothing.


Ignore them to death.

You're as free to ignore them as others are free to not ignore them.

The long history of barely hanging on, even as a fringe movement, for generations, is not a sign of impending growth.

As you can see, there are those in the U.S. who are determined to not let it grow.

Yep. Long before Antifa started doing their street violence tactic to suppress Free Speech they don't like.


Pretty much ignoring them to death.


Just about the only people talking to them today is the liberal media when then need a quote they can use to smear the media's political enemies.

WTF? Are you claiming conservative media doesn't cover the alt-right?

 

[Faun]

Liar....

The ONE tactic they have to try to create the illusion that they matter, to those who might be potential recruits,

is to gloam onto something or someone who does matter, to steal some of it or their legitimacy.


Thus you see nazis talking nice about a man with Jews in his family.

They are working with the liberal media.

Both of them have interests that coincide.


BOth of them want to create the illusion of a far larger and more powerful neo nazi movement.

Both of them want to creat an illusion of a connection between the sad pathetic fringe and the vastly larger and powerful republican/conservative/trump movement(s).




You liberals are the only ally these guys have, and if anyone or anything can ever grow them into a real force.


it is you.

Only you can do it.

What utter nonsense. No one on the left is responsible for the KKK endorsing Trump for president.

I went on to explain the motive that the lib media gives the neo nazis to make such "endorsements".


Do you want to explain your disagreement with that, or were you hoping that your unsupported empty statement would be the end of the discussion?

You made no point. All you did was assert they work together while offering zero corroborating evidence.

I gave their motives and as to evidence?


It is all over the place, including YOUR posting of a kkk paper, not only giving it exposure to everyone on this site, but supporting the myth that they are relevant, and conflating them with everyone who voted for Trump.

Dumbfuck, the KKK openly endorsing and supporting Trump was news and the news, left, center, and right, covered it as they should have.

 

[Faun]

'Jews will not replace us!' Now that's the way to peacefully protect a statue, no argument. Less than a minute in....

QUOTE FROM YOUR FUCKING VIDEO at 3:43:

NEO NAZI:

"IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, NOT SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"

You fucking liar... you misquoted that piece of shit.

He didn't say, "Not someone like Donald Trump..."

He said, "Somebody like Donald Trump..."

Why did you insert the word, "NOT" in there when the Nazi didn't??

YOu think he said, or meant to say this?


IM HERE TO SPREAD IDEAS, TALK IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE COMES ALONG, ... SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO GAVE HIS DAUGHTER TO A JEW!"



You are claiming that the nazi considers giving your daughter to a jew to be evidence of being "more capable"?



That really does not make sense to me. More likely if he did not say, "not", he meant to.

He said what I quoted, not what The Original Tree misquoted.

Why lie unless the truth is not on your side?

I don't think it was a lie.

In real life, people drop or flip or misuse words sometimes. IN real life, real people, from context pick up on their actual intent. That is what the Original Tree did.

You are a lawyer aren't you? That would explain your not knowing this.

BUT, I pointed out that the phrase, as you heard it, makes absolutely no sense.


UNLESS you believe that this nazis considers "giving your daughter to a jew" as a sign of "more capable".

Which is utterly absurd.

But you will hold to that position because it serves your partisan purpose.

More evidence you're a nut. He misquoted the guy in the video which I showed the actual quote, which is in the video. There's absolutely no question The Original Tree lied. You believe he was telling the truth. because like him, you're a rightwing nut.

 

[The Original Tree]

It should be made clear, that THE NAZI FASCISTS & SOVIET COMMUNISTS made a Secret Pact together which would allow Fascist Germany and Communist Soviet Union to divide up Parts of Europe between them.

But Hitler GOT GREEDY....
Scary to think had he kept his agreement what could have happened.

 

[Correll]

The ONE tactic they have to try to create the illusion that they matter, to those who might be potential recruits,

is to gloam onto something or someone who does matter, to steal some of it or their legitimacy.


Thus you see nazis talking nice about a man with Jews in his family.

They are working with the liberal media.

Both of them have interests that coincide.


BOth of them want to create the illusion of a far larger and more powerful neo nazi movement.

Both of them want to creat an illusion of a connection between the sad pathetic fringe and the vastly larger and powerful republican/conservative/trump movement(s).




You liberals are the only ally these guys have, and if anyone or anything can ever grow them into a real force.


it is you.

Only you can do it.

What utter nonsense. No one on the left is responsible for the KKK endorsing Trump for president.

I went on to explain the motive that the lib media gives the neo nazis to make such "endorsements".


Do you want to explain your disagreement with that, or were you hoping that your unsupported empty statement would be the end of the discussion?

You made no point. All you did was assert they work together while offering zero corroborating evidence.

I gave their motives and as to evidence?


It is all over the place, including YOUR posting of a kkk paper, not only giving it exposure to everyone on this site, but supporting the myth that they are relevant, and conflating them with everyone who voted for Trump.

Dumbfuck, the KKK openly endorsing and supporting Trump was news and the news, left, center, and right, covered it as they should have.

How much coverage did the endorsement of Obama by the Communist Party get? I think I heard ONE reference to it on Fox, and that was it.

Did you see it over and over again, and was Obama questioned about it by the media over and over again?